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Default Transmission Saver - 03-15-2005 , 04:28 PM






I have seen quite a few posts on Nissan trans problems. Well here’s a
tip (Sequential steps) to help you prevent future problems.

How many of you don’t use your parking brake, including 5sp manual?
Have you ever put your car in park on a hill and found the gearshift
hard to pull or heard a loud popping noise when you did get it in
gear?

Okay, here’s my sequential steps (I’ve had over ten cars and never
lost a trans)

1. If this is your 1st time getting in the car set the parking brake.
Start the car then move the shifter to neutral. Your parking brake
should hold the vehicle and keep it from rolling if on a slope. If
your parking brake doesn’t hold, guess what?

2. For automatics ONLY, put the gearshift in park. Turn off the
engine. If you set the parking brake first, before putting the
gearshift in park the weight of the vehicle will be supported by your
brakes and NOT your transmission.

3. For sticks, leave gearshift in neutral and the parking brake set,
turn off the engine. The more times you put 2000 plus pounds of weight
on your gears and clutch pressure plate, the faster you’ll wear them
out.

I’m sure for some this may be learning to do something new, but it’s
not that hard. This is simple and can save you a lot of trans
headaches, especially if your vehicle is relatively new.

For some this may be advise too late in coming, but I hope it helps
someone out there.

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Default Re: Transmission Saver - 03-15-2005 , 05:49 PM







SETITOFF wrote:

<snip>
Quote:
3. For sticks, leave gearshift in neutral and the parking brake set,
turn off the engine. The more times you put 2000 plus pounds of weight
on your gears and clutch pressure plate, the faster you’ll wear them
out.

snip more

You mean there are people out there who use the engine compression to
hold the car still while parked? Surely the car gently crawls down the
slope as the engine leaks compressin past the valves or rings?

Nowt so queer as folks.

Andy


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Default Re: Transmission Saver - 03-16-2005 , 02:31 AM



in article 42376656$0$10951$cc9e4d1f (AT) news-text (DOT) dial.pipex.com, Andy Champ at
no.way (AT) nospam (DOT) com wrote on 3/15/05 2:49 PM:

Quote:
SETITOFF wrote:

snip

3. For sticks, leave gearshift in neutral and the parking brake set,
turn off the engine. The more times you put 2000 plus pounds of weight
on your gears and clutch pressure plate, the faster you¹ll wear them
out.

snip more

You mean there are people out there who use the engine compression to
hold the car still while parked? Surely the car gently crawls down the
slope as the engine leaks compressin past the valves or rings?
Yeah, that's why I put change in the next meter downhill from where I park,
too!

-jeff



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Default Re: Transmission Saver - 03-16-2005 , 07:23 AM



Putting the parking brake on will not "save" or make you automatic tranny
last longer.


When an automatic is put in park the transmission uses a mechanical method
to lock the input shaft.

It is called the parking pawl, the parking pawl gear is a square toothed
gear located just before the final drive gear set (on a FWD car),and a
mechanically actuated arm that comes down into one of the recesses in the
parking gear, the reason the car may roll a few inches when putting it into
park is because the arm has hit a high spot on the gear and needs to advance
a bit before locking.

also the reason the trans is hard to get into gear while parked on a hill is
because the parking system has pressure on it because it is holding the
car's weight.



"SETITOFF" <UseLinkToEmail (AT) AutoForumz (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I have seen quite a few posts on Nissan trans problems. Well here's a
tip (Sequential steps) to help you prevent future problems.

How many of you don't use your parking brake, including 5sp manual?
Have you ever put your car in park on a hill and found the gearshift
hard to pull or heard a loud popping noise when you did get it in
gear?

Okay, here's my sequential steps (I've had over ten cars and never
lost a trans)

1. If this is your 1st time getting in the car set the parking brake.
Start the car then move the shifter to neutral. Your parking brake
should hold the vehicle and keep it from rolling if on a slope. If
your parking brake doesn't hold, guess what?

2. For automatics ONLY, put the gearshift in park. Turn off the
engine. If you set the parking brake first, before putting the
gearshift in park the weight of the vehicle will be supported by your
brakes and NOT your transmission.

3. For sticks, leave gearshift in neutral and the parking brake set,
turn off the engine. The more times you put 2000 plus pounds of weight
on your gears and clutch pressure plate, the faster you'll wear them
out.

I'm sure for some this may be learning to do something new, but it's
not that hard. This is simple and can save you a lot of trans
headaches, especially if your vehicle is relatively new.

For some this may be advise too late in coming, but I hope it helps
someone out there.

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Default Re: Re: Transmission Saver - 03-16-2005 , 11:31 AM



"Jeff Olsen" wrote:
Quote:
in article 42376656$0$10951$cc9e4d1f (AT) news-text (DOT) dial.pipex.com,
Andy Champ at
no.way (AT) nospam (DOT) com wrote on 3/15/05 2:49 PM:


SETITOFF wrote:

&lt;snip
&nbsp;
&nbsp;>> 3. For sticks, leave gearshift in neutral and the
parking brake set,
&nbsp;>> turn off the engine. The more times you put 2000 plus
pounds of weight
&nbsp;>> on your gears and clutch pressure plate, the faster
you¹ll wear them
&nbsp;>> out.
&nbsp;
&lt;snip more

You mean there are people out there who use the engine
compression to
hold the car still while parked? Surely the car gently
crawls down the
slope as the engine leaks compressin past the valves or
rings?

Yeah, that's why I put change in the next meter downhill from
where I park,
too!

-jeff
You got me on that one...I had 1 too many Hennesseys when I wrote that


Bottom line, don’t use your trans to hold the weight of your car, use
your parking brake.

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Default Re: Re: Transmission Saver - 03-23-2005 , 01:10 PM



"NissTech2" wrote:
Quote:
Putting the parking brake on will not "save" or make you
automatic tranny
last longer.


When an automatic is put in park the transmission uses a
mechanical method
to lock the input shaft.

It is called the parking pawl, the parking pawl gear is a
square toothed
gear located just before the final drive gear set (on a FWD
car),and a
mechanically actuated arm that comes down into one of the
recesses in the
parking gear, the reason the car may roll a few inches when
putting it into
park is because the arm has hit a high spot on the gear and
needs to advance
a bit before locking.

also the reason the trans is hard to get into gear while
parked on a hill is
because the parking system has pressure on it because it is
holding the
car's weight.



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I have seen quite a few posts on Nissan trans problems. Well
here's a
tip (Sequential steps) to help you prevent future problems.

How many of you don't use your parking brake, including 5sp
manual?
Have you ever put your car in park on a hill and found the
gearshift
hard to pull or heard a loud popping noise when you did get
it in
gear?

Okay, here's my sequential steps (I've had over ten cars and
never
lost a trans)

1. If this is your 1st time getting in the car set the
parking brake.
Start the car then move the shifter to neutral. Your parking
brake
should hold the vehicle and keep it from rolling if on a
slope. If
your parking brake doesn't hold, guess what?

2. For automatics ONLY, put the gearshift in park. Turn off
the
engine. If you set the parking brake first, before putting
the
gearshift in park the weight of the vehicle will be
supported by your
brakes and NOT your transmission.

3. For sticks, leave gearshift in neutral and the parking
brake set,
turn off the engine. The more times you put 2000 plus pounds
of weight
on your gears and clutch pressure plate, the faster you'll
wear them
out.

I'm sure for some this may be learning to do something new,
but it's
not that hard. This is simple and can save you a lot of
trans
headaches, especially if your vehicle is relatively new.

For some this may be advise too late in coming, but I hope
it helps
someone out there.

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If you think my suggestion is a waste of space then never mind, but if
you think it has some validity, start practicing it.

If I have put something out that keeps a mechanic from making some
money, so be it. They’ll always be able to make a paycheck one way or
the other.


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Default Re: Transmission Saver - 03-26-2005 , 04:10 AM




"SETITOFF" <UseLinkToEmail (AT) AutoForumz (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I have seen quite a few posts on Nissan trans problems. Well here's a
tip (Sequential steps) to help you prevent future problems.

How many of you don't use your parking brake, including 5sp manual?
Have you ever put your car in park on a hill and found the gearshift
hard to pull or heard a loud popping noise when you did get it in
gear?

Okay, here's my sequential steps (I've had over ten cars and never
lost a trans)

1. If this is your 1st time getting in the car set the parking brake.
Start the car then move the shifter to neutral. Your parking brake
should hold the vehicle and keep it from rolling if on a slope. If
your parking brake doesn't hold, guess what?

2. For automatics ONLY, put the gearshift in park. Turn off the
engine. If you set the parking brake first, before putting the
gearshift in park the weight of the vehicle will be supported by your
brakes and NOT your transmission.

3. For sticks, leave gearshift in neutral and the parking brake set,
turn off the engine. The more times you put 2000 plus pounds of weight
on your gears and clutch pressure plate, the faster you'll wear them
out.

I'm sure for some this may be learning to do something new, but it's
not that hard. This is simple and can save you a lot of trans
headaches, especially if your vehicle is relatively new.

For some this may be advise too late in coming, but I hope it helps
someone out there.

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This alone won't prevent all transmission problems but I'm sure it helps. I
do, however have a few points to mention. Letting the brake or the
transmission alone hold the vehicle is a bad idea. I've had a 5-speed creep
on me and had a Ford automatic pop out of park and cross a busy street
backwards. Use them both but set the brake first. The exception is in
freezing weather. It is not uncommon to have a parking brake freeze in Ohio.

Chris




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Default Re: Transmission Saver - 03-27-2005 , 03:23 PM



"Chris" <cjohnson1379nospam (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote

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"SETITOFF" <UseLinkToEmail (AT) AutoForumz (DOT) com> wrote in message
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I have seen quite a few posts on Nissan trans problems. Well here's a
tip (Sequential steps) to help you prevent future problems.

How many of you don't use your parking brake, including 5sp manual?
Have you ever put your car in park on a hill and found the gearshift
hard to pull or heard a loud popping noise when you did get it in
gear?

Okay, here's my sequential steps (I've had over ten cars and never
lost a trans)

1. If this is your 1st time getting in the car set the parking brake.
Start the car then move the shifter to neutral. Your parking brake
should hold the vehicle and keep it from rolling if on a slope. If
your parking brake doesn't hold, guess what?

2. For automatics ONLY, put the gearshift in park. Turn off the
engine. If you set the parking brake first, before putting the
gearshift in park the weight of the vehicle will be supported by your
brakes and NOT your transmission.

3. For sticks, leave gearshift in neutral and the parking brake set,
turn off the engine. The more times you put 2000 plus pounds of weight
on your gears and clutch pressure plate, the faster you'll wear them
out.

I'm sure for some this may be learning to do something new, but it's
not that hard. This is simple and can save you a lot of trans
headaches, especially if your vehicle is relatively new.

For some this may be advise too late in coming, but I hope it helps
someone out there.

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This alone won't prevent all transmission problems but I'm sure it helps.
I do, however have a few points to mention. Letting the brake or the
transmission alone hold the vehicle is a bad idea. I've had a 5-speed
creep on me and had a Ford automatic pop out of park and cross a busy
street backwards. Use them both but set the brake first. The exception is
in freezing weather. It is not uncommon to have a parking brake freeze in
Ohio.

Chris
I can't believe that you're having a conversation about whether or not to
use a parking brake!
That's what it is there for, "parking". I know some of you call it an
"emergency brake", but FFS, try stopping in a hurry by using it?
When you park, use it. Simple. Whether you car has MT or AT, what harm can
it do? (unless you live in Ohio :-))

Greg.




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Default Re: Transmission Saver - 03-28-2005 , 05:45 PM



Greg wrote:
Quote:
I can't believe that you're having a conversation about whether or not to
use a parking brake!
That's what it is there for, "parking". I know some of you call it an
"emergency brake", but FFS, try stopping in a hurry by using it?
When you park, use it. Simple. Whether you car has MT or AT, what harm can
it do? (unless you live in Ohio :-))

Greg.


Not just Ohio. I had a handbrake (as we call it) freeze on me in
England once. The old-style Mini has a cable operated handbrake, and
the cables are underneath the rear swinging arms - just where all the
slush splashes.

That's once, and I've been driving over 25 years!

Andy


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Default Re: Transmission Saver - 05-17-2005 , 12:02 PM



I have been using the parking brake on every car, van or SUV I had in the
last 40 years every time every season and living in the north east.



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