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Default Maxima 2000: can new muffler cut MPG by 3-4?? - 01-02-2008 , 11:20 AM






A couple months ago, my 2000 Maxima with 68,000 miles start making
terrible clunking noises from the muffler area.

My head wasn't on straight that day and I took it over to Meineke. A pipe
was rusted out and hanging...they said even though the original stainless
steel muffler was fine, they had to replace the muffler to replace the
connecting pipe. I said "fine".

I know...dumb move in hindsight and I wish I would have taken it elsewhere.

Well the Meineke muffler was $220 or something like that and looks/works
fine.

However I swear I get 3-4 MPG less than I used to. Possible? I also got
the MAF sensor replaced in the same time period...



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Default Re: Maxima 2000: can new muffler cut MPG by 3-4?? - 01-02-2008 , 11:35 AM






On Jan 2, 12:20*pm, pgg <papaNO_SP_AMgordygra... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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A couple months ago, my 2000 Maxima with 68,000 miles start making
terrible clunking noises from the muffler area.

My head wasn't on straight that day and I took it over to Meineke. *A pipe
was rusted out and hanging...they said even though the original stainless
steel muffler was fine, they had to replace the muffler to replace the
connecting pipe. *I said "fine".

I know...dumb move in hindsight and I wish I would have taken it elsewhere..

Well the Meineke muffler was $220 or something like that and looks/works
fine.

However I swear I get 3-4 MPG less than I used to. *Possible? *I also got
the MAF sensor replaced in the same time period...
The muffler should have little/nothing to do with fuel economy. The
MAF however can have a major impact. Look to the MAF if you see
statistically significant change in mpg.


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Default Re: Maxima 2000: can new muffler cut MPG by 3-4?? - 01-02-2008 , 07:03 PM



"dgeesaman (AT) gmail (DOT) com" <dgeesaman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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On Jan 2, 12:20*pm, pgg <papaNO_SP_AMgordygra... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
A couple months ago, my 2000 Maxima with 68,000 miles start making
terrible clunking noises from the muffler area.

My head wasn't on straight that day and I took it over to Meineke. *A pipe
was rusted out and hanging...they said even though the original stainless
steel muffler was fine, they had to replace the muffler to replace the
connecting pipe. *I said "fine".

I know...dumb move in hindsight and I wish I would have taken it elsewhere.

Well the Meineke muffler was $220 or something like that and looks/works
fine.

However I swear I get 3-4 MPG less than I used to. *Possible? *I also got
the MAF sensor replaced in the same time period...

The muffler should have little/nothing to do with fuel economy. The
MAF however can have a major impact. Look to the MAF if you see
statistically significant change in mpg.
Not possible.

Also the Maxima has an all St Stl exhaust system - you should be
contacting your local BBB if Mienake replaced something "rusted". A
bracket may have broken/corroded, but not a pipe in the exhaust sytem.


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Default Re: Maxima 2000: can new muffler cut MPG by 3-4?? - 01-02-2008 , 07:21 PM




Quote:
Not possible.

Also the Maxima has an all St Stl exhaust system - you should be
contacting your local BBB if Mienake replaced something "rusted". A
bracket may have broken/corroded, but not a pipe in the exhaust sytem.
A bracket was indeed broken/corroded. He made the claim that the broken
bracket somehow caused the pipe to be unusable.

At the time I was stressed about other things in my life and didn't think.

This was a couple months ago...I doubt I can go back and get any
compensation. I spent ~ 330 for the new muffler and service work




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Default Re: Maxima 2000: can new muffler cut MPG by 3-4?? - 01-02-2008 , 07:22 PM




Quote:
Not possible.

Also what is not possible? The MAF affecting MPG or the exhaust affecting
MPG?




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Default Re: Maxima 2000: can new muffler cut MPG by 3-4?? - 01-02-2008 , 10:01 PM




<dgeesaman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

On Jan 2, 12:20 pm, pgg <papaNO_SP_AMgordygra... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
A couple months ago, my 2000 Maxima with 68,000 miles start making
terrible clunking noises from the muffler area.

My head wasn't on straight that day and I took it over to Meineke. A pipe
was rusted out and hanging...they said even though the original stainless
steel muffler was fine, they had to replace the muffler to replace the
connecting pipe. I said "fine".

I know...dumb move in hindsight and I wish I would have taken it
elsewhere.

Well the Meineke muffler was $220 or something like that and looks/works
fine.

However I swear I get 3-4 MPG less than I used to. Possible? I also got
the MAF sensor replaced in the same time period...
The muffler should have little/nothing to do with fuel economy. The
MAF however can have a major impact. Look to the MAF if you see
statistically significant change in mpg.

What/where is a maf sensor?

I own a 95 max that has poor fuel economy.
Did reg. tune up




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Default Re: Maxima 2000: can new muffler cut MPG by 3-4?? - 01-03-2008 , 12:51 AM



A muffler with the wrong size (capacity) or wrong diameter pipe will
affect more than fuel consumption, can even lead to engine overheating,
poor performance, etc.

Remember that for some engine conditions require back pressure in the
exhaust pipe and others require free flow.

pgg wrote:

Quote:
A couple months ago, my 2000 Maxima with 68,000 miles start making
terrible clunking noises from the muffler area.

My head wasn't on straight that day and I took it over to Meineke. A pipe
was rusted out and hanging...they said even though the original stainless
steel muffler was fine, they had to replace the muffler to replace the
connecting pipe. I said "fine".

I know...dumb move in hindsight and I wish I would have taken it elsewhere.

Well the Meineke muffler was $220 or something like that and looks/works
fine.

However I swear I get 3-4 MPG less than I used to. Possible? I also got
the MAF sensor replaced in the same time period...



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Default Re: Maxima 2000: can new muffler cut MPG by 3-4?? - 01-03-2008 , 11:46 AM



You do bring up a point I had thought about and disregarded.

An overly restrictive muffler or some other clog could definitely
reduce power. But you will feel the loss in power, probably well
before you see a change in fuel economy. The OP described loss in
fuel economy only.

As for too little restriction, these cars don't have issues (aside
from emissions legality and sound level) when running straight pipe
exhausts. I believe the too little restriction thing is largely a
myth, in fact.

Dave

On Jan 3, 1:51*am, AS <do... (AT) spame (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
A muffler with the wrong size (capacity) or wrong diameter pipe will
affect more than fuel consumption, can even lead to engine overheating,
poor performance, etc.

Remember that for some engine conditions require back pressure in the
exhaust pipe and others require free flow.



pgg wrote:
A couple months ago, my 2000 Maxima with 68,000 miles start making
terrible clunking noises from the muffler area.

My head wasn't on straight that day and I took it over to Meineke. *A pipe
was rusted out and hanging...they said even though the original stainless
steel muffler was fine, they had to replace the muffler to replace the
connecting pipe. *I said "fine".

I know...dumb move in hindsight and I wish I would have taken it elsewhere.

Well the Meineke muffler was $220 or something like that and looks/works
fine.

However I swear I get 3-4 MPG less than I used to. *Possible? *I also got
the MAF sensor replaced in the same time period...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


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Default Re: Maxima 2000: can new muffler cut MPG by 3-4?? - 01-03-2008 , 01:08 PM



There are systems that actually control the flow of gases in the muffler
to get the needed backpressure for some operating conditions. Not in
the 2000 Maxima, that i know of.


dgeesaman (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
Quote:
You do bring up a point I had thought about and disregarded.

An overly restrictive muffler or some other clog could definitely
reduce power. But you will feel the loss in power, probably well
before you see a change in fuel economy. The OP described loss in
fuel economy only.

As for too little restriction, these cars don't have issues (aside
from emissions legality and sound level) when running straight pipe
exhausts. I believe the too little restriction thing is largely a
myth, in fact.

Dave

On Jan 3, 1:51 am, AS <do... (AT) spame (DOT) com> wrote:

A muffler with the wrong size (capacity) or wrong diameter pipe will
affect more than fuel consumption, can even lead to engine overheating,
poor performance, etc.

Remember that for some engine conditions require back pressure in the
exhaust pipe and others require free flow.



pgg wrote:

A couple months ago, my 2000 Maxima with 68,000 miles start making
terrible clunking noises from the muffler area.

My head wasn't on straight that day and I took it over to Meineke. A pipe
was rusted out and hanging...they said even though the original stainless
steel muffler was fine, they had to replace the muffler to replace the
connecting pipe. I said "fine".

I know...dumb move in hindsight and I wish I would have taken it elsewhere.

Well the Meineke muffler was $220 or something like that and looks/works
fine.

However I swear I get 3-4 MPG less than I used to. Possible? I also got
the MAF sensor replaced in the same time period...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



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Default Re: Maxima 2000: can new muffler cut MPG by 3-4?? - 01-03-2008 , 06:14 PM



No One <noone (AT) home (DOT) now> wrote:

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pgg wrote:



Not possible.


Also what is not possible? The MAF affecting MPG or the exhaust
affecting MPG?

You are replying to the class clown. His dad owns a Nissan dealership
and he figures that gives him a clue.

Some good info here: http://forums.maxima.org/

Must be a sad life - just sitting around stalking an obscure news
group - making none sense posts.


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