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Gary Fritz
 
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Default Re: Octane ratings.....what's the truth? - 04-23-2007 , 12:38 PM






Dave Hinz <DaveHinz (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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Ahhhh...good feeling's gone.
Sorry Dave. But I lost any good feeling when you insisted other people do
your work for you. You could have spent the time you used to say "show me,
find it for me, I refuse to believe this and I refuse to look for myself"
to find more info than I presented here.


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Default Re: Octane ratings.....what's the truth? - 04-23-2007 , 07:07 PM






On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:38:34 -0000, Gary Fritz <fritzxxx (AT) xxxfrii (DOT) com> wrote:
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Dave Hinz <DaveHinz (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Ahhhh...good feeling's gone.

Sorry Dave. But I lost any good feeling when you insisted other people do
your work for you. You could have spent the time you used to say "show me,
find it for me, I refuse to believe this and I refuse to look for myself"
Try again, Gary. Googling for info on this got me nothing but biased
sites. Which is why I asked the question here. It's funny - you have
confirmed, if nothing else, that the mere act of asking for unbiased
information on the topic, pisses off people like you. I wonder why that
is.



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Default Re: Octane ratings.....what's the truth? - 04-23-2007 , 07:08 PM



On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:59:44 GMT, still me <wheeledBob (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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On 20 Apr 2007 23:37:12 GMT, Dave Hinz <DaveHinz (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Why is it that asking for data elicits such a response from people like
you?

Because people have seen you work before? Because you're expecting
others to do the research for you? Because the very fact that you post
"people like you" tells us where you are going with this?
Then why do you keep nymshifting and crawling out of the killfile?



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Gary Fritz
 
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Default Re: Octane ratings.....what's the truth? - 04-23-2007 , 07:46 PM



Dave Hinz <DaveHinz (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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Try again, Gary. Googling for info on this got me nothing but biased
sites.
*shrug* I googled for the sites I gave you, and found them all in
literally 20 minutes. Of course there are tons of biased sites out there
-- this IS the internet after all :-) -- but there are unbiased sources
too. You just have to look for them.

You do have to be smart about your search terms. Searching for "global
warming" is like searching for "abortion" -- you'll get more flamefests
than information. Search for things like "co2 levels" or "ocean levels"
or "volcano co2" and you'll get much a much better signal-to-noise ratio.

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It's funny - you have confirmed, if nothing else, that the mere act
of asking for unbiased information on the topic, pisses off people
like you. I wonder why that is.
It is not the mere act of acting. It is the attitude with which you ask.

If you always/often get this reaction when you ask for information,
perhaps you should consider the common element in all those situations:
the person doing the asking.

Maybe "people like me" get annoyed with the "I refuse to believe this,
and I refuse to do my own research, so you do it for me, and if you don't
do it for me then it's all rehashed 'ice age' hype" routine.

And maybe "people like me" get a bit nettled when you keep calling us
"people like you." As if you've got some tidy little category of raving
global-warming fanatics who always act a certain way, and of *course* I'm
one of them. (I'm really tempted to ask "Why do 'people like you' do
that, anyway?" but that would be just as bad as what you're doing.)

I've provided unbiased information about this and many other topics on
many forums for many years. When someone is genuinely unaware of how to
start, or genuinely unaware of sources to look for, I'm glad to help.
When someone says "I'm too lazy to look, and I insist you look for me,"
I'm a little less inclined to be helpful.


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Dave Hinz
 
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Default Re: Octane ratings.....what's the truth? - 04-23-2007 , 08:06 PM



On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:46:34 -0000, Gary Fritz <fritzxxx (AT) xxxfrii (DOT) com> wrote:
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Dave Hinz <DaveHinz (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Try again, Gary. Googling for info on this got me nothing but biased
sites.

*shrug* I googled for the sites I gave you, and found them all in
literally 20 minutes. Of course there are tons of biased sites out there
-- this IS the internet after all :-) -- but there are unbiased sources
too. You just have to look for them.

You do have to be smart about your search terms. Searching for "global
warming" is like searching for "abortion" -- you'll get more flamefests
than information. Search for things like "co2 levels" or "ocean levels"
or "volcano co2" and you'll get much a much better signal-to-noise ratio.
See how much easier that would have gone if you'd just done that part?
It wouldn't have occured to me to google for "volcano CO2" for instance.

Quote:
It's funny - you have confirmed, if nothing else, that the mere act
of asking for unbiased information on the topic, pisses off people
like you. I wonder why that is.

It is not the mere act of acting. It is the attitude with which you ask.
Apparently you're reading more in to my words than are being put in
there.

Quote:
If you always/often get this reaction when you ask for information,
perhaps you should consider the common element in all those situations:
the person doing the asking.
It's just this topic and other highly emotional ones, oddly enough.

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Maybe "people like me" get annoyed with the "I refuse to believe this,
and I refuse to do my own research, so you do it for me, and if you don't
do it for me then it's all rehashed 'ice age' hype" routine.
Funny thing about Usenet, Gary, if you don't want to answer a question,
you can ignore it.

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I've provided unbiased information about this and many other topics on
many forums for many years. When someone is genuinely unaware of how to
start, or genuinely unaware of sources to look for, I'm glad to help.
When someone says "I'm too lazy to look, and I insist you look for me,"
I'm a little less inclined to be helpful.
When you put quotation marks around a statement, it as if you are, you
know, quoting them. I never said the quote you are attributing to me.



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Fred W
 
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Default Re: Octane ratings.....what's the truth? - 04-23-2007 , 09:27 PM



Gary Fritz wrote:

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I don't think anyone has any rational explanation for the sudden and
unprecedented (within the last 500k years) spike in CO2, unless it is
caused by human activity.
I think it was caused by termites. There's a freeking lot of them.
Prove me wrong.

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-Fred W


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Fred W
 
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Default Re: Octane ratings.....what's the truth? - 04-23-2007 , 09:31 PM



still me wrote:
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Because people have seen you work before? Because you're expecting
others to do the research for you?
Citing a few web sites hardly qualifies as research. Well, maybe it
does at some colleges... but it isn't. Really.

--
-Fred W


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Fred W
 
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Default Re: Octane ratings.....what's the truth? - 04-23-2007 , 09:34 PM



Gary Fritz wrote:
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Dave Hinz <DaveHinz (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Try again, Gary. Googling for info on this got me nothing but biased
sites.


*shrug* I googled for the sites I gave you, and found them all in
literally 20 minutes. Of course there are tons of biased sites out there
-- this IS the internet after all :-) -- but there are unbiased sources
too. You just have to look for them.
Ah yes. The unbiased ones would be the ones that agree with your
predisposed position?

--
-Fred W


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John
 
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Default Re: Octane ratings.....what's the truth? - 04-23-2007 , 11:41 PM



Quote:
Try again, Gary. Googling for info on this got me nothing but biased
sites.


*shrug* I googled for the sites I gave you, and found them all in
literally 20 minutes. Of course there are tons of biased sites out
there -- this IS the internet after all :-) -- but there are unbiased
sources too. You just have to look for them.

Ah yes. The unbiased ones would be the ones that agree with your
predisposed position?

--
-Fred W
Exactly!




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John
 
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Default Re: Octane ratings.....what's the truth? - 04-23-2007 , 11:44 PM




"Fred W" <malt_hound (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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Gary Fritz wrote:

I don't think anyone has any rational explanation for the sudden and
unprecedented (within the last 500k years) spike in CO2, unless it is
caused by human activity.

I think it was caused by termites. There's a freeking lot of them. Prove
me wrong.

--
-Fred W
Actually, my associates and I have recently applied for Federal funding for
a grant to research that global warming is caused by the flatulence produced
from human vegan diets.




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