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Default CV shaft or joint replacement - 01-31-2007 , 12:38 AM






Purchased a 1986 Saab 900 last month. Heard minor clicking at turning
on power. As of today there is clunking and clicking. The driver
side has oily type residue, like it had been sprayed. I have not been
on an oily area that I can remember.

I know the cv joint is bad. I am living in Seattle. Wanting to know
that being I am mechanically inclined on cars, should I replace the
joint or shaft. I have read here that buying and replacing the whole
shaft seems cheaper. I don't understand the 2006 post discussing the
remove/replace. It would appear a $70 driveshaft would not have a
tripod bearing. What additional hardware do I need to purchase? It
would sure be nice to have a Bently manual, but I really need to get
this done as soon and as cheap as possible.

Right now I am just making it road worthy. Any help would be great.


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Default Re: CV shaft or joint replacement - 01-31-2007 , 07:55 AM






On 30 Jan 2007 21:38:05 -0800, asg2307 <dadofpscag (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
I know the cv joint is bad. I am living in Seattle. Wanting to know
that being I am mechanically inclined on cars, should I replace the
joint or shaft. I have read here that buying and replacing the whole
shaft seems cheaper. I don't understand the 2006 post discussing the
remove/replace.
That might have been mine? The initial problem was the NAPA had the
wrong part reference for it, so they gave me a full shaft but with the
wrong tripod on it. Eventually I returned that, took my original into
the local "A1 driveshaft and universal joint rebuilders", and for a
surprisingly low amount and an hour and a half of time, it came back
reground, new bearings, new grease, sandblasted, recoated, and looking
like new. If you have a shop in your area (and Seattle is certainly big
enough to have them) I'd call around and see what they say.

Quote:
It would appear a $70 driveshaft would not have a
tripod bearing. What additional hardware do I need to purchase?
The rebuilt one I got came with a tube of grease and a new hub nut, so
it was all-inclusive. You'll need that socket (37mm maybe? Measure
it before you start all this, trust me on that!), other than that, basic
hand tools. You will get VERY greasy doing this job.

Quote:
Right now I am just making it road worthy. Any help would be great.
Yup. Because when a CV actually _fails_, you go nowhere at all.



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Default Re: CV shaft or joint replacement - 01-31-2007 , 07:12 PM



On Jan 31, 4:55 am, Dave Hinz <DaveH... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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On 30 Jan 2007 21:38:05 -0800, asg2307 <dadofps... (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:

I know the cv joint is bad. I am living in Seattle. Wanting to know
that being I am mechanically inclined on cars, should I replace the
joint or shaft. I have read here that buying and replacing the whole
shaft seems cheaper. I don't understand the 2006 post discussing the
remove/replace.

That might have been mine? The initial problem was the NAPA had the
wrong part reference for it, so they gave me a full shaft but with the
wrong tripod on it. Eventually I returned that, took my original into
the local "A1 driveshaft and universal joint rebuilders", and for a
surprisingly low amount and an hour and a half of time, it came back
reground, new bearings, new grease, sandblasted, recoated, and looking
like new. If you have a shop in your area (and Seattle is certainly big
enough to have them) I'd call around and see what they say.

It would appear a $70 driveshaft would not have a
tripod bearing. What additional hardware do I need to purchase?

The rebuilt one I got came with a tube of grease and a new hub nut, so
it was all-inclusive. You'll need that socket (37mm maybe? Measure
it before you start all this, trust me on that!), other than that, basic
hand tools. You will get VERY greasy doing this job.

Right now I am just making it road worthy. Any help would be great.

Yup. Because when a CV actually _fails_, you go nowhere at all.
So what is with all the extra things to think about, like putting some
sort of wedge before jacking and having to remore a cover(?) before
pulling the whole shaft out. All in all how much did you pay? A
local repair shop says they can repair in an afternoon a used shaft or
joint for $250. I see that doing a joint is going to be at least $100
plus.



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Default Re: CV shaft or joint replacement - 01-31-2007 , 07:18 PM



On 31 Jan 2007 16:12:14 -0800, asg2307 <dadofpscag (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jan 31, 4:55 am, Dave Hinz <DaveH... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Yup. Because when a CV actually _fails_, you go nowhere at all.

So what is with all the extra things to think about, like putting some
sort of wedge before jacking
Ah. That, is just so the a-arm doesn't go too far down with spring
pressure. Chunk of 3/4" thick plywood worked for me.

Quote:
and having to remore a cover(?) before
pulling the whole shaft out.
I can't imagine what that would be.

Quote:
All in all how much did you pay? A
local repair shop says they can repair in an afternoon a used shaft or
joint for $250. I see that doing a joint is going to be at least $100
plus.
I'd rather pay the garage to install a rebuilt one, even if it means
driving the bad shaft to the rebuilder yourself. How about this - find
your local A1 Driveshaft or whatever in the yellow pages, and ask them
if they have a wrench they deal with often. Nothing unique to Saab on
that particular job. 250 bux for a used part which could fail at any
time seems high, but you could probably get a rebuild _and_ installation
for that. The rebuild shop will know someone; they may even do it
themselves.

Let us know what you end up doing so we have more information for the
next guy to ask, please.

Dave Hinz



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Default Re: CV shaft or joint replacement - 01-31-2007 , 07:43 PM



Dave Hinz wrote:
Quote:
On 31 Jan 2007 16:12:14 -0800, asg2307 <dadofpscag (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:
On Jan 31, 4:55 am, Dave Hinz <DaveH... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Yup. Because when a CV actually _fails_, you go nowhere at all.

So what is with all the extra things to think about, like putting some
sort of wedge before jacking

Ah. That, is just so the a-arm doesn't go too far down with spring
pressure. Chunk of 3/4" thick plywood worked for me.

and having to remore a cover(?) before
pulling the whole shaft out.

I can't imagine what that would be.

All in all how much did you pay? A
local repair shop says they can repair in an afternoon a used shaft or
joint for $250. I see that doing a joint is going to be at least $100
plus.

I'd rather pay the garage to install a rebuilt one, even if it means
driving the bad shaft to the rebuilder yourself. How about this - find
your local A1 Driveshaft or whatever in the yellow pages, and ask them
if they have a wrench they deal with often. Nothing unique to Saab on
that particular job. 250 bux for a used part which could fail at any
time seems high, but you could probably get a rebuild _and_ installation
for that. The rebuild shop will know someone; they may even do it
themselves.

Let us know what you end up doing so we have more information for the
next guy to ask, please.

Dave Hinz

The shaft can be separated from the CV joint. It is quite easy really,
a few weeks ago I did it on my 9000 and it is the same setup as on the
900. The minimum the OP needs is a new CV joint + tools.

To the OP. I would not pay good money for a used CV joint + labour to
fit it. If you are asking for additional hardware you may need quite a
lot (I would have large hub-puller, long lever to socket for driveshaft
nut, torque wrench to tighten driveshaft nut, jack, I would like as
spare spring compressors ... and on it goes).

As far as a manual goes ...
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw...0&Go.y=0&Go=Go

or http://mini.dundee.ac.uk/bin/?732707x1

Post again as to what you want to do;-)

Regards
Charles





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