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Default WILL SHELMERDINE SELL - 02-16-2006 , 06:43 PM






Will Shelmerdine sell his 500 starting spot to Evernham or
someone else?

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Default Re: WILL SHELMERDINE SELL - 02-16-2006 , 08:18 PM







"Wayne Mann" <tpdl (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote

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Will Shelmerdine sell his 500 starting spot to Evernham or
someone else?
what does the lowest 500 place spot pay? $100,000.00 including your Dual
winnings?




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Default Re: WILL SHELMERDINE SELL - 02-16-2006 , 08:22 PM



jerry wrote:
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"Wayne Mann" <tpdl (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Will Shelmerdine sell his 500 starting spot to Evernham or
someone else?

what does the lowest 500 place spot pay? $100,000.00 including your Dual
winnings?
Last year the lowest was $242,388 for 41st place (43rd was B Labonte's
#18 which is in several bonus programs.)



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Default Re: WILL SHELMERDINE SELL - 02-16-2006 , 08:24 PM




"Bill Jonesi" <jonesi (AT) pcmagic (DOT) net> wrote

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jerry wrote:

"Wayne Mann" <tpdl (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Will Shelmerdine sell his 500 starting spot to Evernham or
someone else?

what does the lowest 500 place spot pay? $100,000.00 including your Dual
winnings?

Last year the lowest was $242,388 for 41st place (43rd was B Labonte's
#18 which is in several bonus programs.)

Then that ride would cost at least that this year?




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Default Re: WILL SHELMERDINE SELL - 02-17-2006 , 04:13 AM



jerry wrote:
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"Bill Jonesi" <jonesi (AT) pcmagic (DOT) net> wrote in message
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jerry wrote:

"Wayne Mann" <tpdl (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Will Shelmerdine sell his 500 starting spot to Evernham or
someone else?

what does the lowest 500 place spot pay? $100,000.00 including your Dual
winnings?

Last year the lowest was $242,388 for 41st place (43rd was B Labonte's
#18 which is in several bonus programs.)


Then that ride would cost at least that this year?
My guess is that bidding would start around $250K and they would have to
pick up the sponsor. So probably of the unqualified cars, only the #10
car has the resources and possible performance expectations to consider
it. Mid pack only pays about $290k, so they would probably be doing it
for the points to help break into the critical top 35 by race #6.

BTW If someone made every cup race last year and finished last (didn't
even have to complete one race lap) they would have cleared $2.7mil (and
maybe not worn out a single engine or tire ;-)



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Default Re: WILL SHELMERDINE SELL - 02-17-2006 , 10:05 AM




Bill Jonesi wrote:
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BTW If someone made every cup race last year and finished last (didn't
even have to complete one race lap) they would have cleared $2.7mil (and
maybe not worn out a single engine or tire ;-)
This is only exemplified, by seeing what kind of houses these
"strugglin" drivers live in.
You'd be amazed at the million dollar homes in Lake Norman, Concord,
Kannapolis,
and Mooresville that some of these "strugglin" drivers live in.

It's a damn good living, even if you have subpar equipment and or
racing ability.

Mz JJ



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Default Re: WILL SHELMERDINE SELL - 02-17-2006 , 11:53 AM




"Bill Jonesi" <jonesi (AT) pcmagic (DOT) net> wrote

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jerry wrote:

"Bill Jonesi" <jonesi (AT) pcmagic (DOT) net> wrote in message
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jerry wrote:

"Wayne Mann" <tpdl (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Will Shelmerdine sell his 500 starting spot to Evernham or
someone else?

what does the lowest 500 place spot pay? $100,000.00 including your
Dual
winnings?

Last year the lowest was $242,388 for 41st place (43rd was B Labonte's
#18 which is in several bonus programs.)


Then that ride would cost at least that this year?

My guess is that bidding would start around $250K and they would have to
pick up the sponsor. So probably of the unqualified cars, only the #10
car has the resources and possible performance expectations to consider
it. Mid pack only pays about $290k, so they would probably be doing it
for the points to help break into the critical top 35 by race #6.

BTW If someone made every cup race last year and finished last (didn't
even have to complete one race lap) they would have cleared $2.7mil (and
maybe not worn out a single engine or tire ;-)

from Jayski;
http://www.jayski.com/teams/27.htm

Shelmerdine to sell ride? or pick up a sponsor? #27-Kirk Shelmerdine in his
sixth long-shot try made the field for the Daytona 500. Shelmerdine, 47, was
NASCAR's top crew chief in the 1980s and early 1990s, winning four
championships with Dale Earnhardt. He abruptly left the Richard Childress
team after 1992, went into semi-seclusion, and began pursuing a somewhat
quixotic career as driver. This week, Shelmerdine's #27 entry amounted to a
last chance. "If we didn't make it, I didn't know what I was going to do
next week," he said after the heats. I was going to have to sell a bunch of
stuff. I'd have had to sell the car and a lot of my old Ford stuff from last
year." Basically put him out of business? "Yep," Kirk said. "But I didn't
have much to lose." However it falls right now, Shelmerdine seems to have a
lot to gain. Last place in the 500 pays about $275,000, and the bundle could
go much higher if, say, Valvoline, which was shut out of the race when Scott
Riggs failed to meet criteria, decides to buy Shelmerdine out [Jayski NOTE:
Riggs runs a Dodge, Shelmerdine is a Chevy, have to use the same car].
Shelmerdine smiled his cat smile. "My lawyer's here, they can come talk to
her," he said. "I don't know what we're going to do. The plan was to get
through today in good shape. Now it's time for a new plan."(Speed Channel)
AND Thursday night, as Shelmerdine continued a massive effort to control his
emotions, that #27 Chevrolet looked like a Rolls Royce. Beginning today, it
might as well be. A few decent sponsors, and at least one prominent one
(Valvoline, which bankrolls Scott Riggs' #10 car), might be ready to deal
for a little logo placement in Sunday's big show. "The quarterpanels are
open," said Shelmerdine, who smiled broadly and added, "the price has gone
up."(Daytona Beach News Journal)(2-17-2006)


mike.........




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Default Re: WILL SHELMERDINE SELL - 02-17-2006 , 02:24 PM



On 17 Feb 2006 07:05:11 -0800, mzsweetpea (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:
Bill Jonesi wrote:

BTW If someone made every cup race last year and finished last (didn't
even have to complete one race lap) they would have cleared $2.7mil (and
maybe not worn out a single engine or tire ;-)

This is only exemplified, by seeing what kind of houses these
"strugglin" drivers live in.
You'd be amazed at the million dollar homes in Lake Norman, Concord,
Kannapolis,
and Mooresville that some of these "strugglin" drivers live in.

It's a damn good living, even if you have subpar equipment and or
racing ability.

Mz JJ
Hamlin just signed with Gibbs foe $1.5 Million a year, or as
Joe Gibb's said, for $10.0 Million dollars. How can a rookie sign for
that much? He has already bought a $3,0 Million dollar Jet plane!


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Default Re: WILL SHELMERDINE SELL - 02-17-2006 , 02:27 PM



On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 16:53:15 GMT, "JerseyMike"
<clamdigger724 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
"Bill Jonesi" <jonesi (AT) pcmagic (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:43F593D7.4B84 (AT) pcmagic (DOT) net...
jerry wrote:

"Bill Jonesi" <jonesi (AT) pcmagic (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:43F52565.3517 (AT) pcmagic (DOT) net...
jerry wrote:

"Wayne Mann" <tpdl (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Will Shelmerdine sell his 500 starting spot to Evernham or
someone else?

what does the lowest 500 place spot pay? $100,000.00 including your
Dual
winnings?

Last year the lowest was $242,388 for 41st place (43rd was B Labonte's
#18 which is in several bonus programs.)


Then that ride would cost at least that this year?

My guess is that bidding would start around $250K and they would have to
pick up the sponsor. So probably of the unqualified cars, only the #10
car has the resources and possible performance expectations to consider
it. Mid pack only pays about $290k, so they would probably be doing it
for the points to help break into the critical top 35 by race #6.

BTW If someone made every cup race last year and finished last (didn't
even have to complete one race lap) they would have cleared $2.7mil (and
maybe not worn out a single engine or tire ;-)


from Jayski;
http://www.jayski.com/teams/27.htm

Shelmerdine to sell ride? or pick up a sponsor? #27-Kirk Shelmerdine in his
sixth long-shot try made the field for the Daytona 500. Shelmerdine, 47, was
NASCAR's top crew chief in the 1980s and early 1990s, winning four
championships with Dale Earnhardt. He abruptly left the Richard Childress
team after 1992, went into semi-seclusion, and began pursuing a somewhat
quixotic career as driver. This week, Shelmerdine's #27 entry amounted to a
last chance. "If we didn't make it, I didn't know what I was going to do
next week," he said after the heats. I was going to have to sell a bunch of
stuff. I'd have had to sell the car and a lot of my old Ford stuff from last
year." Basically put him out of business? "Yep," Kirk said. "But I didn't
have much to lose." However it falls right now, Shelmerdine seems to have a
lot to gain. Last place in the 500 pays about $275,000, and the bundle could
go much higher if, say, Valvoline, which was shut out of the race when Scott
Riggs failed to meet criteria, decides to buy Shelmerdine out [Jayski NOTE:
Riggs runs a Dodge, Shelmerdine is a Chevy, have to use the same car].
Shelmerdine smiled his cat smile. "My lawyer's here, they can come talk to
her," he said. "I don't know what we're going to do. The plan was to get
through today in good shape. Now it's time for a new plan."(Speed Channel)
AND Thursday night, as Shelmerdine continued a massive effort to control his
emotions, that #27 Chevrolet looked like a Rolls Royce. Beginning today, it
might as well be. A few decent sponsors, and at least one prominent one
(Valvoline, which bankrolls Scott Riggs' #10 car), might be ready to deal
for a little logo placement in Sunday's big show. "The quarterpanels are
open," said Shelmerdine, who smiled broadly and added, "the price has gone
up."(Daytona Beach News Journal)(2-17-2006)


mike.........

Valvoline did not buy it, at least yet, and it's getting too
late now.


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Default Re: WILL SHELMERDINE SELL - 02-17-2006 , 03:03 PM




"Wayne Mann" <tpdl (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote


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Hamlin just signed with Gibbs foe $1.5 Million a year, or as
Joe Gibb's said, for $10.0 Million dollars. How can a rookie sign for
that much? He has already bought a $3,0 Million dollar Jet plane!
You buy a jet plane, and then immediately lease it to an aircraft operating
company. They supply maintenance and personnel, and sublease the plane out
while you aren't using it. Are you jealous?

Carey in Manvel




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