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Default Choosing a Grand Prix... Recommendations and thoughts appreciated. - 04-10-2007 , 08:31 PM






So I've found 2 Grand Prix's available locally. They are:

2002 Grand Prix GT coupe
Loaded, including leather interior (heated seats), power sunroof. All it's
missing from the GTP is the supercharger, HUD, and digitial DIC.
170,000 km

1997 Grand Prix GTP sedan
Loaded, same as above. But it's got the HUD and digital DIC.
125,000 km
Front end paint is showing some chips, but no rust (yet). Seats are showing
some age as well.

The GTP is $2000 cheaper than the GT, and the GT is really pushing my
budget. Actually, it's about 20% over my budget. The GTP is more
comfortable, money wise.

I've seen the pre-sales checklist on the GT, and they are replacing the oil
pan and gasket (???), as well as repairing the intake manifold. For the
GTP, I'd have to get it inspected, and go from there.

The GT is nice, but it takes a bit of a step beyond my budget. But it's 5
years newer, and nicely equipped. It also takes regular gas, instead of
premium, which is about 10% more expensive here. Most of my driving (90%)
is on a freeway (80 to 100 km/hour, 35 km each way, have made it end to end
without stopping once). I like enough power to be comfortable, but I don't
worry about racing or blowing the doors off the car next to me.

If it wasn't for the extra km's on the GT and the budgetary constraints, I
think I'd jump on that one with both feet. But I'm also concerned about the
age of the GTP and the paint chips (on both the hood and the front
quarter-panels). The GTP sedan also fits into my lifestyle a bit better, as
I've got two kids that would occassionally muddying up the back seat.
However, they're only 8 and 6, so they're still pretty nimble. And our
other vehicle is a mini-van, so if we need more space, we've got other
options. My current commuter vehicle is a 1988 Jeep Comanche, so anything
is a big step up.

Anyway, your thoughts are appreciated. Which one you'd choose, and perhaps
why, if you've got time.

Clint


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Default Re: Choosing a Grand Prix... Recommendations and thoughts appreciated. - 04-11-2007 , 12:20 AM






go with the 97 and tell them to fix the paint chips or you want another 1000
off. The 45,000 km would convince me. It sounds like you need the extra
bucks anyways and given that you are trading a 19 year old car in on it, it
sounds like you will probably keep either one for a few years at least. The
HUD and DIC would not be a consideration for me. Seats can always be covered
with some seat covers from NAPA or something.

Since both had a sunroof and the kids are young you will have no issues with
either car for at least 8 years as far as leg room is concerned. Either way
after 5 or 6 years both will be worth about the same.

Just my 2 cents.
"Clint" <cneufeld (AT) mysocks (DOT) shaw.ca> wrote

Quote:
So I've found 2 Grand Prix's available locally. They are:

2002 Grand Prix GT coupe
Loaded, including leather interior (heated seats), power sunroof. All
it's missing from the GTP is the supercharger, HUD, and digitial DIC.
170,000 km

1997 Grand Prix GTP sedan
Loaded, same as above. But it's got the HUD and digital DIC.
125,000 km
Front end paint is showing some chips, but no rust (yet). Seats are
showing some age as well.

The GTP is $2000 cheaper than the GT, and the GT is really pushing my
budget. Actually, it's about 20% over my budget. The GTP is more
comfortable, money wise.

I've seen the pre-sales checklist on the GT, and they are replacing the
oil pan and gasket (???), as well as repairing the intake manifold. For
the GTP, I'd have to get it inspected, and go from there.

The GT is nice, but it takes a bit of a step beyond my budget. But it's 5
years newer, and nicely equipped. It also takes regular gas, instead of
premium, which is about 10% more expensive here. Most of my driving (90%)
is on a freeway (80 to 100 km/hour, 35 km each way, have made it end to
end without stopping once). I like enough power to be comfortable, but I
don't worry about racing or blowing the doors off the car next to me.

If it wasn't for the extra km's on the GT and the budgetary constraints, I
think I'd jump on that one with both feet. But I'm also concerned about
the age of the GTP and the paint chips (on both the hood and the front
quarter-panels). The GTP sedan also fits into my lifestyle a bit better,
as I've got two kids that would occassionally muddying up the back seat.
However, they're only 8 and 6, so they're still pretty nimble. And
our other vehicle is a mini-van, so if we need more space, we've got other
options. My current commuter vehicle is a 1988 Jeep Comanche, so anything
is a big step up.

Anyway, your thoughts are appreciated. Which one you'd choose, and
perhaps why, if you've got time.

Clint



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Default Re: Choosing a Grand Prix... Recommendations and thoughts appreciated. - 04-12-2007 , 10:31 PM



Thanks for the input. How do you "fix" the paint chips, besides re-painting
the affected body parts?

Clint

"Les Benn" <lesbenn (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

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go with the 97 and tell them to fix the paint chips or you want another
1000 off. The 45,000 km would convince me. It sounds like you need the
extra bucks anyways and given that you are trading a 19 year old car in on
it, it sounds like you will probably keep either one for a few years at
least. The HUD and DIC would not be a consideration for me. Seats can
always be covered with some seat covers from NAPA or something.

Since both had a sunroof and the kids are young you will have no issues
with either car for at least 8 years as far as leg room is concerned.
Either way after 5 or 6 years both will be worth about the same.

Just my 2 cents.
"Clint" <cneufeld (AT) mysocks (DOT) shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:jUWSh.52180$DE1.22651 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
So I've found 2 Grand Prix's available locally. They are:

2002 Grand Prix GT coupe
Loaded, including leather interior (heated seats), power sunroof. All
it's missing from the GTP is the supercharger, HUD, and digitial DIC.
170,000 km

1997 Grand Prix GTP sedan
Loaded, same as above. But it's got the HUD and digital DIC.
125,000 km
Front end paint is showing some chips, but no rust (yet). Seats are
showing some age as well.

The GTP is $2000 cheaper than the GT, and the GT is really pushing my
budget. Actually, it's about 20% over my budget. The GTP is more
comfortable, money wise.

I've seen the pre-sales checklist on the GT, and they are replacing the
oil pan and gasket (???), as well as repairing the intake manifold. For
the GTP, I'd have to get it inspected, and go from there.

The GT is nice, but it takes a bit of a step beyond my budget. But it's
5 years newer, and nicely equipped. It also takes regular gas, instead
of premium, which is about 10% more expensive here. Most of my driving
(90%) is on a freeway (80 to 100 km/hour, 35 km each way, have made it
end to end without stopping once). I like enough power to be
comfortable, but I don't worry about racing or blowing the doors off the
car next to me.

If it wasn't for the extra km's on the GT and the budgetary constraints,
I think I'd jump on that one with both feet. But I'm also concerned
about the age of the GTP and the paint chips (on both the hood and the
front quarter-panels). The GTP sedan also fits into my lifestyle a bit
better, as I've got two kids that would occassionally muddying up the
back seat. However, they're only 8 and 6, so they're still pretty nimble.
And our other vehicle is a mini-van, so if we need more space, we've
got other options. My current commuter vehicle is a 1988 Jeep Comanche,
so anything is a big step up.

Anyway, your thoughts are appreciated. Which one you'd choose, and
perhaps why, if you've got time.

Clint




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Default Re: Choosing a Grand Prix... Recommendations and thoughts appreciated. - 04-12-2007 , 11:12 PM



just repaint the affected area is the only correct way to do it. If that
means they have to paint the whole car so be it. But the 97 is still the
better buy I think given your needs and finances. Maybe the best bet is ask
for 1500 off the car because you will have to repaint it all and then find a
good paint shop that you trust to do the work. In my town one paint shop
guarantees their work forever or until you sell the car whichever comes
first.

"Clint" <cneufeld (AT) mysocks (DOT) shaw.ca> wrote

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Thanks for the input. How do you "fix" the paint chips, besides
re-painting the affected body parts?

Clint

"Les Benn" <lesbenn (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message
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go with the 97 and tell them to fix the paint chips or you want another
1000 off. The 45,000 km would convince me. It sounds like you need the
extra bucks anyways and given that you are trading a 19 year old car in
on it, it sounds like you will probably keep either one for a few years
at least. The HUD and DIC would not be a consideration for me. Seats can
always be covered with some seat covers from NAPA or something.

Since both had a sunroof and the kids are young you will have no issues
with either car for at least 8 years as far as leg room is concerned.
Either way after 5 or 6 years both will be worth about the same.

Just my 2 cents.
"Clint" <cneufeld (AT) mysocks (DOT) shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:jUWSh.52180$DE1.22651 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) ..
So I've found 2 Grand Prix's available locally. They are:

2002 Grand Prix GT coupe
Loaded, including leather interior (heated seats), power sunroof. All
it's missing from the GTP is the supercharger, HUD, and digitial DIC.
170,000 km

1997 Grand Prix GTP sedan
Loaded, same as above. But it's got the HUD and digital DIC.
125,000 km
Front end paint is showing some chips, but no rust (yet). Seats are
showing some age as well.

The GTP is $2000 cheaper than the GT, and the GT is really pushing my
budget. Actually, it's about 20% over my budget. The GTP is more
comfortable, money wise.

I've seen the pre-sales checklist on the GT, and they are replacing the
oil pan and gasket (???), as well as repairing the intake manifold. For
the GTP, I'd have to get it inspected, and go from there.

The GT is nice, but it takes a bit of a step beyond my budget. But it's
5 years newer, and nicely equipped. It also takes regular gas, instead
of premium, which is about 10% more expensive here. Most of my driving
(90%) is on a freeway (80 to 100 km/hour, 35 km each way, have made it
end to end without stopping once). I like enough power to be
comfortable, but I don't worry about racing or blowing the doors off the
car next to me.

If it wasn't for the extra km's on the GT and the budgetary constraints,
I think I'd jump on that one with both feet. But I'm also concerned
about the age of the GTP and the paint chips (on both the hood and the
front quarter-panels). The GTP sedan also fits into my lifestyle a bit
better, as I've got two kids that would occassionally muddying up the
back seat. However, they're only 8 and 6, so they're still pretty
nimble. And our other vehicle is a mini-van, so if we need more
space, we've got other options. My current commuter vehicle is a 1988
Jeep Comanche, so anything is a big step up.

Anyway, your thoughts are appreciated. Which one you'd choose, and
perhaps why, if you've got time.

Clint






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