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Default Cabriolet roof stuck - help please - 10-08-2006 , 09:32 PM






I have a 95 911 cab. Today while trying to lower the roof, the roof
seemed to hang for a second before releasing from the catches. After
finally releasing, the roof would not open or close. It is just
sitting slightly open.

The manual states that the roof can be manually lowered. It says to
unzip the zipper at the rear window and remove the left side cover. I
can not quite figure out what I am supposed to do.

I am confused. When it refers to the left side, is it referring to the
passenger side or the drivers side? Can anyone provide a slightly
better explanation of where to find (or how to get to) the mechanism
for the manual crank.

Also, I assume that the roof stopped working because of the fail safe
on the clutch when the roof was binding. How does one reset this
mechanism so that it will work again?

Thanks for any help.

Bruce

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William Noble
 
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Default Re: Cabriolet roof stuck - help please - 10-11-2006 , 01:54 AM






don't know about 95, on the next series, this failure is usually accompanied
by the need to replace the belden cables that drive the lift mechanism -
your shop manual may be helpful
<bruce (AT) crowninvest (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I have a 95 911 cab. Today while trying to lower the roof, the roof
seemed to hang for a second before releasing from the catches. After
finally releasing, the roof would not open or close. It is just
sitting slightly open.

The manual states that the roof can be manually lowered. It says to
unzip the zipper at the rear window and remove the left side cover. I
can not quite figure out what I am supposed to do.

I am confused. When it refers to the left side, is it referring to the
passenger side or the drivers side? Can anyone provide a slightly
better explanation of where to find (or how to get to) the mechanism
for the manual crank.

Also, I assume that the roof stopped working because of the fail safe
on the clutch when the roof was binding. How does one reset this
mechanism so that it will work again?

Thanks for any help.

Bruce


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Default Re: Cabriolet roof stuck - help please - 10-24-2006 , 10:30 PM



Hi Bruce,

Not sure if you have already fixed this or not, but I have a 95 as
well. This issues is basically poor design. Mine did the same thing.
If the top transmission gets even slightly out of calibration and
starts to pull one side faster than the other, jamming can occur.
There are two plastic caps (one on each side in the rear seat area
near the speaker.) Pop them out, take out your tool kit, get the large
socket which will fit on the nut that can be found in each hole.
loosen about one turn (no need to take off just loosen) you should now
be able to lower top. Once flush with the canopie, you should try to
close the top the normal way (pull ebrake up, press button) this
should lock the top. There are ways of adjusting the cables, but
depending on your mechanical inclination it may be worth it to take it
to your Mechanic or the dealer. Also make sure you have had the
recall done on the canopie locking motors, I had 3 sets fail. One
last thing if the top will not close once it is touching the canopie
the normal way you can use the long flat screw driver in you kit and
manually turn it (hole on each side rt and lft of mirror) to lock the
top in place.

Hope this helps and sorry for taking so long to replay work keeps me
from play sometimes

John

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:54:23 -0700, "William Noble"
<nobody (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
don't know about 95, on the next series, this failure is usually accompanied
by the need to replace the belden cables that drive the lift mechanism -
your shop manual may be helpful
bruce (AT) crowninvest (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:9ocji25lrihcno372qkpjtpcsbsk99qr7o (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
I have a 95 911 cab. Today while trying to lower the roof, the roof
seemed to hang for a second before releasing from the catches. After
finally releasing, the roof would not open or close. It is just
sitting slightly open.

The manual states that the roof can be manually lowered. It says to
unzip the zipper at the rear window and remove the left side cover. I
can not quite figure out what I am supposed to do.

I am confused. When it refers to the left side, is it referring to the
passenger side or the drivers side? Can anyone provide a slightly
better explanation of where to find (or how to get to) the mechanism
for the manual crank.

Also, I assume that the roof stopped working because of the fail safe
on the clutch when the roof was binding. How does one reset this
mechanism so that it will work again?

Thanks for any help.

Bruce

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John
 
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Default Re: Cabriolet roof stuck - help please - 10-24-2006 , 10:32 PM



Hi Bruce,

Not sure if you have already fixed this or not, but I have a 95 as
well. This issues is basically poor design. Mine did the same thing.
If the top transmission gets even slightly out of calibration and
starts to pull one side faster than the other, jamming can occur.
There are two plastic caps (one on each side in the rear seat area
near the speaker.) Pop them out, take out your tool kit, get the large
socket which will fit on the nut that can be found in each hole.
loosen about one turn (no need to take off just loosen) you should now
be able to lower top. Once flush with the canopie, you should try to
close the top the normal way (pull ebrake up, press button) this
should lock the top. There are ways of adjusting the cables, but
depending on your mechanical inclination it may be worth it to take it
to your Mechanic or the dealer. Also make sure you have had the
recall done on the canopie locking motors, I had 3 sets fail. One
last thing if the top will not close once it is touching the canopie
the normal way you can use the long flat screw driver in you kit and
manually turn it (hole on each side rt and lft of mirror) to lock the
top in place.

Hope this helps and sorry for taking so long to replay work keeps me
from play sometimes

John

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:54:23 -0700, "William Noble"
<nobody (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
don't know about 95, on the next series, this failure is usually accompanied
by the need to replace the belden cables that drive the lift mechanism -
your shop manual may be helpful
bruce (AT) crowninvest (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:9ocji25lrihcno372qkpjtpcsbsk99qr7o (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
I have a 95 911 cab. Today while trying to lower the roof, the roof
seemed to hang for a second before releasing from the catches. After
finally releasing, the roof would not open or close. It is just
sitting slightly open.

The manual states that the roof can be manually lowered. It says to
unzip the zipper at the rear window and remove the left side cover. I
can not quite figure out what I am supposed to do.

I am confused. When it refers to the left side, is it referring to the
passenger side or the drivers side? Can anyone provide a slightly
better explanation of where to find (or how to get to) the mechanism
for the manual crank.

Also, I assume that the roof stopped working because of the fail safe
on the clutch when the roof was binding. How does one reset this
mechanism so that it will work again?

Thanks for any help.

Bruce

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Bruce
 
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Default Re: Cabriolet roof stuck - help please - 10-26-2006 , 05:06 PM



John,

Thanks, I finally talked to my service guy and got similar information
(he did not tell me to try the motor after moving the top).
I am sure in doing this I messed up the alignment of the sides and I
had to use the screwdriver to set the locks.

The top is now down and it will be in to the shop shortly.

Of course the manual shows a completely different method which
apparently does not exist on our year vehicle.

I spoke to Porsche when I got the car and was told that the recall had
been done, but otherwise, I can not verify it.

Thanks again for the help,

Bruce

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:32:13 -0400, John
<John (AT) remove-fromspam-computer-central (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:
Hi Bruce,

Not sure if you have already fixed this or not, but I have a 95 as
well. This issues is basically poor design. Mine did the same thing.
If the top transmission gets even slightly out of calibration and
starts to pull one side faster than the other, jamming can occur.
There are two plastic caps (one on each side in the rear seat area
near the speaker.) Pop them out, take out your tool kit, get the large
socket which will fit on the nut that can be found in each hole.
loosen about one turn (no need to take off just loosen) you should now
be able to lower top. Once flush with the canopie, you should try to
close the top the normal way (pull ebrake up, press button) this
should lock the top. There are ways of adjusting the cables, but
depending on your mechanical inclination it may be worth it to take it
to your Mechanic or the dealer. Also make sure you have had the
recall done on the canopie locking motors, I had 3 sets fail. One
last thing if the top will not close once it is touching the canopie
the normal way you can use the long flat screw driver in you kit and
manually turn it (hole on each side rt and lft of mirror) to lock the
top in place.

Hope this helps and sorry for taking so long to replay work keeps me
from play sometimes

John

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:54:23 -0700, "William Noble"
nobody (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote:

don't know about 95, on the next series, this failure is usually accompanied
by the need to replace the belden cables that drive the lift mechanism -
your shop manual may be helpful
bruce (AT) crowninvest (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:9ocji25lrihcno372qkpjtpcsbsk99qr7o (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
I have a 95 911 cab. Today while trying to lower the roof, the roof
seemed to hang for a second before releasing from the catches. After
finally releasing, the roof would not open or close. It is just
sitting slightly open.

The manual states that the roof can be manually lowered. It says to
unzip the zipper at the rear window and remove the left side cover. I
can not quite figure out what I am supposed to do.

I am confused. When it refers to the left side, is it referring to the
passenger side or the drivers side? Can anyone provide a slightly
better explanation of where to find (or how to get to) the mechanism
for the manual crank.

Also, I assume that the roof stopped working because of the fail safe
on the clutch when the roof was binding. How does one reset this
mechanism so that it will work again?

Thanks for any help.

Bruce

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William Noble
 
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Default Re: Cabriolet roof stuck - help please - 10-28-2006 , 02:27 AM



If your car is as john described, then you may wish to look at the procedure
for cable replacement and alignment that I wrote for this situation - it's
on p-car dot com and also on my web site (www.wbnoble.com) if I remember
right - it's not hard and could save you $ that you could then donate to a
good cause. I thought 95 was different from 96-98
"Bruce" <crown (AT) removeme (DOT) interaccess.removemeagain.com> wrote

Quote:
John,

Thanks, I finally talked to my service guy and got similar information
(he did not tell me to try the motor after moving the top).
I am sure in doing this I messed up the alignment of the sides and I
had to use the screwdriver to set the locks.

The top is now down and it will be in to the shop shortly.

Of course the manual shows a completely different method which
apparently does not exist on our year vehicle.

I spoke to Porsche when I got the car and was told that the recall had
been done, but otherwise, I can not verify it.

Thanks again for the help,

Bruce

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:32:13 -0400, John
John (AT) remove-fromspam-computer-central (DOT) net> wrote:

Hi Bruce,

Not sure if you have already fixed this or not, but I have a 95 as
well. This issues is basically poor design. Mine did the same thing.
If the top transmission gets even slightly out of calibration and
starts to pull one side faster than the other, jamming can occur.
There are two plastic caps (one on each side in the rear seat area
near the speaker.) Pop them out, take out your tool kit, get the large
socket which will fit on the nut that can be found in each hole.
loosen about one turn (no need to take off just loosen) you should now
be able to lower top. Once flush with the canopie, you should try to
close the top the normal way (pull ebrake up, press button) this
should lock the top. There are ways of adjusting the cables, but
depending on your mechanical inclination it may be worth it to take it
to your Mechanic or the dealer. Also make sure you have had the
recall done on the canopie locking motors, I had 3 sets fail. One
last thing if the top will not close once it is touching the canopie
the normal way you can use the long flat screw driver in you kit and
manually turn it (hole on each side rt and lft of mirror) to lock the
top in place.

Hope this helps and sorry for taking so long to replay work keeps me
from play sometimes

John

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:54:23 -0700, "William Noble"
nobody (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote:

don't know about 95, on the next series, this failure is usually
accompanied
by the need to replace the belden cables that drive the lift mechanism -
your shop manual may be helpful
bruce (AT) crowninvest (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:9ocji25lrihcno372qkpjtpcsbsk99qr7o (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
I have a 95 911 cab. Today while trying to lower the roof, the roof
seemed to hang for a second before releasing from the catches. After
finally releasing, the roof would not open or close. It is just
sitting slightly open.

The manual states that the roof can be manually lowered. It says to
unzip the zipper at the rear window and remove the left side cover. I
can not quite figure out what I am supposed to do.

I am confused. When it refers to the left side, is it referring to the
passenger side or the drivers side? Can anyone provide a slightly
better explanation of where to find (or how to get to) the mechanism
for the manual crank.

Also, I assume that the roof stopped working because of the fail safe
on the clutch when the roof was binding. How does one reset this
mechanism so that it will work again?

Thanks for any help.

Bruce


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Bruce
 
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Default Re: Cabriolet roof stuck - help please - 10-30-2006 , 05:25 PM



Thanks for the link.

Your photos and diagram seem to be exactly how my Cab is laid out.

Bruce



On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:27:02 -0700, "William Noble"
<nobody (AT) nowhere (DOT) con> wrote:

Quote:
If your car is as john described, then you may wish to look at the procedure
for cable replacement and alignment that I wrote for this situation - it's
on p-car dot com and also on my web site (www.wbnoble.com) if I remember
right - it's not hard and could save you $ that you could then donate to a
good cause. I thought 95 was different from 96-98
"Bruce" <crown (AT) removeme (DOT) interaccess.removemeagain.com> wrote in message
news:hub2k21mqntku4tgvcbler1ee0cghjqhtd (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
John,

Thanks, I finally talked to my service guy and got similar information
(he did not tell me to try the motor after moving the top).
I am sure in doing this I messed up the alignment of the sides and I
had to use the screwdriver to set the locks.

The top is now down and it will be in to the shop shortly.

Of course the manual shows a completely different method which
apparently does not exist on our year vehicle.

I spoke to Porsche when I got the car and was told that the recall had
been done, but otherwise, I can not verify it.

Thanks again for the help,

Bruce

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:32:13 -0400, John
John (AT) remove-fromspam-computer-central (DOT) net> wrote:

Hi Bruce,

Not sure if you have already fixed this or not, but I have a 95 as
well. This issues is basically poor design. Mine did the same thing.
If the top transmission gets even slightly out of calibration and
starts to pull one side faster than the other, jamming can occur.
There are two plastic caps (one on each side in the rear seat area
near the speaker.) Pop them out, take out your tool kit, get the large
socket which will fit on the nut that can be found in each hole.
loosen about one turn (no need to take off just loosen) you should now
be able to lower top. Once flush with the canopie, you should try to
close the top the normal way (pull ebrake up, press button) this
should lock the top. There are ways of adjusting the cables, but
depending on your mechanical inclination it may be worth it to take it
to your Mechanic or the dealer. Also make sure you have had the
recall done on the canopie locking motors, I had 3 sets fail. One
last thing if the top will not close once it is touching the canopie
the normal way you can use the long flat screw driver in you kit and
manually turn it (hole on each side rt and lft of mirror) to lock the
top in place.

Hope this helps and sorry for taking so long to replay work keeps me
from play sometimes

John

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:54:23 -0700, "William Noble"
nobody (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote:

don't know about 95, on the next series, this failure is usually
accompanied
by the need to replace the belden cables that drive the lift mechanism -
your shop manual may be helpful
bruce (AT) crowninvest (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:9ocji25lrihcno372qkpjtpcsbsk99qr7o (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
I have a 95 911 cab. Today while trying to lower the roof, the roof
seemed to hang for a second before releasing from the catches. After
finally releasing, the roof would not open or close. It is just
sitting slightly open.

The manual states that the roof can be manually lowered. It says to
unzip the zipper at the rear window and remove the left side cover. I
can not quite figure out what I am supposed to do.

I am confused. When it refers to the left side, is it referring to the
passenger side or the drivers side? Can anyone provide a slightly
better explanation of where to find (or how to get to) the mechanism
for the manual crank.

Also, I assume that the roof stopped working because of the fail safe
on the clutch when the roof was binding. How does one reset this
mechanism so that it will work again?

Thanks for any help.

Bruce

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