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PaulMofATL
 
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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven his innocence? - 07-24-2009 , 12:46 AM






On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:44:55 -0700 (PDT), Fish
<godwin.dave8 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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because his hair is "too short"...even if that's true it doesn't look
good on him. I seem to recall reading somewhere a hair sample could be
provided simply from the hairs on a razor...

http://jayski.com/cupnews.htm#news-hair
Because he is guilty as hell I am sad to say.

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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven his innocence? - 07-24-2009 , 07:57 AM






Tim Shelton <noemail1543 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in
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As far as hair goes for testing, do labs only need the root end
It depends on how far back you want to go, time-wise. Hair grows
at a fairly constant rate, and "stores" evidence of the chemicals
in your body as it grows, so the value of a hair test is that it's
a record of what you've done since the time the hair was cut.

When they say Mayfield's hair is "too short", it may be that they
mean it's too short to provide a record back to May 9th, or whenever
it was that the first test was given (and thus can't be used to show
that that test was either right or wrong).

John

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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven his innocence? - 07-24-2009 , 09:36 AM



"Fish" <godwin.dave8 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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WELL i am 18, and i live in canada actually, where the drinking age is
19 (which doesn't come until february for me), but canada's unique
drinking laws allow for different drinking ages in different
provinces, so though i live in ontario the drinking age is 19, the
town i live in is less than a 20 min drive to quebec, where the
drinking age is 18 (and the beer is cheaper too). also i don't know
how serious police take underage drinking in the US, or even elsewhere
in Canada, but because of this unique geographic layout, it isn't a
strongly enforced law
LOL....I see... it's really only illegal if you get caught, and if a law
isn't strongly enforced it's okay to break it... hope ethics don't come up
in the interview process...

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Joey Tribiani
 
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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven his innocence? - 07-24-2009 , 09:37 AM



"John McCoy" <igopogo (AT) ix (DOT) netcom.com> wrote

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"Joey Tribiani" <Joey (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in
news:jx6am.14834$qx1.9060 (AT) newsfe04 (DOT) iad:

If you are 18 as you state in your first statement above, you don't
agree with the second statement above, or your third statement
wouldn't even exist... this assuming you are in th US, of course...

He's in Canuckistan. It's ok there (as are a lot of other things
the morality police in the US don't approve of).

John
his reply shows his position well... I wasn't really busting his chops, just
pointing out the overwhelming irony with a tinge of hypocrisy...

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Joey Tribiani
 
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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven his innocence? - 07-24-2009 , 09:41 AM



"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE (AT) windstream (DOT) net> wrote

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"Joey Tribiani" <Joey (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:jx6am.14834$qx1.9060 (AT) newsfe04 (DOT) iad...

"Fish" <godwin.dave8 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:c9486929-9b40-4044-8537-f765e3b020da (AT) g31g2000yqc (DOT) googlegroups.com...

just for the record i am in support of mayfield BUT i recently had to
do my first drug test a couple days ago (i am only 18 remember),

18... a good age... I remember then....kind of...

Bull. No one who was really 18 at one time remembers it. I think...
Well, ok - maybe we remember some of the things of being 18. Like the
free love movement, ban the bra, and some other historic events that made
this country great.

didn't say I remember it crystal clear, maybe that was part of it being a
good age...<G>

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If you are 18 as you state in your first statement above, you don't agree
with the second statement above, or your third statement wouldn't even
exist... this assuming you are in th US, of course... because if you are,
the beer and whiskey that are the only substances you need, indeed *are*
illegal for you to consume... shame on you..



Aren't there still some 18 states left? Maybe not, but I thought there
were.

I don't know with authority, but I think it's 21 country wide..

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Joey Tribiani
 
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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven his innocence? - 07-24-2009 , 09:48 AM



"Fish" <godwin.dave8 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

On Jul 23, 9:22 pm, bobby <speak... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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Fish wrote:
in a highly public legal battle between a billion dollar corporation
and a multi-millionaire "Athlete". for the record, i was clean, tests
only took 24 hours (again not very in-depth i'm assuming), but i have
never used any illegal substances so it was never really a question in
my case :-P beer and whiskey are the only substances i need ;-)

on another note, mayfield seems to be working on a huge sponsorship
deal (he has no team though anymore...) and he sounds quite excited
about ithttp://jayski.com/cupnews.htm#news41aaa

then you are an underage drug user

i thought we already went over this...im not underage in my country
you did, you stated it clearly " i live in ontario the drinking age is
19". Followed by this little tidbit:

Quote:
the
town i live in is less than a 20 min drive to quebec, where the
drinking age is 18 (and the beer is cheaper too).
does this imply that you approve of driving to another province to drink
"legally" then *drive* back to your province where you are now intoxicated
and underage?

Quote:
also i don't know
how serious police take underage drinking in the US, or even elsewhere
in Canada, but because of this unique geographic layout, it isn't a
strongly enforced law
it's not how seriously the police hear, nor there, take the offense, but
goes back to the statement you made in the post that said:
Quote:
(no point in becoming a law enforcer if you break them yourself).
you obviously don't believe that... but I do agree with that statement. But
it seems you only believe it when it pertains to *others*... ironic?

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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven his innocence? - 07-24-2009 , 10:13 AM



"Joey Tribiani" <Joey (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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"Fish" <godwin.dave8 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:a984de5a-916d-417d-9d66-e6bfc257c422 (AT) f10g2000vbf (DOT) googlegroups.com...
On Jul 23, 9:22 pm, bobby <speak... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Fish wrote:
in a highly public legal battle between a billion dollar corporation
and a multi-millionaire "Athlete". for the record, i was clean, tests
only took 24 hours (again not very in-depth i'm assuming), but i have
never used any illegal substances so it was never really a question in
my case :-P beer and whiskey are the only substances i need ;-)

on another note, mayfield seems to be working on a huge sponsorship
deal (he has no team though anymore...) and he sounds quite excited
about ithttp://jayski.com/cupnews.htm#news41aaa

then you are an underage drug user

i thought we already went over this...im not underage in my country

you did, you stated it clearly " i live in ontario the drinking age is
19". Followed by this little tidbit:

the
town i live in is less than a 20 min drive to quebec, where the
drinking age is 18 (and the beer is cheaper too).

does this imply that you approve of driving to another province to drink
"legally" then *drive* back to your province where you are now intoxicated
and underage?
Age limits for alcohol limit the age for consumption. It's perfectly legal
for him to get drunk in Quebec, then return to Ontario.

I would hope that he is accompanied by a designated driver, and not driving
home all liquored up.

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Joey Tribiani
 
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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven his innocence? - 07-24-2009 , 11:53 AM



"armpit" <armarmpitpit (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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Age limits for alcohol limit the age for consumption. It's perfectly
legal
for him to get drunk in Quebec, then return to Ontario.

I would hope that he is accompanied by a designated driver, and not
driving home all liquored up.


I see... I have no knowledge of the laws in the great white north, only
here... and being intoxicated while underage is not "legal". Of course I'm
not in his situation where the next "state" over it is legal, while not
legal where I am...

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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven his innocence? - 07-24-2009 , 12:12 PM



John McCoy wrote:
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Tim Shelton <noemail1543 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in
news:7a6i65dg41teqvf8tg8vdntr73jigoedic (AT) ccr (DOT) org:

As far as hair goes for testing, do labs only need the root end

It depends on how far back you want to go, time-wise. Hair grows
at a fairly constant rate, and "stores" evidence of the chemicals
in your body as it grows, so the value of a hair test is that it's
a record of what you've done since the time the hair was cut.

When they say Mayfield's hair is "too short", it may be that they
mean it's too short to provide a record back to May 9th, or whenever
it was that the first test was given (and thus can't be used to show
that that test was either right or wrong).
Not sure about the rest of you, but my head isn't the only place I have hair growing.
Actually, *my* head is kinda the only place where I *don't* have much hair.
;^)

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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven his innocence? - 07-24-2009 , 01:06 PM



"YooperBoyka" <cjdont (AT) like (DOT) spam> wrote

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John McCoy wrote:
Tim Shelton <noemail1543 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in
news:7a6i65dg41teqvf8tg8vdntr73jigoedic (AT) ccr (DOT) org:

As far as hair goes for testing, do labs only need the root end

It depends on how far back you want to go, time-wise. Hair grows
at a fairly constant rate, and "stores" evidence of the chemicals
in your body as it grows, so the value of a hair test is that it's
a record of what you've done since the time the hair was cut.

When they say Mayfield's hair is "too short", it may be that they
mean it's too short to provide a record back to May 9th, or whenever
it was that the first test was given (and thus can't be used to show
that that test was either right or wrong).

Not sure about the rest of you, but my head isn't the only place I have
hair growing.
Actually, *my* head is kinda the only place where I *don't* have much
hair.
;^)
Funny you should say that. It turns out that body hair is a very reliable
source for drug testing. It can tell a longer story than head hair because
body hair is only replenished on about an annual basis, so the signs remain
for a long time.

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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE (AT) windstream (DOT) net

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