Dave Hinz <DaveHinz (AT) spamcop (DOT) net> writes:

How do the NG and later engines compare to the classic ones?

I know from experience that the classic four-cylinder Saab engines
have very few problems, usually none. It's been my understanding that
the engine design and manufacturer has varied since the classic Saabs,
and I have an unverified yokelish suspicion that the new ones probably
won't match the old quality. If I recall correctly, some models don't
even have Saab's own engines -- please tell me I'm wrong :-)


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"Simo Melenius" <firstname.lastname (AT) iki (DOT) fi-spam> skrev i en meddelelse
news:87acubtaos.fsf (AT) sme (DOT) intra.citec.fi...

If you buy a Saab up until today, you'll get a real Saab 4-cyl. It's first
from the 9-3SS, that it's a co-developed 2-litre engine. Before that, both
the 2,0 and the 2,3 is Saab's own engine. In my opinion, the 2,3 is the best
engine Saab has ever built.

Cheers!

"Henrik B." wrote:
IMO the 2.0 B202 is the best engine.

The 2.3 needed balancer shafts, the 2.0 didn't need them, but got them because
of marketing considerations. The 2.0 is equally massive and strong.

"Johannes H Andersen" <johs (AT) sizefitter (DOT) com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:417CD21C.E22B523F (AT) sizefitter (DOT) com...

I'm talking overall - durability, performance, noise, fuelconsumption a.s.o.

Cheers!

"Henrik B." wrote:
It really depends on what you want, hence two engine sizes or differences
in stroke. Otherwise, the differences are the same... The 2.3 is the main
engine in the US market since they expect larger engines and normally run
automatics. I disagree that there is any difference in durability and
noise.

On 22 Oct 2004 18:35:08 -0700, R. Frist <frist (AT) wvnet (DOT) edu> wrote:

They are? I didn't know that, and I've been driving them for a very
long time. Haven't noticed any particular problem other than that they're
made of steel.

Um, no. The recall you're thinking of is for a new design of lug _bolts_,
for people who switch between alloy rims and steel rims (as in winter tires).
The rust related to this recall is rust on the hubs, which if ignored could
cause the wheel not to seat properly, putting undue stresses on the lug bolts.

I know that applies to the 9-5, not sure about the 9-3's lug bolts. The
replacement is a 2-piece arrangement.

Dave Hinz

With the classic Saabs one was supposed to wait 20 seconds or more for
the bearing to cool. With any turbo one should give it time to wind
down before you shut off the the oil supply. Granted, the turbo
usually will wind down in the time it takes to park but I still think
one should make a conscious effort to not shut down immediately.

"R. Frist" <frist (AT) wvnet (DOT) edu> wrote

I agree, it can only do good, particularly after a "dash home to pick the
kids up in time" type of run! (Clearly once they're on board, dashing
anywhere is simply not on the agenda)


Lets face it; it takes 30 seconds to apply the handbrake, put it in
neutral/park,take off your seatbelt and remove the facia from the horrid non
original equipment stereo many of us have fitted. Why not leave actually
turning the engine off till then?

Al