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Default Peugeot 206SW 1.4 HDi - When to change cambelt? - 08-25-2009 , 12:15 AM






6 years old next month, 24K miles, only gets light use mostly on 5 to
10 mile trips to shops, does about 1,200 miles a year.
When should cam belt be changed & what should it cost about?
Main Dealer service reception said with my use every 20 years, cost
£370.
Their mechanic recharging my air con looked at alternator belt and
said if that is original belt (it is) it's as new so cambelt should
be OK for a bit.
Nationwide Autoservices computer says change at 144K miles or 10
years.
Others have said it should be done now and they have had
idler/tensioner go at 23K miles.
Am I living on borrowed time or has it not reached recommended
period/miles?
Other than fuel gauge started sticking last month, recharged air con
this year, radio/CD changed warranty at 29 months, BSI & ECU
firmware updated due to couple of minor things under waranty
(transponder misread, trip meter blobbed).
I am happy with the car as my mobility scooter loads in it easily with
ramps & don't have to remove any bits just fold seat & tiller.

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Ross Herbert
 
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Default Re: Peugeot 206SW 1.4 HDi - When to change cambelt? - 08-28-2009 , 12:20 AM






On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:15:28 -0500, ca.nicholson (AT) virgin-dot-net (DOT) no-spam.invalid
(Contax) wrote:

:6 years old next month, 24K miles, only gets light use mostly on 5 to
:10 mile trips to shops, does about 1,200 miles a year.
:When should cam belt be changed & what should it cost about?
:Main Dealer service reception said with my use every 20 years, cost
:£370.

This page gives a good idea of timing belt change periods for Peugeot engines.
You will need to know which engine you have though.
http://www.peugeotlogic.com/workshop/base/workshop.htm

Peugeot always cover their backside (as do all vehicle manufacturers) by adding
a rider following the change period statement, ie. "or whichever comes first".
This means that even if you didn't take your 206SW out of the garage in the
stated time period, you should still change the belt when that time period had
expired.

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Default Re: Peugeot 206SW 1.4 HDi - When to change cambelt? - 10-26-2009 , 09:07 AM



Cam belt on my 307 HDi 1.6 2004 went at 80,000 and caused £2000 worth of
damage. The computer says that model cam belt doesn't need changing until
120,000. Nobody mentions that the water pump might need changing or at least
checking! I think that is what went wrong and caused the CAM belt to break.

"Contax" <ca.nicholson (AT) virgin-dot-net (DOT) no-spam.invalid> wrote

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6 years old next month, 24K miles, only gets light use mostly on 5 to
10 mile trips to shops, does about 1,200 miles a year.
When should cam belt be changed & what should it cost about?
Main Dealer service reception said with my use every 20 years, cost
£370.
Their mechanic recharging my air con looked at alternator belt and
said if that is original belt (it is) it's as new so cambelt should
be OK for a bit.
Nationwide Autoservices computer says change at 144K miles or 10
years.
Others have said it should be done now and they have had
idler/tensioner go at 23K miles.
Am I living on borrowed time or has it not reached recommended
period/miles?
Other than fuel gauge started sticking last month, recharged air con
this year, radio/CD changed warranty at 29 months, BSI & ECU
firmware updated due to couple of minor things under waranty
(transponder misread, trip meter blobbed).
I am happy with the car as my mobility scooter loads in it easily with
ramps & don't have to remove any bits just fold seat & tiller.

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Default Re: Peugeot 206SW 1.4 HDi - When to change cambelt? - 10-27-2009 , 12:38 PM



Charlie+ wrote:
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:07:46 -0000, "lenny109" <lenny (AT) thetakeout (DOT) com> wrote
as underneath my scribble :

Cam belt on my 307 HDi 1.6 2004 went at 80,000 and caused £2000 worth of
damage. The computer says that model cam belt doesn't need changing until
120,000. Nobody mentions that the water pump might need changing or at least
checking! I think that is what went wrong and caused the CAM belt to break.

Expensive! and interesting, do you know the failure mode for the coolant
pump? Presumably a bearing failure and was there any prior indication at
all of the impending doom?! Was the coolant as original?
I doubt if there are any meaningful checks that can be done on an in situ
water pump or indeed on the other small but critical items on the timing
belt like the idler and tensioner wheels - failure of any one of which could
lead to an engine wreck similar to yours.
My 405 1.8i water pump failed recently. Symptom was water loss and on
removal, the bearing was badly worn/loose and the timing belt was quite
slack but had not let go thankfully. 90,000 miles since Jan 1995

Not really what I had planned for a Saturday but the job was fairly easy
but very little room to work in.

Bob

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Default Re: Peugeot 206SW 1.4 HDi - When to change cambelt? - 10-29-2009 , 10:41 AM



Charlie+ wrote:
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:38:04 +0000, Bob Minchin <nospam (AT) falseaddress (DOT) com
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Expensive! and interesting, do you know the failure mode for the coolant
pump? Presumably a bearing failure and was there any prior indication at
all of the impending doom?! Was the coolant as original?
I doubt if there are any meaningful checks that can be done on an in situ
water pump or indeed on the other small but critical items on the timing
belt like the idler and tensioner wheels - failure of any one of which could
lead to an engine wreck similar to yours.

My 405 1.8i water pump failed recently. Symptom was water loss and on
removal, the bearing was badly worn/loose and the timing belt was quite
slack but had not let go thankfully. 90,000 miles since Jan 1995

Not really what I had planned for a Saturday but the job was fairly easy
but very little room to work in.
Bob

Bob - well spotted - and the leak saved you a pile of grief! No rattling
or screeching then?
Im not looking forward to my 206 1.4 hdi going the same journey - I wont get
away without a couple of days graft I think, so tight and needs one to make
a couple of special pullers etc I believe. Meantime I will renew the
coolant to ontime and onspec - hoping to ward off the evil spirit!
Charlie+
No, there was no screech just significant water loss - 1 litre over 20
odd miles but only when under pressure.
I did not need a puller but mine was a petrol engine. You will need
locking pins for the cam and crank. Easy if you have a lathe (I do!)
otherwise its a case of finding something to fit. Mine was 10mm diam
crank and 8mm diam for the cam without any shoulders (Haynes manual was
wrong here - all too often find errors these days!)

If your engine will be so difficult to do it might be worth looking for
an independent Pug specialist with a decent hourly rate. I tend to trust
these guys more than official agents.

Good Luck

Bob

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