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Default Re: 405 Key fob not working!! help - 05-01-2007 , 07:43 AM






my friend has had a look at the fob for me to see if he can solder it, so we
will ahve to wait and see but thanks for lettting me know that i can not re-
program the fob, i'm a she by the way keith not a he.but thanks for trying to
help it is appreciated

Keith Willcocks wrote:
Quote:
My key is built into the fob so it would be impossible for me to carry
out
[quoted text clipped - 57 lines]
is the type that cannot be seperated from the plip then the new key
will come like that and will need to be cut.

Thanks Nigel, that will at least save him trying unsuccessfully to reprogram
the key. I was hoping my suggestions would help but I had a nasty
suspicion that the 405 would be different.

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Brian
 
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Default Re: 405 Key fob not working!! help - 05-01-2007 , 09:32 AM







"lee405 via CarKB.com" <u29444@uwe> wrote

Quote:
my friend has had a look at the fob for me to see if he can solder it, so
we
will ahve to wait and see but thanks for lettting me know that i can not
re-
program the fob, i'm a she by the way keith not a he.but thanks for trying
to
help it is appreciated
Does your 405 have a button on the side of the steering column to disable
the alarm? If so you might be able to get round it. But again you really
need two keys. Might be worth getting a plain copy made of the key by any
locksmith, hardware store or motor supply place which also cuts keys.
This you can then use in the lock to open the door.OK this will make the
alarm sound I know.
You then switch on the ignition switch whilst depressing the alarm button.
This will cancel the alarm and allow you to start the engine. This must be
done within 10 seconds of opening the door.
This came from the Haynes manual for a '93 306, but I am sure it also worked
for my '93 405. (Now gone to the big scrapyard in the sky).
Hope it works for you.




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Keith Willcocks
 
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Default Re: 405 Key fob not working!! help - 05-01-2007 , 01:57 PM



Apologies for changing your gender. I assume that Lee is a forename and,
if so, I should be ashamed of myself, because my daughter's second name is
Lee (my wife liked the actress Lee Remick). Post back and let us know
how you get on.

Keith

"lee405 via CarKB.com" <u29444@uwe> wrote

Quote:
my friend has had a look at the fob for me to see if he can solder it, so
we
will ahve to wait and see but thanks for lettting me know that i can not
re-
program the fob, i'm a she by the way keith not a he.but thanks for trying
to
help it is appreciated

Keith Willcocks wrote:
My key is built into the fob so it would be impossible for me to carry
out
[quoted text clipped - 57 lines]
is the type that cannot be seperated from the plip then the new key
will come like that and will need to be cut.

Thanks Nigel, that will at least save him trying unsuccessfully to
reprogram
the key. I was hoping my suggestions would help but I had a nasty
suspicion that the 405 would be different.

Keith

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Bob Minchin
 
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Default Re: 405 Key fob not working!! help - 05-01-2007 , 03:40 PM




"Brian" <blecnospam (AT) tesco (DOT) net> wrote

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"lee405 via CarKB.com" <u29444@uwe> wrote in message
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my friend has had a look at the fob for me to see if he can solder it,
so
we
will ahve to wait and see but thanks for lettting me know that i can not
re-
program the fob, i'm a she by the way keith not a he.but thanks for
trying
to
help it is appreciated

Does your 405 have a button on the side of the steering column to disable
the alarm? If so you might be able to get round it. But again you really
need two keys. Might be worth getting a plain copy made of the key by any
locksmith, hardware store or motor supply place which also cuts keys.
This you can then use in the lock to open the door.OK this will make the
alarm sound I know.
You then switch on the ignition switch whilst depressing the alarm button.
This will cancel the alarm and allow you to start the engine. This must be
done within 10 seconds of opening the door.
This came from the Haynes manual for a '93 306, but I am sure it also
worked
for my '93 405. (Now gone to the big scrapyard in the sky).
Hope it works for you.


The sterring column button only disables the ultrasonic alarm inside the
car. The only way to turn off the alarm is the keyswitch under the bonnet.

Bob




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Default Re: 405 Key fob not working!! help - 05-02-2007 , 02:39 AM



lol no problem Keith on the gender change, its times like this i wish i was a
man and the Lee is short version of my name which is to distinctive to use as
a sign on name as its not a common name at all.

the chap who said about pressing the button on side of steering column, it
won't work when my alarm goes off it sets off the imobliser so the engine
would not start. so i'm gonna try to get it resoldered and see if that helps
failing that will have to do what you guys said and order a new one.

Keith Willcocks wrote:
Quote:
Apologies for changing your gender. I assume that Lee is a forename and,
if so, I should be ashamed of myself, because my daughter's second name is
Lee (my wife liked the actress Lee Remick). Post back and let us know
how you get on.

Keith

my friend has had a look at the fob for me to see if he can solder it, so
we
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Brian
 
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Default Re: 405 Key fob not working!! help - 05-02-2007 , 03:35 AM



Quote:
Does your 405 have a button on the side of the steering column to
disable
the alarm? If so you might be able to get round it. But again you really
need two keys. Might be worth getting a plain copy made of the key by
any
locksmith, hardware store or motor supply place which also cuts keys.
This you can then use in the lock to open the door.OK this will make the
alarm sound I know.
You then switch on the ignition switch whilst depressing the alarm
button.
This will cancel the alarm and allow you to start the engine. This must
be
done within 10 seconds of opening the door.
This came from the Haynes manual for a '93 306, but I am sure it also
worked
for my '93 405. (Now gone to the big scrapyard in the sky).
Hope it works for you.



The sterring column button only disables the ultrasonic alarm inside the
car. The only way to turn off the alarm is the keyswitch under the bonnet.

Bob

Certainly on the 306, that button, if pressed when turning ON the ignition,
will disable the immobiliser part of the alarm too.
It has to be done in the correct way. I do not have the key for the switch
under the bonnet on the 306, and so whenever I have to disconnect the
battery, I have to go through the above process before I can start the
engine, as the alarm resets when the battery is connected again. The key fob
drains its batteries so quickly (known fault on these) that it isn't worth
putting new batteries in just for this.
However, it seems it doesn't work on the 405 in question.




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Default Re: 405 Key fob not working!! help - 05-02-2007 , 03:00 PM



Sorry to hear of your problems here. I have a 405 saloon L reg, and
think its the business. My fob button recently stopped working (button
wore out), and so I took it apart, disarmed the car by shorting the
pin terminals under the button, and just use the key without the alarm
(I also got another successfully cut by a standard key smith). If you
open and shut the doors just using the key, the alarm is not activated
but central locking works..I will fix a new button to the fob
eventually and reuse the alarm.


Mike.



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Default Re: 405 Key fob not working!! help - 05-03-2007 , 07:34 AM



Richard my friend looked at the PCB board and he said that the joints look
fine, but one of the metal bits near a hole look worn down to almost the
green board underneath, so looks like i may have to fork out for new fob,,
doh!!

MacMan85 wrote:
Quote:
the key fob seems to work intermittently does this still mean that it needs
re-programing?

My experience with 405 keys is similar, the led on the key works okay
but the key only intermittently operates the lock/immobiliser.

I fixed mine by taking it apart and resoldering the IR led and driver
chip onto the PCB. During the life of the key, there is enough flex in
the assembly to cause a dry joint which makes the key plip operate
intermittently.

I've done the keys for two cars like this, same fault both time. Find
an electronics engineer near you who can cope with SMD components and
you'll be surprised how quick it is to fix!

Good luck
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