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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 08-14-2006 , 02:00 PM







Whatchamacallit wrote:
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Take the car back and have it tuned properly. If the manual says regular it
should run on regular.
None of this bullshit.
For whatever it's worth........1996 Max., 150K on the clock and have
always run 87 octane. Never pinged and is still very quick off the
line. Go figure.....



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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 09-02-2006 , 11:48 AM







AZV14 (AT) netscape (DOT) com wrote:
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more than often,,,the reg you buy is actually premium,,,

it only cost a few cents a gallon to make the reg stock feed into
premium,,at the tank farm.

often, its not worth the cost to send 2 shipments, or use a divided
truck, to the station, or they have extra premium that they didnt
sell.

That said,,the octane rating is a guaranteed "minimum"....

and if you blow up your maximas engine, due to pre ignition, because
your to dam cheap, after paying 30 grand for a car, to use
premium,,,then you deserve what idiots deserved.

Carroll Boardway <mcboard (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:

Rich wrote:
"Shines" <shinespamnot (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:bSaAg.652$FN2.211 (AT) newssvr14 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...

I was in a station today and they had only 87 in all pumps. Since I was
driving my Kia Sorento it was not a problem. But what will I do about my
98 Maxse when gas is needed?


One tank of 87 won't kill the car. I just wouldn't do more than a couple a
year, and NEVER consecutively. Try to use octane booster as well, and also
try not to do it on an empty tank.


I owned a 2004 Maxima for almost 2 years and always use 87 octane.
Never had a problem. I did try 89 once to see if it made any gas
mileage or performance difference, it did not. So if it runs on 87
without pinging, use 87.

I purchased my 98 GXE with 37k on the odometer. I later found out the
car was registered as a rental Car with Avis. Who puts high octane gas
in a rental?!!! I know I don't!!!

I've got 147k on the odometer now. The first 5k that I had the car, I
used 93. Afterward, when gas prices started creeping up I talked to a
certified nissan mechanic (who is now my personal mechanic on all 3 of
our Nissans). He said that the reccomendation for high octane is only
a recommendation and not a requirement. He said the car will be fine
so I opted for 87 and have been using it ever since. There is a slight
performance decrease and slight decrease in fuel economy but the way
gas prices are today to me it's not worth the extra money for the 93
and the car still runs good.

I find it hard to believe that after more than 100k all that 87 that I
put in the car was really 93.

If a certified Nissan mechanic says my car will run on 87 with no
problems, he uses it in his Nissan, and I get 100k out a used car using
87 then it's probably okay to use 87.

Unless a car is highly modified I don't think using 87 is going to harm
the car.



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AZV14@netscape.com
 
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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 09-02-2006 , 12:51 PM



Watch words here,,,:

"Probably", and "I don't think" - for 50 or 100 bucks a year more, you
would risk your engine based on that?????

So your Nissan Certified Tech knows more than the Nissan Engineers
that designed the car,,?

Why would Nissan recommend premium,(91 oct),? Its certainly not a
good marketing move,,,,,and they are certianly not guilty of any
"fraud" as the first ranting poster contended.

Also your engine is not the same as the one in the 2000 and later.

Even if I concede that "probably" it will not shorten engine life, why
buy a performance sedan, and then run around with the timing fully
retarded 24/7...??? Its like filling the trunk with bricks,,,,,that
"probably" would not damage the car, but who wants to drive around
like that?

This thread has been talked about to exhaustion on maxima.org -
overwhelming conclusion by people who know is to use 91 oct or better
- just like the gas cap says.

"542keith" <542keith (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:
AZV14 (AT) netscape (DOT) com wrote:
more than often,,,the reg you buy is actually premium,,,

it only cost a few cents a gallon to make the reg stock feed into
premium,,at the tank farm.

often, its not worth the cost to send 2 shipments, or use a divided
truck, to the station, or they have extra premium that they didnt
sell.

That said,,the octane rating is a guaranteed "minimum"....

and if you blow up your maximas engine, due to pre ignition, because
your to dam cheap, after paying 30 grand for a car, to use
premium,,,then you deserve what idiots deserved.

Carroll Boardway <mcboard (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:

Rich wrote:
"Shines" <shinespamnot (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:bSaAg.652$FN2.211 (AT) newssvr14 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...

I was in a station today and they had only 87 in all pumps. Since I was
driving my Kia Sorento it was not a problem. But what will I do about my
98 Maxse when gas is needed?


One tank of 87 won't kill the car. I just wouldn't do more than a couple a
year, and NEVER consecutively. Try to use octane booster as well, and also
try not to do it on an empty tank.


I owned a 2004 Maxima for almost 2 years and always use 87 octane.
Never had a problem. I did try 89 once to see if it made any gas
mileage or performance difference, it did not. So if it runs on 87
without pinging, use 87.


I purchased my 98 GXE with 37k on the odometer. I later found out the
car was registered as a rental Car with Avis. Who puts high octane gas
in a rental?!!! I know I don't!!!

I've got 147k on the odometer now. The first 5k that I had the car, I
used 93. Afterward, when gas prices started creeping up I talked to a
certified nissan mechanic (who is now my personal mechanic on all 3 of
our Nissans). He said that the reccomendation for high octane is only
a recommendation and not a requirement. He said the car will be fine
so I opted for 87 and have been using it ever since. There is a slight
performance decrease and slight decrease in fuel economy but the way
gas prices are today to me it's not worth the extra money for the 93
and the car still runs good.

I find it hard to believe that after more than 100k all that 87 that I
put in the car was really 93.

If a certified Nissan mechanic says my car will run on 87 with no
problems, he uses it in his Nissan, and I get 100k out a used car using
87 then it's probably okay to use 87.

Unless a car is highly modified I don't think using 87 is going to harm
the car.



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Rich
 
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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 09-05-2006 , 07:30 AM



"No One" <noone (AT) home (DOT) now> wrote

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Are you so thick that you
believe the only reason people buy a Maxima is for the performance?
OK, why not buy a Taurus and save $15k?




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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 09-05-2006 , 11:47 AM



I traded my Taurus for my maxima --\\Trust me, you do not want to buy
a Taurus even to save 15 grand,,,LOL

BTW - my Taurus owners manual said it would "run" on 84 octane with 87
or better recommended, So I guess Ford is commiting the same "fraud"
that Nissan is accused of.


"Rich" <rich (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
"No One" <noone (AT) home (DOT) now> wrote in message
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Are you so thick that you
believe the only reason people buy a Maxima is for the performance?

OK, why not buy a Taurus and save $15k?




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Chuck In Dallas
 
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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 09-05-2006 , 04:49 PM



Looks like great minds think alike. I traded my 2000 Taurus with 900
miles for my 2000 Maxima GLE. I took a $3000 bath on the Taurus that
was worth every penny. I still have the Maxima with 118,000 miles and
I love it.
==================================

Quote:
I traded my Taurus for my maxima --\\Trust me, you do not want to buy
a Taurus even to save 15 grand,,,LOL

BTW - my Taurus owners manual said it would "run" on 84 octane with 87
or better recommended, So I guess Ford is commiting the same "fraud"
that Nissan is accused of.


"Rich" <rich (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote:

"No One" <noone (AT) home (DOT) now> wrote in message
news:44f9ddd8$0$97253$892e7fe2 (AT) authen (DOT) yellow.readfreenews.net...
Are you so thick that you
believe the only reason people buy a Maxima is for the performance?

OK, why not buy a Taurus and save $15k?




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Rich
 
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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 09-06-2006 , 07:19 AM



<AZV14 (AT) netscape (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Then the water pump, then the front seal, then the back seals, (the
dam thing leaked fluid from every seam,,,I use to call it the Exxon
Valdez..), power steerng pump, you mention a pump I replaced it.
Hah, we call my wife's Explorer the "Valdez" due to excessive fuel
consumption.

We have a 2nd child coming within the week, and her lease on that POS is up
in 7 months or so. She only buys domestics, due to her UAW family. I
honestly have no idea what to do - the Ford Edge looks promising, but we
played the "first model year Ford" game with the Escape. It wasn't a BAD
vehicle, but we did only have it for 30k miles or so. The transmission was
slipping, so we traded it before it self destructed.

The only UAW-made family hauler I can think of are the GM minivans, which
are completely awful and from the mesazoic period. It's a shame, because
the '07 Quest looks really, really nice. My folks have an '04, which was
problematic in the beginning but fine now.




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E Meyer
 
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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 09-06-2006 , 06:37 PM



The Quest is really a Ford. If they still make the Mercury Villager, it is
the same thing.


On 9/6/06 7:19 AM, in article YdzLg.1904$vb1.69 (AT) newsfe04 (DOT) lga, "Rich"
<rich (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
AZV14 (AT) netscape (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:44fdf3f9.22431046 (AT) news (DOT) west.cox.net...
Then the water pump, then the front seal, then the back seals, (the
dam thing leaked fluid from every seam,,,I use to call it the Exxon
Valdez..), power steerng pump, you mention a pump I replaced it.

Hah, we call my wife's Explorer the "Valdez" due to excessive fuel
consumption.

We have a 2nd child coming within the week, and her lease on that POS is up
in 7 months or so. She only buys domestics, due to her UAW family. I
honestly have no idea what to do - the Ford Edge looks promising, but we
played the "first model year Ford" game with the Escape. It wasn't a BAD
vehicle, but we did only have it for 30k miles or so. The transmission was
slipping, so we traded it before it self destructed.

The only UAW-made family hauler I can think of are the GM minivans, which
are completely awful and from the mesazoic period. It's a shame, because
the '07 Quest looks really, really nice. My folks have an '04, which was
problematic in the beginning but fine now.




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Rich
 
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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 09-07-2006 , 07:34 AM



"E Meyer" <epmeyer50 (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
The Quest is really a Ford. If they still make the Mercury Villager, it
is
the same thing.
Unfortunately, that's no longer the case, unless I'm shopping used (2002 or
prior). The '04 and up Quests are made by Nissan in the U.S. by non-union
workers, and Ford has nothing to do with it anymore.

Quote:

On 9/6/06 7:19 AM, in article YdzLg.1904$vb1.69 (AT) newsfe04 (DOT) lga, "Rich"
rich (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote:

AZV14 (AT) netscape (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:44fdf3f9.22431046 (AT) news (DOT) west.cox.net...
Then the water pump, then the front seal, then the back seals, (the
dam thing leaked fluid from every seam,,,I use to call it the Exxon
Valdez..), power steerng pump, you mention a pump I replaced it.

Hah, we call my wife's Explorer the "Valdez" due to excessive fuel
consumption.

We have a 2nd child coming within the week, and her lease on that POS is
up
in 7 months or so. She only buys domestics, due to her UAW family. I
honestly have no idea what to do - the Ford Edge looks promising, but we
played the "first model year Ford" game with the Escape. It wasn't a BAD
vehicle, but we did only have it for 30k miles or so. The transmission
was
slipping, so we traded it before it self destructed.

The only UAW-made family hauler I can think of are the GM minivans, which
are completely awful and from the mesazoic period. It's a shame, because
the '07 Quest looks really, really nice. My folks have an '04, which was
problematic in the beginning but fine now.






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E Meyer
 
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Default Re: Nissan Fraud. Regular gas - 09-07-2006 , 09:09 AM



Oh, well... I guess you're screwed, then. I don't debate that the unions
are necessary. You don't have to look very far back in history to see why.
But if the products produced by union workers continue to be overpriced and
sub-standard, they aren't going to be around much longer. The rest of the
world will see to it.


On 9/7/06 7:34 AM, in article 4zULg.197$fK7.131 (AT) newsfe03 (DOT) lga, "Rich"
<rich (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
"E Meyer" <epmeyer50 (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:C124C605.A4D4%epmeyer50 (AT) msn (DOT) com...
The Quest is really a Ford. If they still make the Mercury Villager, it
is
the same thing.

Unfortunately, that's no longer the case, unless I'm shopping used (2002 or
prior). The '04 and up Quests are made by Nissan in the U.S. by non-union
workers, and Ford has nothing to do with it anymore.



On 9/6/06 7:19 AM, in article YdzLg.1904$vb1.69 (AT) newsfe04 (DOT) lga, "Rich"
rich (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote:

AZV14 (AT) netscape (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:44fdf3f9.22431046 (AT) news (DOT) west.cox.net...
Then the water pump, then the front seal, then the back seals, (the
dam thing leaked fluid from every seam,,,I use to call it the Exxon
Valdez..), power steerng pump, you mention a pump I replaced it.

Hah, we call my wife's Explorer the "Valdez" due to excessive fuel
consumption.

We have a 2nd child coming within the week, and her lease on that POS is
up
in 7 months or so. She only buys domestics, due to her UAW family. I
honestly have no idea what to do - the Ford Edge looks promising, but we
played the "first model year Ford" game with the Escape. It wasn't a BAD
vehicle, but we did only have it for 30k miles or so. The transmission
was
slipping, so we traded it before it self destructed.

The only UAW-made family hauler I can think of are the GM minivans, which
are completely awful and from the mesazoic period. It's a shame, because
the '07 Quest looks really, really nice. My folks have an '04, which was
problematic in the beginning but fine now.







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