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Default Ping!!! Harry Face or anyone 89 Bonni ill - 01-20-2007 , 04:43 PM






My 89 Bonniville (360k kms)
Would not crank.
Two weeks prior I had a problem with the positive post...I ended up
cutting off the rubber to give it a better cleaning job......long storie
short I have good contact at the battery both positive cables.
I have an after market remote starter installed that also won' crank up
the starter.
This tells me the problem is after the the ignition on the way to the
solenoid.
I can start the car by hot wireing the starter at the solenoid....so I
traced out the solenoid wire back and it looks like it goes in and out
at the trans where the shift cable is...is this where the nuetral saftey
switch is?
Slamming the shifter up and down did not help moving the steering wheel
back and forth did not help. It would still not start with the
key......so I put it in gear while the engine was running and moved the
car back and forth about six feet and now everything is fine...it starts
with the key and the remote.
Problem is when is it going to do this again? I don't think the wife
will like crawling under it to jump the solenoid!
Now what would be the most likely no power to the steering colum
(everthing works like blower etc with key in run) but nothing to the
sloenoid from the key.
If the safety switch is a know problem on this car then i will just hot
wire that.
Any thoughts anybody???


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Default Re: Ping!!! Harry Face or anyone 89 Bonni ill - 01-20-2007 , 05:42 PM






On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:43:29 GMT, Know one that you know
<nooneshome (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:

Quote:
My 89 Bonniville (360k kms)
Would not crank.
Two weeks prior I had a problem with the positive post...I ended up
cutting off the rubber to give it a better cleaning job......long storie
short I have good contact at the battery both positive cables.
I have an after market remote starter installed that also won' crank up
the starter.
This tells me the problem is after the the ignition on the way to the
solenoid.
I can start the car by hot wireing the starter at the solenoid....so I
traced out the solenoid wire back and it looks like it goes in and out
at the trans where the shift cable is...is this where the nuetral saftey
switch is?
Slamming the shifter up and down did not help moving the steering wheel
back and forth did not help. It would still not start with the
key......so I put it in gear while the engine was running and moved the
car back and forth about six feet and now everything is fine...it starts
with the key and the remote.
Problem is when is it going to do this again? I don't think the wife
will like crawling under it to jump the solenoid!
Now what would be the most likely no power to the steering colum
(everthing works like blower etc with key in run) but nothing to the
sloenoid from the key.
If the safety switch is a know problem on this car then i will just hot
wire that.
Any thoughts anybody???
It could well be the starter solenoid. I haven't had this problem on
any of my Pontiacs, but I have on other cars. At first it is an
isolated occurrence, but the longer it is around the more frequent it
gets. Don't know how complicated it is to change on your car, but it
wasn't too bad on any of the ones I have changed.

Tom S.


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Default Re: Ping!!! Harry Face or anyone 89 Bonni ill - 01-21-2007 , 12:56 AM



I'm not really a whiz when it comes to electronics. Especially whe the
electronics have been tampered with - like adding a remote starter.

I'm not sure how a remote starter is hooked up but I'd check the remote
starter connections first of all and make sure there hooked up right &
connections clean & tight..

Good Luck

harryface


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Default Re: Ping!!! Harry Face or anyone 89 Bonni ill - 01-21-2007 , 01:00 PM





Tom S wrote:

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On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:43:29 GMT, Know one that you know
nooneshome (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:

My 89 Bonniville (360k kms)
Would not crank.
Two weeks prior I had a problem with the positive post...I ended up
cutting off the rubber to give it a better cleaning job......long storie
short I have good contact at the battery both positive cables.
I have an after market remote starter installed that also won' crank up
the starter.
This tells me the problem is after the the ignition on the way to the
solenoid.
I can start the car by hot wireing the starter at the solenoid....so I
traced out the solenoid wire back and it looks like it goes in and out
at the trans where the shift cable is...is this where the nuetral saftey
switch is?
Slamming the shifter up and down did not help moving the steering wheel
back and forth did not help. It would still not start with the
key......so I put it in gear while the engine was running and moved the
car back and forth about six feet and now everything is fine...it starts
with the key and the remote.
Problem is when is it going to do this again? I don't think the wife
will like crawling under it to jump the solenoid!
Now what would be the most likely no power to the steering colum
(everthing works like blower etc with key in run) but nothing to the
sloenoid from the key.
If the safety switch is a know problem on this car then i will just hot
wire that.
Any thoughts anybody???

It could well be the starter solenoid. I haven't had this problem on
any of my Pontiacs, but I have on other cars. At first it is an
isolated occurrence, but the longer it is around the more frequent it
gets. Don't know how complicated it is to change on your car, but it
wasn't too bad on any of the ones I have changed.

Tom S.
I ruled out the solenoid because I hot wired it with jumper cables where the
smaller 12v would be when key is in crank mode and the solenoid kiks in no
problemo. It all started to work after moving car forth and back.




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Default Re: Ping!!! Harry Face or anyone 89 Bonni ill - 01-21-2007 , 01:07 PM



Just thought I would ask you Harry because maybe you had the same trouble
with your old bonni. THX
I installed the remote years ago. It is paralell with the original wireing
nothing was cut during the install. The only reason I brought it up was
because it also is not sending power to the solenoid but I can hear the
relays clik like normal.
Does anyone know if the neutral safety is at the trans or in the colum?
I have tried to get rid of this car for years now in hopes of selling it
for cheap before it breaks down.....but than it breaks down and it is
allways something simple and it runs better than ever.....I haven't even
changed the bloody oil for two years in hopes of killing it. Still runs
like a top.

Harry Face wrote:

Quote:
I'm not really a whiz when it comes to electronics. Especially whe the
electronics have been tampered with - like adding a remote starter.

I'm not sure how a remote starter is hooked up but I'd check the remote
starter connections first of all and make sure there hooked up right &
connections clean & tight..

Good Luck

harryface


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