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Default Faulty Outside Air Temp Sensor? - 12-20-2004 , 10:39 AM






It shows cooler by 4-5 degrees, which translates to too warm in the cabin,
too often, when relying on the auto climate control. Now, is that typical,
for a new one too? I just have to live with it?



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Default Re: Faulty Outside Air Temp Sensor? - 12-20-2004 , 11:31 AM






On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:39:15 -0500, Valjean <JValjean (AT) nospamcharter (DOT) net> wrote:
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It shows cooler by 4-5 degrees, which translates to too warm in the cabin,
too often, when relying on the auto climate control.
Can you just turn down the temperature you set your ACC to, by, say, 4
degrees?

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Now, is that typical,
for a new one too? I just have to live with it?
Well, where the sensor is, it might _be_ that temperature. Might depend on
road speed (cooling vs. radiant heat from engine compartment), or a bunch
of other things. I'd sure want it to be right at 32(F) or 0(C), though.
If it's not, maybe there's a calibration that can be made without replacing
anything. What year/model/ACC is this question about?

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Default Re: Faulty Outside Air Temp Sensor? - 12-20-2004 , 03:20 PM



No, it bottoms out at it's own "66"....

Yes to that, and so I'm wondering how accurate it was and is supposed to be.
1994 9000 CS turbo.

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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:39:15 -0500, Valjean <JValjean (AT) nospamcharter (DOT) net
wrote:
It shows cooler by 4-5 degrees, which translates to too warm in the
cabin,
too often, when relying on the auto climate control.

Can you just turn down the temperature you set your ACC to, by, say, 4
degrees?

Now, is that typical,
for a new one too? I just have to live with it?

Well, where the sensor is, it might _be_ that temperature. Might depend
on
road speed (cooling vs. radiant heat from engine compartment), or a bunch
of other things. I'd sure want it to be right at 32(F) or 0(C), though.
If it's not, maybe there's a calibration that can be made without
replacing
anything. What year/model/ACC is this question about?

Dave Hinz




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Default Re: Faulty Outside Air Temp Sensor? - 12-20-2004 , 03:37 PM



On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:20:40 -0500, Valjean <JValjean (AT) nospamcharter (DOT) net> wrote:
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No, it bottoms out at it's own "66"....

Yes to that, and so I'm wondering how accurate it was and is supposed to be.
1994 9000 CS turbo.
Should be dead-on. Going down only to 66 (I assume farenheit?!?!!) is
clearly a, if not the, problem. Anyone know if this is likely to be
sensor or can it be calibrated?



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Default Re: Faulty Outside Air Temp Sensor? - 12-20-2004 , 03:45 PM



Valjean wrote:
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It shows cooler by 4-5 degrees, which translates to too warm in the cabin,
too often, when relying on the auto climate control. Now, is that typical,
for a new one too? I just have to live with it?


Such a small error in the outside sensor should not cause the interior
temperature to go very wrong as the cabin air sensor should have the
largest effect on the temperature control loop and thus limit the
temperature of the air coming into the cabin.

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th


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Default Re: Faulty Outside Air Temp Sensor? - 12-20-2004 , 10:13 PM



How do the two work together, then...

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Valjean wrote:
It shows cooler by 4-5 degrees, which translates to too warm in the
cabin,
too often, when relying on the auto climate control. Now, is that
typical,
for a new one too? I just have to live with it?


Such a small error in the outside sensor should not cause the interior
temperature to go very wrong as the cabin air sensor should have the
largest effect on the temperature control loop and thus limit the
temperature of the air coming into the cabin.

--
th



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Default Re: Faulty Outside Air Temp Sensor? - 12-21-2004 , 02:17 PM



Valjean wrote:

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"th" <someguy (AT) somewhere (DOT) se> wrote in message
news:ZRGxd.124872$dP1.448159 (AT) newsc (DOT) telia.net...

Valjean wrote:

It shows cooler by 4-5 degrees, which translates to too warm in the

cabin,

too often, when relying on the auto climate control. Now, is that

typical,

for a new one too? I just have to live with it?



Such a small error in the outside sensor should not cause the interior
temperature to go very wrong as the cabin air sensor should have the
largest effect on the temperature control loop and thus limit the
temperature of the air coming into the cabin.

How do the two work together, then...

I have no idea about the details of the ACC programming, just by
practical experience of the ACC and other types of similar control
system like house temperature control systems. In the latter case you
allow the indoor sensor to have a much larger influence on the radiator
temperatures that the outdoor sensor, in some cases you may even skip
the outdoor sensor completely.

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th


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Default Re: Faulty Outside Air Temp Sensor? - 12-21-2004 , 03:46 PM



That's such a small difference; in practical terms, the whole thing's
outside...

"th" <someguy (AT) somewhere (DOT) se> wrote

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Valjean wrote:

"th" <someguy (AT) somewhere (DOT) se> wrote in message
news:ZRGxd.124872$dP1.448159 (AT) newsc (DOT) telia.net...

Valjean wrote:

It shows cooler by 4-5 degrees, which translates to too warm in the

cabin,

too often, when relying on the auto climate control. Now, is that

typical,

for a new one too? I just have to live with it?



Such a small error in the outside sensor should not cause the interior
temperature to go very wrong as the cabin air sensor should have the
largest effect on the temperature control loop and thus limit the
temperature of the air coming into the cabin.

How do the two work together, then...

I have no idea about the details of the ACC programming, just by
practical experience of the ACC and other types of similar control
system like house temperature control systems. In the latter case you
allow the indoor sensor to have a much larger influence on the radiator
temperatures that the outdoor sensor, in some cases you may even skip
the outdoor sensor completely.

--
th



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Default Re: Faulty Outside Air Temp Sensor? - 12-25-2004 , 12:32 AM



Dave Hinz wrote:


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Should be dead-on. Going down only to 66 (I assume farenheit?!?!!)
No, you dickhead, it's Kelvin


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Default Re: Faulty Outside Air Temp Sensor? - 12-25-2004 , 10:57 PM



On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 05:32:54 GMT, Yo <yo (AT) here (DOT) net> wrote:
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Dave Hinz wrote:



Should be dead-on. Going down only to 66 (I assume farenheit?!?!!)

No, you dickhead, it's Kelvin
<plonk>. Merry Christmas, and enjoy talking to yourself.

Sheesh.



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