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Default 96 Maxima - 145k - P0174 - Fuel System Too Lean Left Bank - 05-21-2007 , 12:44 PM






All,

The CEL set on my Max two weekends ago showing DTC 0210 (P0174). This
indicates that the system detected the left bank was running lean.

Possible faults:
1. MAF
2. Injector(s)
3. Air Intake leak
4. Bad O2 sensor
5. Exhaust leak

My diagnosis:
1. MAF
-> Nope - would likely affect both banks - car runs and pulls fine.

2. Injector(s)
-> Nope - listened to each injector (left bank is the front 3
cylinders on the VQ30DE) - each clicks normally and at the same
frequency. Also, I didn't get any misfire code or feel any
hestitation when driving - so I'm pretty sure it's not one or more
injectors...

3. Air Intake leak
-> Nope: I had the top of the engine off two years ago when replacing
the valve cover spark plug seals and I replaced the upper-intake-
manifold gasket as well as all other intake assembly gaskets. Also
I'd expect this to affect both banks.

4. Bad O2 sensor
-> Most likely. O2 sensors are 60k old - mileage has been down about
10% over the past few months (before CEL tripped)

5. Exhaust leak
-> Nope: Didn't feel anything upstream of the O2 - no noise.

So before I order myself a new O2 sensor to swap in -> anyone else
have any thoughts or comments on my reasoning, or experience with this
fault? I'm too lazy to swap the two front O2 sensors around to see if
I can move the fault to the other bank

I know on the 5th Gens, system lean codes for both banks would show up
at the same time, and that was usually the MAF...

Note: Resetting the ECU (to clear CEL) keeps it off for sometimes a
few days, sometimes a few hours.

Thanks,
Nirav


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Default Re: 96 Maxima - 145k - P0174 - Fuel System Too Lean Left Bank - 05-22-2007 , 06:53 AM






On May 21, 1:44 pm, njm... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
Quote:
All,

The CEL set on my Max two weekends ago showing DTC 0210 (P0174). This
indicates that the system detected the left bank was running lean.

Possible faults:
1. MAF
2. Injector(s)
3. Air Intake leak
4. Bad O2 sensor
5. Exhaust leak

My diagnosis:
1. MAF
-> Nope - would likely affect both banks - car runs and pulls fine.

2. Injector(s)
-> Nope - listened to each injector (left bank is the front 3
cylinders on the VQ30DE) - each clicks normally and at the same
frequency. Also, I didn't get any misfire code or feel any
hestitation when driving - so I'm pretty sure it's not one or more
injectors...

3. Air Intake leak
-> Nope: I had the top of the engine off two years ago when replacing
the valve cover spark plug seals and I replaced the upper-intake-
manifold gasket as well as all other intake assembly gaskets. Also
I'd expect this to affect both banks.

4. Bad O2 sensor
-> Most likely. O2 sensors are 60k old - mileage has been down about
10% over the past few months (before CEL tripped)

5. Exhaust leak
-> Nope: Didn't feel anything upstream of the O2 - no noise.

So before I order myself a new O2 sensor to swap in -> anyone else
have any thoughts or comments on my reasoning, or experience with this
fault? I'm too lazy to swap the two front O2 sensors around to see if
I can move the fault to the other bank

I know on the 5th Gens, system lean codes for both banks would show up
at the same time, and that was usually the MAF...

Note: Resetting the ECU (to clear CEL) keeps it off for sometimes a
few days, sometimes a few hours.

Thanks,
Nirav
When I had my 98 Maxima, I put a performance catalyst into it, and I
vaguely recall getting a similar CEL code. Putting the OEM cat back
resolved it. So maybe there's something going on with your cat.

CD



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Default Re: 96 Maxima - 145k - P0174 - Fuel System Too Lean Left Bank - 05-22-2007 , 09:23 AM



On May 22, 6:53 am, codifus <codi... (AT) optonline (DOT) net> wrote:
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On May 21, 1:44 pm, njm... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:



All,

The CEL set on my Max two weekends ago showing DTC 0210 (P0174). This
indicates that the system detected the left bank was running lean.

Possible faults:
1. MAF
2. Injector(s)
3. Air Intake leak
4. Bad O2 sensor
5. Exhaust leak

My diagnosis:
1. MAF
-> Nope - would likely affect both banks - car runs and pulls fine.

2. Injector(s)
-> Nope - listened to each injector (left bank is the front 3
cylinders on the VQ30DE) - each clicks normally and at the same
frequency. Also, I didn't get any misfire code or feel any
hestitation when driving - so I'm pretty sure it's not one or more
injectors...

3. Air Intake leak
-> Nope: I had the top of the engine off two years ago when replacing
the valve cover spark plug seals and I replaced the upper-intake-
manifold gasket as well as all other intake assembly gaskets. Also
I'd expect this to affect both banks.

4. Bad O2 sensor
-> Most likely. O2 sensors are 60k old - mileage has been down about
10% over the past few months (before CEL tripped)

5. Exhaust leak
-> Nope: Didn't feel anything upstream of the O2 - no noise.

So before I order myself a new O2 sensor to swap in -> anyone else
have any thoughts or comments on my reasoning, or experience with this
fault? I'm too lazy to swap the two front O2 sensors around to see if
I can move the fault to the other bank

I know on the 5th Gens, system lean codes for both banks would show up
at the same time, and that was usually the MAF...

Note: Resetting the ECU (to clear CEL) keeps it off for sometimes a
few days, sometimes a few hours.

Thanks,
Nirav

When I had my 98 Maxima, I put a performance catalyst into it, and I
vaguely recall getting a similar CEL code. Putting the OEM cat back
resolved it. So maybe there's something going on with your cat.

CD

CD - I don't think this is the problem in my case since there is no
way after the y-pipe for the ECU to know which bank is lean - there is
a single shared O2 sensor after the catalytic converter - but no
longer any differentiation per bank.

I still have the factory exhaust on the vehicle.

Thanks for the input.

Nirav



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Default Re: 96 Maxima - 145k - P0174 - Fuel System Too Lean Left Bank - 05-22-2007 , 09:27 AM



On 21 May 2007 10:44:05 -0700, njmodi (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:
All,

The CEL set on my Max two weekends ago showing DTC 0210 (P0174). This
indicates that the system detected the left bank was running lean.

Possible faults:
1. MAF
2. Injector(s)
3. Air Intake leak
4. Bad O2 sensor
5. Exhaust leak

My diagnosis:
1. MAF
-> Nope - would likely affect both banks - car runs and pulls fine.

2. Injector(s)
-> Nope - listened to each injector (left bank is the front 3
cylinders on the VQ30DE) - each clicks normally and at the same
frequency. Also, I didn't get any misfire code or feel any
hestitation when driving - so I'm pretty sure it's not one or more
injectors...

3. Air Intake leak
-> Nope: I had the top of the engine off two years ago when replacing
the valve cover spark plug seals and I replaced the upper-intake-
manifold gasket as well as all other intake assembly gaskets. Also
I'd expect this to affect both banks.

4. Bad O2 sensor
-> Most likely. O2 sensors are 60k old - mileage has been down about
10% over the past few months (before CEL tripped)

5. Exhaust leak
-> Nope: Didn't feel anything upstream of the O2 - no noise.

So before I order myself a new O2 sensor to swap in -> anyone else
have any thoughts or comments on my reasoning, or experience with this
fault? I'm too lazy to swap the two front O2 sensors around to see if
I can move the fault to the other bank

I know on the 5th Gens, system lean codes for both banks would show up
at the same time, and that was usually the MAF...

Note: Resetting the ECU (to clear CEL) keeps it off for sometimes a
few days, sometimes a few hours.

Thanks,
Nirav
How about a leaking vacumm hose. Perhaps one that connects to left
bank, or affects the left bank.

Al Moodie


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