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Default Re: Why MM has never won a championship - 02-22-2006 , 12:22 AM







"The Hammer" <HammerDrops (AT) bullshit (DOT) stops> wrote

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SimRacer wrote:
Yeah, the loser posting to hear himself thinks I said Ford had won no
titles, which isn't even on the same page as what I was talking
about, which was the total number of Chevy titles versus any other
make over the course of NASCAR's history.

I don't think Ford and Dodge field as many cars as GM does. So, they
should not be expected to have as many wins. Well, and Ford sucks. :-)


Don't bring any logic into the equation, it blows his entire theory ;-)


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Default Re: Why MM has never won a championship - 02-22-2006 , 12:28 AM







Will wrote:
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"The Hammer" <HammerDrops (AT) bullshit (DOT) stops> wrote in message
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SimRacer wrote:
Yeah, the loser posting to hear himself thinks I said Ford had won no
titles, which isn't even on the same page as what I was talking
about, which was the total number of Chevy titles versus any other
make over the course of NASCAR's history.

I don't think Ford and Dodge field as many cars as GM does. So, they
should not be expected to have as many wins. Well, and Ford sucks. :-)



Don't bring any logic into the equation, it blows his entire theory ;-)


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Default Re: Why MM has never won a championship - 02-22-2006 , 01:12 AM



"SimRacer" <nOspaM@simracer68 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in
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During the Daytona 500
this past Sunday, Chevy ran ads about winning like 38 of 48 (or some
similar ratio) of the TOTAL NASCAR Cup titles.

Chevy won a lot of those claimed "titles" when both Ford and Mopar were out
of the equation. Cowards. Who were they running against? Olds? Pontiac?

Irony. GM may be going out of business.


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Default Re: Why MM has never won a championship - 02-22-2006 , 01:19 AM



"mark" <usenet1958 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in
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Well you bring up Neil Bonnett so there is one thing he said after
getting airbourne in the fence at Dega. It was after recovering from
his head injury and the car left the ground and was in the air when it
hit the catch fence. He wasn't hurt, and actually went to the TV booth
to help call the remainder of the race. He actually thought the wreck
might have been his fault till he saw the replay. He said two things
that I never will forget. 1.) "I didn't get scared till it got quiet."
He knew full well even when it was happening the severity of this
wreck and the risk not only to himself, but his fellow competitors and
the fans sitting behind those fences. 2.) "Not a one of them out
there would have done it on purpose." or something to that effect.

If you look back to the pre restrictor plate days, (new fans need to
find some old footage its priceless) the one thing that stands out is
how clean they raced. Bump drafting wasn't needed. They could pass
the leader without it. The less aerodynamic cars were much like the
trucks of today. The banging that did happen was when one car would
push up into the side of another, but rarely did you see bumper to
bumper contact and when you did it was pretty apparent that it wasn't
intentional. The cars were strung out so you didn't see the big packs
that you see now and when there was a spin, it was seldom more than a
1 or 2 car accident. Good thing too with the safety equipment they
had at the time, these packs would have been extremely bad news.

I remember how Bobby looked right after the wreck at Dega that put the
plates on the cars. The look on his face was one of having been a
part of a miracle and it wasn't himself he was concerned about.
Finally, someone who understands what NASCAR was about in those days. Now
you have the shirt changers (wear who's happenin' baby!) and the mocha
drinkers and the 5 different bumper stickers depending on who's hot.


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Default Re: Why MM has never won a championship - 02-22-2006 , 01:20 AM



eddie wilson wrote:
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Isn't it funny that computers are logic-based, and usenet isn't?
No. Funny is "duck walks into a bar" jokes. Usenet just passes time.

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Default Re: Why MM has never won a championship - 02-22-2006 , 01:27 AM



elaich wrote:
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Chevy won a lot of those claimed "titles" when both Ford and Mopar
were out of the equation. Cowards. Who were they running against?
Olds? Pontiac?
The concept used to be that you built the best car you could, and the best
car/driver won. Then NASCAR decided that letting folks drive high quality
cars gave Mopar Hemi an unfair advantage; and so became the start of
minipulation and deciept.


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Irony. GM may be going out of business.
Nah - they won't go out of business. They will get the government to tell
the UAW to go fuck themselves, and they will come out of bankruptcy as a
smaller company that only sells what is profitable to sell. Perhaps after
going bankrupt, Toyota could buy them and only produce the good stuff. And
no, a front wheel drive Monte probably ain't one of the good ones. C6 Z06,
some of the trucks, an SUV or two (instead of almost a dozen kinds), a
full size four door, a two door full size, a mid size, and hybrid or two.
How many companies is GM these days? Caddy, Chev, GMC, Pontiac, Buick,
etc. They could trim back to just Chevy and GMC Truck, close 80% of the
factories; and be profitable again after coming out of bankruptcy. Toyota
is making money, no? How about Daimler - are they making money?

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Default Re: Why MM has never won a championship - 02-22-2006 , 10:51 PM




"The Hammer" <HammerDrops (AT) bullshit (DOT) stops> wrote

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elaich wrote:

Irony. GM may be going out of business.

Nah - they won't go out of business. They will get the government to tell
the UAW to go fuck themselves,
This is the only way that the US auto industry can survive. They must free
themselves from the financial shackles imposed by the UAW.




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Default Re: Why MM has never won a championship - 02-22-2006 , 11:46 PM



On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:01:26 -0500, "Will" <willt65 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>
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He is right though. Restrictor plate "races" are a joke. You don't
win on talent, or moxy. You win by who you can bluff into going with
you around a guy and then stabbing them in the back by hanging them
out to dry.

There are better solutions, but NASCAR doesn't care enough to
implement them. Heck, going to 6-cylinder cars would be better. If
that's still too fast, lower the engine displacement.

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Default Re: Why MM has never won a championship - 02-23-2006 , 01:03 AM




"JK" <no (AT) way (DOT) com> wrote

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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:01:26 -0500, "Will"
willt65 (AT) comcast (DOT) net
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He is right though. Restrictor plate "races" are a joke. You
don't
win on talent, or moxy. You win by who you can bluff into
going with
you around a guy and then stabbing them in the back by hanging
them
out to dry.

There are better solutions, but NASCAR doesn't care enough to
implement them. Heck, going to 6-cylinder cars would be
better. If
that's still too fast, lower the engine displacement.

It doesn't matter how small the engine is, they will still be
bunched up in a pack with their foot to the floor all the way
around the track.

How about give them all a tank of nitrous to use - like the push
to pass in the champ car series. When your tanks empty, tough.
That'd be a helluva last lap dash. Who would be the lucky one to
save his for the G/W/C finish. LOL




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