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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 08-03-2006 , 01:33 PM







"astro" <atkron95 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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1 ) pump 89,
2) go inside and buy some octane boost additive.
3) drive off

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Well around my crime infested cowtown getting away from you'r Auto or Truck
just to pump gas puts you in harms way. Going inside the store really lays
you open to attack. I don't wish to have to draw my XD-45 and waste some
attacking jerk. But I sure would do it in a heartbeat if I felt threatened.
I just get some injecter cleaner from a local Wally World and keep looking
over my shoulder and hope for the best with what ever gas I can find.




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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 08-03-2006 , 05:16 PM






Then it should say in the manual, "Use Premium Gas"but it does NOT!


"Rich" <rich (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote

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"Whatchamacallit" <whatever (AT) what (DOT) ca> wrote in message
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Take the car back and have it tuned properly. If the manual says regular
it should run on regular.
None of this bullshit.

It is "tuned" to run on premium.

If you don't care about your engine's performance, why the hell would you
buy a Maxima? Really, I'm dying to know, because nobody who bitches about
using premium in this car has ever been able to answer that question.




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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 08-03-2006 , 06:21 PM



"Whatchamacallit" <whatever (AT) what (DOT) ca> wrote

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Then it should say in the manual, "Use Premium Gas"but it does NOT!
If your tires are bald at 30k, but the treadwear designation says 40k, are
you going to put yourself/family at risk and drive it that last 10k because
"that's what the manual says", or swap them out? Use some common sense,
man. The reason his/yours/whoever's engine pings on regular gas is because
you're driving the car with a lead foot (which is why you presumably chose a
Maxima). If you drive it like an old lady, I'm sure 87 octane is fine.

This whole discussion reminds me of the people who complain because their
gas mileage doesn't match what's on the sticker. These same people use
entrance ramps like they're qualifying for NASCAR and then set the cruise at
85(mph).

The premium gas/Maxima discussion is a pet peeve of mine. It's like someone
buying a BMW and complaining about the harsh ride. The gas complainers and
the ride complainers need to be driving Buicks, and staying the hell away
from sport sedans.

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"Whatchamacallit" <whatever (AT) what (DOT) ca> wrote in message
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Take the car back and have it tuned properly. If the manual says regular
it should run on regular.
None of this bullshit.

It is "tuned" to run on premium.

If you don't care about your engine's performance, why the hell would you
buy a Maxima? Really, I'm dying to know, because nobody who bitches
about using premium in this car has ever been able to answer that
question.






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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 08-03-2006 , 07:29 PM



Rich wrote:
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"Shines" <shinespamnot (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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I was in a station today and they had only 87 in all pumps. Since I was
driving my Kia Sorento it was not a problem. But what will I do about my
98 Maxse when gas is needed?


One tank of 87 won't kill the car. I just wouldn't do more than a couple a
year, and NEVER consecutively. Try to use octane booster as well, and also
try not to do it on an empty tank.


I owned a 2004 Maxima for almost 2 years and always use 87 octane.
Never had a problem. I did try 89 once to see if it made any gas
mileage or performance difference, it did not. So if it runs on 87
without pinging, use 87.


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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 08-03-2006 , 10:40 PM



more than often,,,the reg you buy is actually premium,,,

it only cost a few cents a gallon to make the reg stock feed into
premium,,at the tank farm.

often, its not worth the cost to send 2 shipments, or use a divided
truck, to the station, or they have extra premium that they didnt
sell.

That said,,the octane rating is a guaranteed "minimum"....

and if you blow up your maximas engine, due to pre ignition, because
your to dam cheap, after paying 30 grand for a car, to use
premium,,,then you deserve what idiots deserved.

Carroll Boardway <mcboard (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:

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Rich wrote:
"Shines" <shinespamnot (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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I was in a station today and they had only 87 in all pumps. Since I was
driving my Kia Sorento it was not a problem. But what will I do about my
98 Maxse when gas is needed?


One tank of 87 won't kill the car. I just wouldn't do more than a couple a
year, and NEVER consecutively. Try to use octane booster as well, and also
try not to do it on an empty tank.


I owned a 2004 Maxima for almost 2 years and always use 87 octane.
Never had a problem. I did try 89 once to see if it made any gas
mileage or performance difference, it did not. So if it runs on 87
without pinging, use 87.


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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 08-03-2006 , 10:42 PM



you are very hard of hearing,,,,

No One <noone (AT) home (DOT) now> wrote:

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Rich wrote:

The reason his/yours/whoever's
engine pings on regular gas is because you're driving the car with
a lead foot (which is why you presumably chose a Maxima). If you
drive it like an old lady, I'm sure 87 octane is fine.

As I have said, I drive my Maxima fairly hard and it uses 87 with NO
ping...EVER.


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JimV
 
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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 08-03-2006 , 10:56 PM



Carroll Boardway wrote:
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Rich wrote:
"Shines" <shinespamnot (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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I was in a station today and they had only 87 in all pumps. Since I
was driving my Kia Sorento it was not a problem. But what will I do
about my 98 Maxse when gas is needed?


One tank of 87 won't kill the car. I just wouldn't do more than a
couple a year, and NEVER consecutively. Try to use octane booster as
well, and also try not to do it on an empty tank.

I owned a 2004 Maxima for almost 2 years and always use 87 octane. Never
had a problem. I did try 89 once to see if it made any gas mileage or
performance difference, it did not. So if it runs on 87 without
pinging, use 87.
You probably never pushed it hard enough to tell the difference. Running
on 87 will cause the timing to retard, especially in hot weather.


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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 08-03-2006 , 11:04 PM




"No One" <noone (AT) home (DOT) now> wrote

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Rich wrote:

"Shines" <shinespamnot (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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I was in a station today and they had only 87 in all pumps. Since
I was driving my Kia Sorento it was not a problem. But what will
I do about my 98 Maxse when gas is needed?

One tank of 87 won't kill the car. I just wouldn't do more than a
couple a year, and NEVER consecutively. Try to use octane booster
as well, and also try not to do it on an empty tank.

Garbage. I have burned plenty of 87 in my 2005 and it NEVER pings. I
have tried a comparison of regular and premium on several long trips.
The car does perform better as well as gets a bit better gas mileage
with premium. The thing is, the cost per mile is about the same. I get
more miles with premuim but it costs more. Actually, it sometimes cost
quite a bit more as I tend to step on it more when it has premium in it
and the mileage goes way down.


Modern cars shouldn't ping, because the knock sensor and electronics will
adjust the ignition timing. I've used both premium and regular in my Max
and I can't tell the difference. Maybe it makes a few tenths of a second
difference in 0-60 or 1/4 mile times, but who gives a rats ass. With all
the traffic on the roads today, you very seldom get a chance to open it up,
anyway. Check out your average speed on the trip computer and see how slow
you are really travelling.




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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 08-04-2006 , 08:30 AM



"No One" <noone (AT) home (DOT) now> wrote


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I bought mine because, at the time, no manufacturer made a car like it
that performed well. I rarely use premium in mine but I still bougt it
for the performance. You can't 'get' that?
If you always put 87 octane in a Maxima, you're going to have problems. The
only other explanation is that the 87 octane you're putting in.. isn't
really 87 octane. It happens, and is more common than you'd think. I used
to live by a Mobil who used to run premium for 87, 89, and 91 all the time.
Not sure why they did it.




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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 08-04-2006 , 12:55 PM



Premium is made at the local Tank Farm, and only costs a few cents a
gallon to make - all they do is add additional antiknock additives to
the reg stock fuel.

Often its not worth the expense to send out a divided truck, or
seperate trucks, so they just get all Premium. Sometimes they have
excess premium and are low on reg, so they transfer the premium to the
reg tank.

Thing is you never know - people claiming there maxima runs fine on
Reg gas, are most likely not actually buying regular gas.

However it only take a few occurances of severe pre ignition to damage
the engine, so for maybe extre 100 bucks a year for Premium its not
worth the risk.


"Rich" <rich (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote:

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I bought mine because, at the time, no manufacturer made a car like it
that performed well. I rarely use premium in mine but I still bougt it
for the performance. You can't 'get' that?

If you always put 87 octane in a Maxima, you're going to have problems. The
only other explanation is that the 87 octane you're putting in.. isn't
really 87 octane. It happens, and is more common than you'd think. I used
to live by a Mobil who used to run premium for 87, 89, and 91 all the time.
Not sure why they did it.




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