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Default Re: battery mysteriously drained - 09-15-2003 , 10:34 PM






On 15 Sep 2003 10:55:58 -0700, rusa7 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Rusa) wrote:

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Hi all,
Yesterday, I couldnt start my nissan maxima GXE ('92). No lights
coming on, no nothing. The battery read about 4 volts ! Thought
battery was totally dead and got a brand new battery.

I fitted in the new battery and the car started up fine. I didnt run
the car again that day. Next day I attempted to start the car to go to
work but battery was totally dead again. The battery is reading about
5 volts and it is brand new !

I am baffled as to what could have drained the battery since I didnt
run the car at all ? Could my alternator be shorted but I can't
explain why the car started the first time when I put the new battery.

Any pointers sincerely appreciated.
Hi,

Here's a problem I had which I have fixed. Maybe the solution will
help you.

93 GXE 140k miles

Had nearly 30 days of continuous below-freezing weather where I am,
Washington DC suburb. Drove one to local mall a few miles away. Came
out after about two hours, battery is completely flat, will not turn
engine over. I figured it was the cold weather, many cold starts,
heater running constantly, often using headlights, short, start/stop
runs.

Called my wife, she brought her car with jumper leads, started OK.
Drove the car home and put the battery (only 18 months old) on the
charger overnight. Reconnected it next morning, car starts and runs
fine. Assumed the problem was solved. Next day I get a call from my
wife, Maxima has flat battery outside local library.

Same procedure, jump start then drive home. Took the battery out and
put it back on the charger. Left the car till the weekend for further
examination.

On the weekend, looked up my Haynes manual. Started doing their
charging system checks.

1) All fuses inside car OK
2) All relays under hood OK]
3) Battery open voltage OK
4) Put an ammeter in circuit with the battery (disconnect negative
battery terminal and insert ammeter) Found that with the IGNITION OFF
there was a 100 milliamp current drain. Haynes says the maximum
current drain (considering, clock, radio presets, engine control
computer, etc) should be 50 milliamps.

With the ammeter still in circuit I started pulling connectors off the
positive battery terminal. As soon as I removed the fuseable link
which connects to the alternator main terminal, the current drain
dropped to zero.

Remembered Nissan Tech and possibly others had previously mentioned
the alternator diodes go bad after time, so I figued I had found the
problem.

Bought a new alternator my local Nissan dealer $368.00. Replaced the
alternater, recharged the battery. Problem solved.

Al Moodie.


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ronm
 
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Default Re: battery mysteriously drained - 09-16-2003 , 05:21 PM






In 2000 or 2001 Nissan started re-calling some of the 98 Maxima's and
re-placing the alternators because of vendor problems with diodes. I
was not having a problem but let them replace my alternator.
ronm

Al Moodie wrote:
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On 15 Sep 2003 10:55:58 -0700, rusa7 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Rusa) wrote:


Hi all,
Yesterday, I couldnt start my nissan maxima GXE ('92). No lights
coming on, no nothing. The battery read about 4 volts ! Thought
battery was totally dead and got a brand new battery.

I fitted in the new battery and the car started up fine. I didnt run
the car again that day. Next day I attempted to start the car to go to
work but battery was totally dead again. The battery is reading about
5 volts and it is brand new !

I am baffled as to what could have drained the battery since I didnt
run the car at all ? Could my alternator be shorted but I can't
explain why the car started the first time when I put the new battery.

Any pointers sincerely appreciated.


Hi,

Here's a problem I had which I have fixed. Maybe the solution will
help you.

93 GXE 140k miles

Had nearly 30 days of continuous below-freezing weather where I am,
Washington DC suburb. Drove one to local mall a few miles away. Came
out after about two hours, battery is completely flat, will not turn
engine over. I figured it was the cold weather, many cold starts,
heater running constantly, often using headlights, short, start/stop
runs.

Called my wife, she brought her car with jumper leads, started OK.
Drove the car home and put the battery (only 18 months old) on the
charger overnight. Reconnected it next morning, car starts and runs
fine. Assumed the problem was solved. Next day I get a call from my
wife, Maxima has flat battery outside local library.

Same procedure, jump start then drive home. Took the battery out and
put it back on the charger. Left the car till the weekend for further
examination.

On the weekend, looked up my Haynes manual. Started doing their
charging system checks.

1) All fuses inside car OK
2) All relays under hood OK]
3) Battery open voltage OK
4) Put an ammeter in circuit with the battery (disconnect negative
battery terminal and insert ammeter) Found that with the IGNITION OFF
there was a 100 milliamp current drain. Haynes says the maximum
current drain (considering, clock, radio presets, engine control
computer, etc) should be 50 milliamps.

With the ammeter still in circuit I started pulling connectors off the
positive battery terminal. As soon as I removed the fuseable link
which connects to the alternator main terminal, the current drain
dropped to zero.

Remembered Nissan Tech and possibly others had previously mentioned
the alternator diodes go bad after time, so I figued I had found the
problem.

Bought a new alternator my local Nissan dealer $368.00. Replaced the
alternater, recharged the battery. Problem solved.

Al Moodie.


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Holden McGroyn
 
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Default Re: battery mysteriously drained - 09-29-2003 , 04:16 PM



"John Nguyen" <Jnguyen80 (AT) houston (DOT) rr.com> wrote in
news:ZJUcb.14642$ah.5308 (AT) twister (DOT) austin.rr.com:

Quote:
it's most likely the alternator.... because the alternator is wat
recharges the battery of the car... no recharge means that your car
will be running the battery till it dies out on you... this would
explain the new battery going dead on you... because since your
starter got the juice from the new battery to start... it works fine..
and your ignition coils would have gotten their power from the new
battery as well.... but since while running the alternator wasn't
recharging your battery... it basically ran it dry... since it was
only 1 day from new.. this would probably explain the 5V compared with
the old batteries 4V...

I must disagree, if the alternator were not charging and the car was driven
it would have stalled long before the battery was that far discharged.


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