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Re: Hesitation on start with 2001 Maxima -
09-05-2006
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Your check engine code will be back - in 3 engine cycles or so. Like I tried to tell "you know who" the psuedo mechanic. Glad you didnt make things worse by following his idiotic 'shade tree mechanic" advise. Your problem is most likely not a dirty anything - its most likely the MAF, or a bad fuel injector. Of course 'you know who" is going to tell you to spray more gum out on it,,LOL i am going to risk being flamed (god bless that ignore function,,LOL), and tell you you need to go to a Dealer. i am in Az to,,use Midway, though less than impressed lately with them. Friend of mine goes to one in Peoria - has been very happy with them. Would be glad to ask him and send you the info. No its not going to be cheap - but you will get your car fixed, and fixed the first time. Sorry, hate me for the truth if you want, these are complex/expensive cars to fix. Oh and BTW - i own a 2000 Maxima,,,what does "you know who own"....a 67 dodge dart,,??..LOL Of course he is going to call me an idiot for telling you the truth,,, Hey so be it..LOL Gives me a chuckle everytime I think about it,,LOL Hope you get your car fixed,,, "davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com" <davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: I cleaned out the throttle body on Saturday (it was pretty dirty and definitely needed it) and cleared the code, but it still has the hesitation problem on the first start in the morning and the check engine light came back on today. The code is P0171 (System Too Lean (Bank 1)). Does anyone have any ideas on what the problem might be? Thanks, Dave Codifus wrote: davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: I bought the car about 2 1/2 years ago and I've never had it done. Where can I get it done or is it something that I could do myself? Thanks, Dave Codifus wrote: davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: Whenever I start my 2001 Maxima in the morning it has extreme hesitation for about 10 seconds and then seems to run normally. The service engine light also came on recently and it is P0171 (System Too Lean (Bank 1)). I tried putting in a bottle of fuel cleaner, but it doesn't seem to have helped. I live in Arizona and so it's not that the engine is just too cold or anything, so does anyone have any ideas on what the problem could be? Thanks, Dave When's the last time you had your throttle body cleaned? CD You can easily do it yourself. Remove the air filter, the air filter box and the tubing that goes to the engine. Once you've reached this cylindrical metal part with a butterfly valve in it, that's the throttle body. To verify, have someone push the accelerator pedal, you will see the butterfly valve move. The TB is probably black with all carbon deposits gunk from years of use. No biggie. Get some throttle body cleaner (NOT CARBEURATOR CLEANER) and spray and wipe profusely, clearing out all the gunk until you see shiny metal. If you really really want to do a good job of cleaning it, you can take apart the throttle body to clean the back end of it as well, but it isn't absolutely necessary. When I did this on my 98 Maxima, and I only did the front part of the TB, my cold start idle jumped from 1200 rpms to 2000. Also, my lower rpms drivability was much improved. I did my TB cleaning after 140K miles of use which was a loooong time  CD |
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Is there someway that I can check if it's either a bad fuel injector or a bad MAF sensor? Thanks, Dave AZV14 (AT) netscape (DOT) com wrote: Your check engine code will be back - in 3 engine cycles or so. Like I tried to tell "you know who" the psuedo mechanic. Glad you didnt make things worse by following his idiotic 'shade tree mechanic" advise. Your problem is most likely not a dirty anything - its most likely the MAF, or a bad fuel injector. Of course 'you know who" is going to tell you to spray more gum out on it,,LOL i am going to risk being flamed (god bless that ignore function,,LOL), and tell you you need to go to a Dealer. i am in Az to,,use Midway, though less than impressed lately with them. Friend of mine goes to one in Peoria - has been very happy with them. Would be glad to ask him and send you the info. No its not going to be cheap - but you will get your car fixed, and fixed the first time. Sorry, hate me for the truth if you want, these are complex/expensive cars to fix. Oh and BTW - i own a 2000 Maxima,,,what does "you know who own"....a 67 dodge dart,,??..LOL Of course he is going to call me an idiot for telling you the truth,,, Hey so be it..LOL Gives me a chuckle everytime I think about it,,LOL Hope you get your car fixed,,, "davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com" <davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: I cleaned out the throttle body on Saturday (it was pretty dirty and definitely needed it) and cleared the code, but it still has the hesitation problem on the first start in the morning and the check engine light came back on today. The code is P0171 (System Too Lean (Bank 1)). Does anyone have any ideas on what the problem might be? Thanks, Dave Codifus wrote: davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: I bought the car about 2 1/2 years ago and I've never had it done. Where can I get it done or is it something that I could do myself? Thanks, Dave Codifus wrote: davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: Whenever I start my 2001 Maxima in the morning it has extreme hesitation for about 10 seconds and then seems to run normally. The service engine light also came on recently and it is P0171 (System Too Lean (Bank 1)). I tried putting in a bottle of fuel cleaner, but it doesn't seem to have helped. I live in Arizona and so it's not that the engine is just too cold or anything, so does anyone have any ideas on what the problem could be? Thanks, Dave When's the last time you had your throttle body cleaned? CD You can easily do it yourself. Remove the air filter, the air filter box and the tubing that goes to the engine. Once you've reached this cylindrical metal part with a butterfly valve in it, that's the throttle body. To verify, have someone push the accelerator pedal, you will see the butterfly valve move. The TB is probably black with all carbon deposits gunk from years of use. No biggie. Get some throttle body cleaner (NOT CARBEURATOR CLEANER) and spray and wipe profusely, clearing out all the gunk until you see shiny metal. If you really really want to do a good job of cleaning it, you can take apart the throttle body to clean the back end of it as well, but it isn't absolutely necessary. When I did this on my 98 Maxima, and I only did the front part of the TB, my cold start idle jumped from 1200 rpms to 2000. Also, my lower rpms drivability was much improved. I did my TB cleaning after 140K miles of use which was a loooong time CD |
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Is there someway that I can check if it's either a bad fuel injector or a bad MAF sensor? Thanks, Dave AZV14 (AT) netscape (DOT) com wrote: Your check engine code will be back - in 3 engine cycles or so. Like I tried to tell "you know who" the psuedo mechanic. Glad you didnt make things worse by following his idiotic 'shade tree mechanic" advise. Your problem is most likely not a dirty anything - its most likely the MAF, or a bad fuel injector. Of course 'you know who" is going to tell you to spray more gum out on it,,LOL i am going to risk being flamed (god bless that ignore function,,LOL), and tell you you need to go to a Dealer. i am in Az to,,use Midway, though less than impressed lately with them. Friend of mine goes to one in Peoria - has been very happy with them. Would be glad to ask him and send you the info. No its not going to be cheap - but you will get your car fixed, and fixed the first time. Sorry, hate me for the truth if you want, these are complex/expensive cars to fix. Oh and BTW - i own a 2000 Maxima,,,what does "you know who own"....a 67 dodge dart,,??..LOL Of course he is going to call me an idiot for telling you the truth,,, Hey so be it..LOL Gives me a chuckle everytime I think about it,,LOL Hope you get your car fixed,,, "davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com" <davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: I cleaned out the throttle body on Saturday (it was pretty dirty and definitely needed it) and cleared the code, but it still has the hesitation problem on the first start in the morning and the check engine light came back on today. The code is P0171 (System Too Lean (Bank 1)). Does anyone have any ideas on what the problem might be? Thanks, Dave Codifus wrote: davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: I bought the car about 2 1/2 years ago and I've never had it done. Where can I get it done or is it something that I could do myself? Thanks, Dave Codifus wrote: davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: Whenever I start my 2001 Maxima in the morning it has extreme hesitation for about 10 seconds and then seems to run normally. The service engine light also came on recently and it is P0171 (System Too Lean (Bank 1)). I tried putting in a bottle of fuel cleaner, but it doesn't seem to have helped. I live in Arizona and so it's not that the engine is just too cold or anything, so does anyone have any ideas on what the problem could be? Thanks, Dave When's the last time you had your throttle body cleaned? CD You can easily do it yourself. Remove the air filter, the air filter box and the tubing that goes to the engine. Once you've reached this cylindrical metal part with a butterfly valve in it, that's the throttle body. To verify, have someone push the accelerator pedal, you will see the butterfly valve move. The TB is probably black with all carbon deposits gunk from years of use. No biggie. Get some throttle body cleaner (NOT CARBEURATOR CLEANER) and spray and wipe profusely, clearing out all the gunk until you see shiny metal. If you really really want to do a good job of cleaning it, you can take apart the throttle body to clean the back end of it as well, but it isn't absolutely necessary. When I did this on my 98 Maxima, and I only did the front part of the TB, my cold start idle jumped from 1200 rpms to 2000. Also, my lower rpms drivability was much improved. I did my TB cleaning after 140K miles of use which was a loooong time CD |
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If it turns out that the MAF is bad and you are up to installing it yourself, look here to get one. If the dates on this one fit your cars production date, it's $109 at this site but the dealership will try to sell one for over $400. http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchan... e=22680-VQ30D =============================== Is there someway that I can check if it's either a bad fuel injector or a bad MAF sensor? Thanks, Dave AZV14 (AT) netscape (DOT) com wrote: Your check engine code will be back - in 3 engine cycles or so. Like I tried to tell "you know who" the psuedo mechanic. Glad you didnt make things worse by following his idiotic 'shade tree mechanic" advise. Your problem is most likely not a dirty anything - its most likely the MAF, or a bad fuel injector. Of course 'you know who" is going to tell you to spray more gum out on it,,LOL i am going to risk being flamed (god bless that ignore function,,LOL), and tell you you need to go to a Dealer. i am in Az to,,use Midway, though less than impressed lately with them. Friend of mine goes to one in Peoria - has been very happy with them. Would be glad to ask him and send you the info. No its not going to be cheap - but you will get your car fixed, and fixed the first time. Sorry, hate me for the truth if you want, these are complex/expensive cars to fix. Oh and BTW - i own a 2000 Maxima,,,what does "you know who own"....a 67 dodge dart,,??..LOL Of course he is going to call me an idiot for telling you the truth,,, Hey so be it..LOL Gives me a chuckle everytime I think about it,,LOL Hope you get your car fixed,,, "davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com" <davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: I cleaned out the throttle body on Saturday (it was pretty dirty and definitely needed it) and cleared the code, but it still has the hesitation problem on the first start in the morning and the check engine light came back on today. The code is P0171 (System Too Lean (Bank 1)). Does anyone have any ideas on what the problem might be? Thanks, Dave Codifus wrote: davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: I bought the car about 2 1/2 years ago and I've never had it done. Where can I get it done or is it something that I could do myself? Thanks, Dave Codifus wrote: davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: Whenever I start my 2001 Maxima in the morning it has extreme hesitation for about 10 seconds and then seems to run normally. The service engine light also came on recently and it is P0171 (System Too Lean (Bank 1)). I tried putting in a bottle of fuel cleaner, but it doesn't seem to have helped. I live in Arizona and so it's not that the engine is just too cold or anything, so does anyone have any ideas on what the problem could be? Thanks, Dave When's the last time you had your throttle body cleaned? CD You can easily do it yourself. Remove the air filter, the air filter box and the tubing that goes to the engine. Once you've reached this cylindrical metal part with a butterfly valve in it, that's the throttle body. To verify, have someone push the accelerator pedal, you will see the butterfly valve move. The TB is probably black with all carbon deposits gunk from years of use. No biggie. Get some throttle body cleaner (NOT CARBEURATOR CLEANER) and spray and wipe profusely, clearing out all the gunk until you see shiny metal. If you really really want to do a good job of cleaning it, you can take apart the throttle body to clean the back end of it as well, but it isn't absolutely necessary. When I did this on my 98 Maxima, and I only did the front part of the TB, my cold start idle jumped from 1200 rpms to 2000. Also, my lower rpms drivability was much improved. I did my TB cleaning after 140K miles of use which was a loooong time CD |
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Thats good input, but one word of caution. Get the nissan service bulletin/proceedure first. Replacement of the MAF may also require an update to the ECU. I know this to be true for replacing the 02 sensors. Chuck In Dallas <goldmax60 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: If it turns out that the MAF is bad and you are up to installing it yourself, look here to get one. If the dates on this one fit your cars production date, it's $109 at this site but the dealership will try to sell one for over $400. http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchan... e=22680-VQ30D =============================== Is there someway that I can check if it's either a bad fuel injector or a bad MAF sensor? Thanks, Dave AZV14 (AT) netscape (DOT) com wrote: Your check engine code will be back - in 3 engine cycles or so. Like I tried to tell "you know who" the psuedo mechanic. Glad you didnt make things worse by following his idiotic 'shade tree mechanic" advise. Your problem is most likely not a dirty anything - its most likely the MAF, or a bad fuel injector. Of course 'you know who" is going to tell you to spray more gum out on it,,LOL i am going to risk being flamed (god bless that ignore function,,LOL), and tell you you need to go to a Dealer. i am in Az to,,use Midway, though less than impressed lately with them. Friend of mine goes to one in Peoria - has been very happy with them. Would be glad to ask him and send you the info. No its not going to be cheap - but you will get your car fixed, and fixed the first time. Sorry, hate me for the truth if you want, these are complex/expensive cars to fix. Oh and BTW - i own a 2000 Maxima,,,what does "you know who own"....a 67 dodge dart,,??..LOL Of course he is going to call me an idiot for telling you the truth,,, Hey so be it..LOL Gives me a chuckle everytime I think about it,,LOL Hope you get your car fixed,,, "davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com" <davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: I cleaned out the throttle body on Saturday (it was pretty dirty and definitely needed it) and cleared the code, but it still has the hesitation problem on the first start in the morning and the check engine light came back on today. The code is P0171 (System Too Lean (Bank 1)). Does anyone have any ideas on what the problem might be? Thanks, Dave Codifus wrote: davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: I bought the car about 2 1/2 years ago and I've never had it done. Where can I get it done or is it something that I could do myself? Thanks, Dave Codifus wrote: davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: Whenever I start my 2001 Maxima in the morning it has extreme hesitation for about 10 seconds and then seems to run normally. The service engine light also came on recently and it is P0171 (System Too Lean (Bank 1)). I tried putting in a bottle of fuel cleaner, but it doesn't seem to have helped. I live in Arizona and so it's not that the engine is just too cold or anything, so does anyone have any ideas on what the problem could be? Thanks, Dave When's the last time you had your throttle body cleaned? CD You can easily do it yourself. Remove the air filter, the air filter box and the tubing that goes to the engine. Once you've reached this cylindrical metal part with a butterfly valve in it, that's the throttle body. To verify, have someone push the accelerator pedal, you will see the butterfly valve move. The TB is probably black with all carbon deposits gunk from years of use. No biggie. Get some throttle body cleaner (NOT CARBEURATOR CLEANER) and spray and wipe profusely, clearing out all the gunk until you see shiny metal. If you really really want to do a good job of cleaning it, you can take apart the throttle body to clean the back end of it as well, but it isn't absolutely necessary. When I did this on my 98 Maxima, and I only did the front part of the TB, my cold start idle jumped from 1200 rpms to 2000. Also, my lower rpms drivability was much improved. I did my TB cleaning after 140K miles of use which was a loooong time CD |
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This is probably a dumb question, but what do you mean by "Get the nissan service bulletin/proceedure first"? Dave AZV14 (AT) netscape (DOT) com wrote: Thats good input, but one word of caution. Get the nissan service bulletin/proceedure first. Replacement of the MAF may also require an update to the ECU. I know this to be true for replacing the 02 sensors. Chuck In Dallas <goldmax60 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: If it turns out that the MAF is bad and you are up to installing it yourself, look here to get one. If the dates on this one fit your cars production date, it's $109 at this site but the dealership will try to sell one for over $400. http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchan... e=22680-VQ30D =============================== Is there someway that I can check if it's either a bad fuel injector or a bad MAF sensor? Thanks, Dave AZV14 (AT) netscape (DOT) com wrote: Your check engine code will be back - in 3 engine cycles or so. Like I tried to tell "you know who" the psuedo mechanic. Glad you didnt make things worse by following his idiotic 'shade tree mechanic" advise. Your problem is most likely not a dirty anything - its most likely the MAF, or a bad fuel injector. Of course 'you know who" is going to tell you to spray more gum out on it,,LOL i am going to risk being flamed (god bless that ignore function,,LOL), and tell you you need to go to a Dealer. i am in Az to,,use Midway, though less than impressed lately with them. Friend of mine goes to one in Peoria - has been very happy with them. Would be glad to ask him and send you the info. No its not going to be cheap - but you will get your car fixed, and fixed the first time. Sorry, hate me for the truth if you want, these are complex/expensive cars to fix. Oh and BTW - i own a 2000 Maxima,,,what does "you know who own"....a 67 dodge dart,,??..LOL Of course he is going to call me an idiot for telling you the truth,,, Hey so be it..LOL Gives me a chuckle everytime I think about it,,LOL Hope you get your car fixed,,, "davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com" <davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: I cleaned out the throttle body on Saturday (it was pretty dirty and definitely needed it) and cleared the code, but it still has the hesitation problem on the first start in the morning and the check engine light came back on today. The code is P0171 (System Too Lean (Bank 1)). Does anyone have any ideas on what the problem might be? Thanks, Dave Codifus wrote: davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: I bought the car about 2 1/2 years ago and I've never had it done. Where can I get it done or is it something that I could do myself? Thanks, Dave Codifus wrote: davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: Whenever I start my 2001 Maxima in the morning it has extreme hesitation for about 10 seconds and then seems to run normally. The service engine light also came on recently and it is P0171 (System Too Lean (Bank 1)). I tried putting in a bottle of fuel cleaner, but it doesn't seem to have helped. I live in Arizona and so it's not that the engine is just too cold or anything, so does anyone have any ideas on what the problem could be? Thanks, Dave When's the last time you had your throttle body cleaned? CD You can easily do it yourself. Remove the air filter, the air filter box and the tubing that goes to the engine. Once you've reached this cylindrical metal part with a butterfly valve in it, that's the throttle body. To verify, have someone push the accelerator pedal, you will see the butterfly valve move. The TB is probably black with all carbon deposits gunk from years of use. No biggie. Get some throttle body cleaner (NOT CARBEURATOR CLEANER) and spray and wipe profusely, clearing out all the gunk until you see shiny metal. If you really really want to do a good job of cleaning it, you can take apart the throttle body to clean the back end of it as well, but it isn't absolutely necessary. When I did this on my 98 Maxima, and I only did the front part of the TB, my cold start idle jumped from 1200 rpms to 2000. Also, my lower rpms drivability was much improved. I did my TB cleaning after 140K miles of use which was a loooong time CD |
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If it turns out that the MAF is bad and you are up to installing it yourself, look here to get one. If the dates on this one fit your cars production date, it's $109 at this site but the dealership will try to sell one for over $400. http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchan... e=22680-VQ30D =============================== Is there someway that I can check if it's either a bad fuel injector or a bad MAF sensor? Thanks, Dave AZV14 (AT) netscape (DOT) com wrote: Your check engine code will be back - in 3 engine cycles or so. Like I tried to tell "you know who" the psuedo mechanic. Glad you didnt make things worse by following his idiotic 'shade tree mechanic" advise. Your problem is most likely not a dirty anything - its most likely the MAF, or a bad fuel injector. Of course 'you know who" is going to tell you to spray more gum out on it,,LOL i am going to risk being flamed (god bless that ignore function,,LOL), and tell you you need to go to a Dealer. i am in Az to,,use Midway, though less than impressed lately with them. Friend of mine goes to one in Peoria - has been very happy with them. Would be glad to ask him and send you the info. No its not going to be cheap - but you will get your car fixed, and fixed the first time. Sorry, hate me for the truth if you want, these are complex/expensive cars to fix. Oh and BTW - i own a 2000 Maxima,,,what does "you know who own"....a 67 dodge dart,,??..LOL Of course he is going to call me an idiot for telling you the truth,,, Hey so be it..LOL Gives me a chuckle everytime I think about it,,LOL Hope you get your car fixed,,, "davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com" <davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: I cleaned out the throttle body on Saturday (it was pretty dirty and definitely needed it) and cleared the code, but it still has the hesitation problem on the first start in the morning and the check engine light came back on today. The code is P0171 (System Too Lean (Bank 1)). Does anyone have any ideas on what the problem might be? Thanks, Dave Codifus wrote: davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: I bought the car about 2 1/2 years ago and I've never had it done. Where can I get it done or is it something that I could do myself? Thanks, Dave Codifus wrote: davejohansen (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: Whenever I start my 2001 Maxima in the morning it has extreme hesitation for about 10 seconds and then seems to run normally. The service engine light also came on recently and it is P0171 (System Too Lean (Bank 1)). I tried putting in a bottle of fuel cleaner, but it doesn't seem to have helped. I live in Arizona and so it's not that the engine is just too cold or anything, so does anyone have any ideas on what the problem could be? Thanks, Dave When's the last time you had your throttle body cleaned? CD You can easily do it yourself. Remove the air filter, the air filter box and the tubing that goes to the engine. Once you've reached this cylindrical metal part with a butterfly valve in it, that's the throttle body. To verify, have someone push the accelerator pedal, you will see the butterfly valve move. The TB is probably black with all carbon deposits gunk from years of use. No biggie. Get some throttle body cleaner (NOT CARBEURATOR CLEANER) and spray and wipe profusely, clearing out all the gunk until you see shiny metal. If you really really want to do a good job of cleaning it, you can take apart the throttle body to clean the back end of it as well, but it isn't absolutely necessary. When I did this on my 98 Maxima, and I only did the front part of the TB, my cold start idle jumped from 1200 rpms to 2000. Also, my lower rpms drivability was much improved. I did my TB cleaning after 140K miles of use which was a loooong time CD |
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