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Default Acceleration Problems / Terrible Gas Mileage!!! PLZ Help - 05-09-2007 , 12:35 PM






Ok, here is the situation. I recently purchased an '00 maxima for a
very good deal, has 200,000 KM no check engine light, clean inside and
out, beautiful Glacier Pearl paint job...

Symptoms of the unknown problem are:
1) 8 KM / L (roughly 19 MPG)
2) 0-60MPH in 9 Secs. (Way below the average 7.5 secs. that I see
others get)
3) Between 2500 and 3500 RPM I feel a drag when flooring it. (Like
something is holding the car back)

I recently got a highmileage oil change. Did a 4 step emissions
cleaning (which includes seafoaming), did not help at all.

Is this a MAF issue?? I've been reading that airflow and dirty sensors
are the culprit of most gas mileage and acceleration problems, but
others with the same problem did not notice a change. I took a look at
my MAF and it looked clean to me.

What else could I do to diagnose the problem?
I would really appreciate any suggestions or advice.

Thanks!!!!!!!


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Default Re: Acceleration Problems / Terrible Gas Mileage!!! PLZ Help - 05-09-2007 , 01:12 PM






On May 9, 1:35 pm, assad.ja... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
Quote:
Ok, here is the situation. I recently purchased an '00 maxima for a
very good deal, has 200,000 KM no check engine light, clean inside and
out, beautiful Glacier Pearl paint job...

Symptoms of the unknown problem are:
1) 8 KM / L (roughly 19 MPG)
2) 0-60MPH in 9 Secs. (Way below the average 7.5 secs. that I see
others get)
3) Between 2500 and 3500 RPM I feel a drag when flooring it. (Like
something is holding the car back)

I recently got a highmileage oil change. Did a 4 step emissions
cleaning (which includes seafoaming), did not help at all.

Is this a MAF issue?? I've been reading that airflow and dirty sensors
are the culprit of most gas mileage and acceleration problems, but
others with the same problem did not notice a change. I took a look at
my MAF and it looked clean to me.

What else could I do to diagnose the problem?
I would really appreciate any suggestions or advice.

Thanks!!!!!!!
It's either your O2 sensors or the knock sensor. Change the 02's first
and see what happens. Change only the 02 sensors in the exhaust
manifold, there should be 2, 1 for each cylinder bank, not the other
ones.

CD




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Default Re: Acceleration Problems / Terrible Gas Mileage!!! PLZ Help - 05-09-2007 , 05:58 PM



On May 9, 12:35 pm, assad.ja... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
Quote:
Ok, here is the situation. I recently purchased an '00 maxima for a
very good deal, has 200,000 KM no check engine light, clean inside and
out, beautiful Glacier Pearl paint job...

Symptoms of the unknown problem are:
1) 8 KM / L (roughly 19 MPG)
2) 0-60MPH in 9 Secs. (Way below the average 7.5 secs. that I see
others get)
3) Between 2500 and 3500 RPM I feel a drag when flooring it. (Like
something is holding the car back)

I recently got a highmileage oil change. Did a 4 step emissions
cleaning (which includes seafoaming), did not help at all.

Is this a MAF issue?? I've been reading that airflow and dirty sensors
are the culprit of most gas mileage and acceleration problems, but
others with the same problem did not notice a change. I took a look at
my MAF and it looked clean to me.

What else could I do to diagnose the problem?
I would really appreciate any suggestions or advice.

Thanks!!!!!!!

Agree, symptoms say it's an 02 or knock sensor. When my knock sensor
went bad, acceleration was in 10-11 second territory. 19 mpg not
really bad, though, just not that great.

Or maybe you have a spouse or g.f. putting in regular unleaded,
instead of premium !



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Default Re: Acceleration Problems / Terrible Gas Mileage!!! PLZ Help - 05-17-2007 , 10:50 AM



Hi,
Knock sensor..most likely...my mileage improved dramatically when I changed
mine, 19 MPG to 28 MPG......but I have ALLOT more miles on mine......
O2 sensor will throw a code and you will get a check engine lamp, knock
sensor will NOT throw a code, so I suspect your knock sensor before an O2
sensor...there was a guy selling Nissan branded (new in the nissan parts
box) knock sensors on ebay a while back, don't know if they are still
listed.... that is where I got mine for about 1/2 the cost of the Stealers
(dealers) price
Good luck,
2Maximas

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On May 9, 12:35 pm, assad.ja... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
Ok, here is the situation. I recently purchased an '00 maxima for a
very good deal, has 200,000 KM no check engine light, clean inside and
out, beautiful Glacier Pearl paint job...

Symptoms of the unknown problem are:
1) 8 KM / L (roughly 19 MPG)
2) 0-60MPH in 9 Secs. (Way below the average 7.5 secs. that I see
others get)
3) Between 2500 and 3500 RPM I feel a drag when flooring it. (Like
something is holding the car back)

I recently got a highmileage oil change. Did a 4 step emissions
cleaning (which includes seafoaming), did not help at all.

Is this a MAF issue?? I've been reading that airflow and dirty sensors
are the culprit of most gas mileage and acceleration problems, but
others with the same problem did not notice a change. I took a look at
my MAF and it looked clean to me.

What else could I do to diagnose the problem?
I would really appreciate any suggestions or advice.

Thanks!!!!!!!


Agree, symptoms say it's an 02 or knock sensor. When my knock sensor
went bad, acceleration was in 10-11 second territory. 19 mpg not
really bad, though, just not that great.

Or maybe you have a spouse or g.f. putting in regular unleaded,
instead of premium !




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Default Re: Acceleration Problems / Terrible Gas Mileage!!! PLZ Help - 05-17-2007 , 09:06 PM



"Bitsbucket" <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Hi,
Knock sensor..most likely...my mileage improved dramatically when I changed
mine, 19 MPG to 28 MPG......but I have ALLOT more miles on mine......
O2 sensor will throw a code and you will get a check engine lamp, knock
sensor will NOT throw a code, so I suspect your knock sensor before an O2
sensor...there was a guy selling Nissan branded (new in the nissan parts
box) knock sensors on ebay a while back, don't know if they are still
listed.... that is where I got mine for about 1/2 the cost of the Stealers
(dealers) price
Good luck,
2Maximas

jmattis (AT) attglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:1178751539.296817.229240 (AT) p77g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com...
On May 9, 12:35 pm, assad.ja... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
Ok, here is the situation. I recently purchased an '00 maxima for a
very good deal, has 200,000 KM no check engine light, clean inside and
out, beautiful Glacier Pearl paint job...

Symptoms of the unknown problem are:
1) 8 KM / L (roughly 19 MPG)
2) 0-60MPH in 9 Secs. (Way below the average 7.5 secs. that I see
others get)
3) Between 2500 and 3500 RPM I feel a drag when flooring it. (Like
something is holding the car back)

I recently got a highmileage oil change. Did a 4 step emissions
cleaning (which includes seafoaming), did not help at all.

Is this a MAF issue?? I've been reading that airflow and dirty sensors
are the culprit of most gas mileage and acceleration problems, but
others with the same problem did not notice a change. I took a look at
my MAF and it looked clean to me.

What else could I do to diagnose the problem?
I would really appreciate any suggestions or advice.

Thanks!!!!!!!


Agree, symptoms say it's an 02 or knock sensor. When my knock sensor
went bad, acceleration was in 10-11 second territory. 19 mpg not
really bad, though, just not that great.

Or maybe you have a spouse or g.f. putting in regular unleaded,
instead of premium !



19 to 18 mpg is normal in town,,,with maybe 26 at a constant 60 mph

You got 28,,,doing what,,falling off a cliff,,????

not possible,,,


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Default Re: Acceleration Problems / Terrible Gas Mileage!!! PLZ Help - 05-18-2007 , 06:56 PM



<common_ sense (AT) netscape (DOT) com> wrote

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"Bitsbucket" <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote:

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19 to 18 mpg is normal in town,,,with maybe 26 at a constant 60 mph

You got 28,,,doing what,,falling off a cliff,,????

not possible,,,
I have a 2000 Nissan Maxima SE, automatic transmission, sunroof, with
130,000 miles.

Just finished a 4894 mile, 2 week trip. from MN to Washington, DC, to
Virginia to
Florida to Mississippi to Arkansas to MN. This included lots of road
miles, but
also included a lot of city driving as I drove around the many cities I was
going thru.

My average gas mileage was - 28.16 mpg. I always used High Octane
gas.

Speed was about 5-7 miles over posted speed limit, sometime more at night.
I used cruise control a lot, and had the A/C on.
With 2 people in car, back seat half full, trunk completely full ( included
cooler with drinks, ice, snacks, etc ).





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Default Re: Acceleration Problems / Terrible Gas Mileage!!! PLZ Help - 05-19-2007 , 06:25 PM



On May 18, 7:56 pm, "Bob" <not_val... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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common_ s... (AT) netscape (DOT) com> wrote in message

news:464d09a1.11009390 (AT) news (DOT) west.cox.net...> "Bitsbucket" <n... (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote:

.......... many, many lines deleted.



19 to 18 mpg is normal in town,,,with maybe 26 at a constant 60 mph

You got 28,,,doing what,,falling off a cliff,,????

not possible,,,

I have a 2000 Nissan Maxima SE, automatic transmission, sunroof, with
130,000 miles.

Just finished a 4894 mile, 2 week trip. from MN to Washington, DC, to
Virginia to
Florida to Mississippi to Arkansas to MN. This included lots of road
miles, but
also included a lot of city driving as I drove around the many cities I was
going thru.

My average gas mileage was - 28.16 mpg. I always used High Octane
gas.

Speed was about 5-7 miles over posted speed limit, sometime more at night.
I used cruise control a lot, and had the A/C on.
With 2 people in car, back seat half full, trunk completely full ( included
cooler with drinks, ice, snacks, etc ).
Exactly. 28 mpg is entriely do-able in the 3.0. Maybe he's confusing
the 2002 and later Maximas which have the 3.5.

CD



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Default Re: Acceleration Problems / Terrible Gas Mileage!!! PLZ Help - 05-19-2007 , 08:17 PM



For lo, codifus <codifus (AT) optonline (DOT) net> hath proclaimed:
Quote:
Exactly. 28 mpg is entriely do-able in the 3.0. Maybe he's confusing
the 2002 and later Maximas which have the 3.5.
I have a 2000 Infiniti I30 with the same 3.0 and 96,000 miles; I
get 21-22 mpg in town and 27-28 on the highway, pretty
consistently. (Worst tank ever was 18.5, during a period
highlighted by two ice storms.)


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Default Re: Acceleration Problems / Terrible Gas Mileage!!! PLZ Help - 05-20-2007 , 09:34 PM



codifus <codifus (AT) optonline (DOT) net> wrote:

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On May 18, 7:56 pm, "Bob" <not_val... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
common_ s... (AT) netscape (DOT) com> wrote in message

news:464d09a1.11009390 (AT) news (DOT) west.cox.net...> "Bitsbucket" <n... (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote:

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19 to 18 mpg is normal in town,,,with maybe 26 at a constant 60 mph

You got 28,,,doing what,,falling off a cliff,,????

not possible,,,

I have a 2000 Nissan Maxima SE, automatic transmission, sunroof, with
130,000 miles.

Just finished a 4894 mile, 2 week trip. from MN to Washington, DC, to
Virginia to
Florida to Mississippi to Arkansas to MN. This included lots of road
miles, but
also included a lot of city driving as I drove around the many cities I was
going thru.

My average gas mileage was - 28.16 mpg. I always used High Octane
gas.

Speed was about 5-7 miles over posted speed limit, sometime more at night.
I used cruise control a lot, and had the A/C on.
With 2 people in car, back seat half full, trunk completely full ( included
cooler with drinks, ice, snacks, etc ).

Exactly. 28 mpg is entriely do-able in the 3.0. Maybe he's confusing
the 2002 and later Maximas which have the 3.5.

CD

at a constant 55mph under ideal conditions yes,,

but as an "average", for a car with an EPA rating of 19 city/27
highway - not possible.

Sounds like Bob must have missed figuring in a fill up or two during
his trip.




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Default Re: Acceleration Problems / Terrible Gas Mileage!!! PLZ Help - 05-20-2007 , 09:37 PM



Charles G. Hill <chaz (AT) dustbury (DOT) com> wrote:

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For lo, codifus <codifus (AT) optonline (DOT) net> hath proclaimed:
Exactly. 28 mpg is entriely do-able in the 3.0. Maybe he's confusing
the 2002 and later Maximas which have the 3.5.

I have a 2000 Infiniti I30 with the same 3.0 and 96,000 miles; I
get 21-22 mpg in town and 27-28 on the highway, pretty
consistently. (Worst tank ever was 18.5, during a period
highlighted by two ice storms.)
just about the same as I get with my 2000 max SE,,

28 "average" though is not possible.


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