Hey all.

Here's a question for you... New (to me) 1988 Grand Prix 2.8L... When I got
it home, it started and ran cleanly, though there was a small hole in the
gas line. This has been fixed, new gas added (it was almost empty), and now
it will start but immediately die.

In the process of troubleshooting, I've found the following:

-Fuel pump does not always make noise when key is in ON position (but seems
to move when the engine is cranking)
-The fuel pump relay - whether it's present or not, the car does the same
start/die routine. The fuse is still good there.
-The fuel filter is good and not blocked (found this when I was replacing
the section of line that was leaking).

Any ideas would be greatly apprciated. I'm off to the wreckers now, to see
if I can't find another relay and then add some gas (thinking perhaps I got
some bad gas when I put some in last time).

Thanks.

Mark.

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Possibly air pockets in fuel line. Have you repeatedly tried to restart the
car after replacing fuel filter, fuel line? Alot of air can build up in the
fuel line after a disconnection is made. Fuel pump is only suppose to run
for 2-5 seconds when power is turned on. Let us know how things go.

"Mark" <mark (AT) meninblack (DOT) ca> wrote

Mike,

I was learning in the direction of air in the system or bad/watered gas.
I've repeatedly tried to start it, and it starts, runs for 2-5 seconds, then
dies. Here's the timeline of what's happened with the silver beast:

1) It was sitting for 3-4 months - aunt gives it to me.
2) Sits for another month while I finish working on my previous project.
3) Started the car, drove it around to check for probs - found it needed
front/rear brake work, motor mount, oil plug and gas line patch.
4) Rear brakes are done; motor mount and oil plugs have been replaced, and
oil/filter change has been done.
5) Gas line patched in two spots (with appropriate strength neoprene gas
tube and screw-clamps).
Now it won't start. There appears to be pressure in the tank (vacuum feel
when undoing gas cap).

I bought a replacement fuel pump relay today, and that seems to have helped
a little (engine starts, runs a few seconds longer than it did this morning,
then dies).

I guess the next thing on the adgenda is the fuel filter.... but first, how
does one remove air from the fuel system?

Thanks.

Mark.

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"Mike" <kc2jga (AT) twcny (DOT) rr.com> wrote

Oh yeah... I also added some high-octane gas today at the same time I
changed the pump relay.
(I can now hear the pump come on, so there's an improvement).

Mark.

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"Mike" <kc2jga (AT) twcny (DOT) rr.com> wrote

In article <Az6Uc.1325$KF.10397 (AT) tor-nn1 (DOT) netcom.ca>,
"Mark" <mark (AT) meninblack (DOT) ca> wrote:

Could be a bad EGR.

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