Who's the Winner?

#1

Guess we'll have to see what the specific rules will be (yeah Nascar with
"specific detailed" rules!)
but the general idea is no passing after the yellow comes out. Seems like
the idea is to freeze
the field at the time the caution comes out. So here's a question or two:

1) Car A takes the white flag with a 5 second lead, but blows a tire and
hits the wall. Caution
comes out, 2nd place car (B) has not passed Car A. Who's the winner? I'm
guessing somehow it
will be B based on car A not making it back to the line.

2) Same situation, but car A only spins, still bringing out the caution. Car
B is behind them when
the yellow comes out but momentum takes them passed the spun car A. Who's
the winner? A?

3) Car A, on fresh tires, is rapidly overtaking a slower leader car B in the
final couple of laps. Just as
car A drops to the inside to pass out of turn 2, a car hits the wall. Does
Nascar wait till the pass is complete to throw the yellow (if Car A is a
Nascar Favorite) or throw it quick to preserve the win
for Car B (the Nascar Favorite)? Any chance for controversy here?

Seems to me like this will make the yellow line rule at the plate tracks
seem very cut and dried
and every week someone will feel screwed by this unless they do something
like put the field back
to where they were at the start of the lap the caution came out. At least
that way the exact timing
of the caution and the exact position of the cars won't be an issue (see
Indy 500 a couple of years ago).

Glenn

#2

Nice Can o Worms, just like new pitroad rules would be.
It's time for the Gentlemen Veterans to enforce the Gent's Agreement.
--
Crusader

"Glenn McFarland" <glennmc (AT) ti (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

Guess we'll have to see what the specific rules will be (yeah Nascar with
"specific detailed" rules!)
but the general idea is no passing after the yellow comes out. Seems like
the idea is to freeze
the field at the time the caution comes out. So here's a question or two:

1) Car A takes the white flag with a 5 second lead, but blows a tire and
hits the wall. Caution
comes out, 2nd place car (B) has not passed Car A. Who's the winner? I'm
guessing somehow it
will be B based on car A not making it back to the line.

2) Same situation, but car A only spins, still bringing out the caution. Car
B is behind them when
the yellow comes out but momentum takes them passed the spun car A. Who's
the winner? A?

3) Car A, on fresh tires, is rapidly overtaking a slower leader car B in the
final couple of laps. Just as
car A drops to the inside to pass out of turn 2, a car hits the wall. Does
Nascar wait till the pass is complete to throw the yellow (if Car A is a
Nascar Favorite) or throw it quick to preserve the win
for Car B (the Nascar Favorite)? Any chance for controversy here?

Seems to me like this will make the yellow line rule at the plate tracks
seem very cut and dried
and every week someone will feel screwed by this unless they do something
like put the field back
to where they were at the start of the lap the caution came out. At least
that way the exact timing
of the caution and the exact position of the cars won't be an issue (see
Indy 500 a couple of years ago).

Glenn

#3

all your points are moot because this yellow flag rule does not apply on the
last lap of the race, they race back to the line on the last lap caution or
no caution

"Glenn McFarland" <glennmc (AT) ti (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

Guess we'll have to see what the specific rules will be (yeah Nascar with
"specific detailed" rules!)
but the general idea is no passing after the yellow comes out. Seems like
the idea is to freeze
the field at the time the caution comes out. So here's a question or two:

1) Car A takes the white flag with a 5 second lead, but blows a tire and
hits the wall. Caution
comes out, 2nd place car (B) has not passed Car A. Who's the winner? I'm
guessing somehow it
will be B based on car A not making it back to the line.

2) Same situation, but car A only spins, still bringing out the caution.
Car
B is behind them when
the yellow comes out but momentum takes them passed the spun car A. Who's
the winner? A?

3) Car A, on fresh tires, is rapidly overtaking a slower leader car B in
the
final couple of laps. Just as
car A drops to the inside to pass out of turn 2, a car hits the wall. Does
Nascar wait till the pass is complete to throw the yellow (if Car A is a
Nascar Favorite) or throw it quick to preserve the win
for Car B (the Nascar Favorite)? Any chance for controversy here?

Seems to me like this will make the yellow line rule at the plate tracks
seem very cut and dried
and every week someone will feel screwed by this unless they do something
like put the field back
to where they were at the start of the lap the caution came out. At least
that way the exact timing
of the caution and the exact position of the cars won't be an issue (see
Indy 500 a couple of years ago).

Glenn

#4

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:09:07 GMT, "SG-1" <stargate (AT) sg1 (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

all your points are moot because this yellow flag rule does not apply on the
last lap of the race, they race back to the line on the last lap caution or
no caution

You sure about that? As far as I can tell all racing stops when the
yellow flies.

#5

SG-1 <stargate (AT) sg1 (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

all your points are moot because this yellow flag rule does not apply on
the
last lap of the race, they race back to the line on the last lap caution
or
no caution

That's the way it is in ARCA, but NASCAR has yet to have detailed their
rules. All will be explained soon. Patience.

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