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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven hisinnocence? - 07-24-2009 , 11:21 PM






On Jul 24, 8:44*pm, Tim Shelton <noemail1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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When some people are to drunk to walk they have no choice but to
drive.
keep your day job

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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven hisinnocence? - 07-25-2009 , 12:54 AM






Tim Shelton wrote:
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Perhaps Mayfield is maintaining a clean shaved appearance throughout
for that very reason.
Throughout his entire Nascar career? I don't ever recall JM having hair
any longer than it is now.

I think this was 2002.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQPnLTWZPio

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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven hisinnocence? - 07-25-2009 , 12:56 AM



DAVe wrote:
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On Jul 24, 8:44 pm, Tim Shelton <noemail1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

When some people are to drunk to walk they have no choice but to
drive.

keep your day job
Your assuming that he has a job.

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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven hisinnocence? - 07-25-2009 , 01:33 PM



On Jul 24, 10:13*am, "armpit" <armarmpit... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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"Joey Tribiani" <J... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message

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"Fish" <godwin.da... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Jul 23, 9:22 pm, bobby <speak... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Fish wrote:
in a highly public legal battle between a billion dollar corporation
and a multi-millionaire "Athlete". for the record, i was clean, tests
only took 24 hours (again not very in-depth i'm assuming), but i have
never used any illegal substances so it was never really a question in
my case :-P beer and whiskey are the only substances i need ;-)

on another note, mayfield seems to be working on a huge sponsorship
deal (he has no team though anymore...) and he sounds quite excited
about ithttp://jayski.com/cupnews.htm#news41aaa

then you are an underage drug user

i thought we already went over this...im not underage in my country

you did, you stated it clearly * " *i live in ontario the drinking age is
19". Followed by this little tidbit:

the
town i live in is less than a 20 min drive to quebec, where the
drinking age is 18 (and the beer is cheaper too).

does this imply that you approve of driving to another province to drink
"legally" then *drive* back to your province where you are now intoxicated
and underage?

Age limits for alcohol limit the age for consumption. It's perfectly legal
for him to get drunk in Quebec, then return to Ontario.

I would hope that he is accompanied by a designated driver, and not driving
home all liquored up.
there you go. that is exactly the law's here, first off, one CAN drink
while underage here, just simply cannot purchase it, which is where
the buy in quebec, drink at home comes in. and DDs are always used if
we happen to be out.

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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven hisinnocence? - 07-25-2009 , 01:36 PM



On Jul 24, 7:38*pm, Tim Shelton <noemail1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:06:24 -0400, "Mike Marlow"



mmarlowREM... (AT) windstream (DOT) net> wrote:

"YooperBoyka" <cjd... (AT) like (DOT) spam> wrote in message
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John McCoy wrote:
Tim Shelton <noemail1... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in
news:7a6i65dg41teqvf8tg8vdntr73jigoedic (AT) ccr (DOT) org:

As far as hair goes for testing, do labs only need the root end

It depends on how far back you want to go, time-wise. *Hair grows
at a fairly constant rate, and "stores" evidence of the chemicals
in your body as it grows, so the value of a hair test is that it's
a record of what you've done since the time the hair was cut.

When they say Mayfield's hair is "too short", it may be that they
mean it's too short to provide a record back to May 9th, or whenever
it was that the first test was given (and thus can't be used to show
that that test was either right or wrong).

Not sure about the rest of you, but my head isn't the only place I have
hair growing.
Actually, *my* head is kinda the only place where I *don't* have much
hair.
;^)

Funny you should say that. *It turns out that body hair is a very reliable
source for drug testing. *It can tell a longer story than head hair because
body hair is only replenished on about an annual basis, so the signs remain
for a long time.

Perhaps Mayfield is maintaining a clean shaved appearance throughout
for that very reason.
back to the real issue here. john's reply really enlightened this
situation, i never thought of hair as a timeline. i thought for hair
testing it simply took as many hairs as needed, and the chemicals
would be there, but apparently it seems to be more of a timeline where
the longer the hair is, the further back it would go. my thinking is
though is that meth, being a strong drug would be quite noticeable in
a test, but if may is too far back, surely mayfield's hair is long
enough to go back to july 6th or whenever this second positive came
out since that was only a couple weeks ago

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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven his innocence? - 07-25-2009 , 05:34 PM



"Fish" <godwin.dave8 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote


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there you go. that is exactly the law's here, first off, one CAN drink
while underage here, just simply cannot purchase it, which is where
the buy in quebec, drink at home comes in. and DDs are always used if
we happen to be out.
not according to www.attractionsCanada.com
"Alcohol Consumption: Legal age is 19"

apparently it's not just illegal to purchase, but to consume alcohol at your
age... I suggest you move to Quebec...

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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven hisinnocence? - 07-25-2009 , 08:03 PM



On Jul 25, 5:34*pm, "Joey Tribiani" <J... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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"Fish" <godwin.da... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message

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there you go. that is exactly the law's here, first off, one CAN drink
while underage here, just simply cannot purchase it, which is where
the buy in quebec, drink at home comes in. and DDs are always used if
we happen to be out.

not according towww.attractionsCanada.com
*"Alcohol Consumption: Legal age is 19"

apparently it's not just illegal to purchase, but to consume alcohol at your
age... I suggest you move to Quebec...
geez you're really busting my chops here. well i guess i learned
something, as far as i knew if you were 18, you could drink but not
buy here. i still think you are looking at it from the wrong
perspective, if there are any other canadians in this group they will
probably back me up here, that although i am not 19 and cannot legally
drink in ontario, underage drinking carries far less legal weight in
canada than it does in the states. i studied law the past two years in
high school and you folks are serious about those underage laws, and
actually enforce them from what i hear. i don't know if there's any
other people my age on here from the states but i know if there are
i'm sure they drink, but i'd like to know if anyone has ever been
"caught" for underage drinking, and what happened. I will describe to
you the situation in canada if you are drinking underage, say there's
a house party and cops are called, if parents are there cops will
usually give instructions to the parents as to get things to settle
down, if no parents are there, police will usually give a warning
saying if they have to come back it will be shut down, and will be in
the area making sure no one is driving home drunk. drinking and
driving is a VERY serious crime here, in fact under our learners
permits, you have to have 0% in your system when you drive for the
first year (ie meaning that when you are 17, you can drive with up to
the .08, thus *technically* permitting drinking? though nearly
everyone i know keeps to the 0 rule just to be safe). anyways, though
i know there is punishment for underage drinking in ontario and the
rest of canada, it may be simply due to the geographic positioning of
my town next to quebec, but i have yet to meet anyone to ever get a
ticket, fine, or any other punishment for underage drinking (except
underage DUI, then they throw the book at you, probably in an effort
to break that habit before you become another statistic). I don't know
joey if you are being serious is this bickering going on here, but i
think the differing views we share are probably due to differing
perspectives on the law, ie i'm canadian the law has never been
strongly enforced here, and im also young, you are presumably older
than me and american where the underage laws are quite strict.

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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven hisinnocence? - 07-25-2009 , 08:32 PM



Joey Tribiani wrote:
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"Fish" <godwin.dave8 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:862d9c74-f57d-40b1-8b4e-62ebddc0460c (AT) d32g2000yqh (DOT) googlegroups.com...

there you go. that is exactly the law's here, first off, one CAN drink
while underage here, just simply cannot purchase it, which is where
the buy in quebec, drink at home comes in. and DDs are always used if
we happen to be out.

not according to www.attractionsCanada.com
"Alcohol Consumption: Legal age is 19"

apparently it's not just illegal to purchase, but to consume alcohol at your
age... I suggest you move to Quebec...

I'm sure you never drank until you were the legal age, huh?

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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven his innocence? - 07-25-2009 , 09:19 PM



Fish <godwin.dave8 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in
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but if may is too far back, surely mayfield's hair is long
enough to go back to july 6th or whenever this second positive came
out since that was only a couple weeks ago
Well, as Tim said, you could use a hair from somewhere else. While
it's fairly common for women to be completely shaven, that would be
unusual (and suspicious) for a man. OTOH, it's my understanding
that testing slow growing hairs (i.e. not head or beard) is not as
accurate.

John

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Default Re: why hasn't mayfield simply just plucked a hair and proven his innocence? - 07-25-2009 , 11:11 PM



"Fish" <godwin.dave8 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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I don't know
joey if you are being serious is this bickering going on here,
It's not bickering, and yes I'm serious... seriously fucking with you
because of your statements...basically showing that your opinion(
presumeably ) that you shouldn't break the laws if you are gonna be a cop,
was contradicted in the same post by what you do.. just a bit of irony, that
you may not have noticed, because it's not "bad" to you.... that's all...(
now if you want to be objective, you'd realize that even cops are "people"
and that at times they actually break the traffic laws more than those they
are seeking out... because they *can*, the same reason you do what you do...
hell the same reason we all do what we do...)

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