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Default Saab 9-5 ignition cassette has failed again - 05-04-2009 , 12:26 AM






The ignition cassette in my 2000 Saab 9-5 has failed for a second time.
When the ignition cassette failed the first time GM insisted that my
car was not covered by the government recall.

Any chance I can get GM to pay for the replace of the ignition cassette
for the second or third time?

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Default Re: Saab 9-5 ignition cassette has failed again - 05-04-2009 , 01:10 AM








anonymous wrote:

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The ignition cassette in my 2000 Saab 9-5 has failed for a second time.
When the ignition cassette failed the first time GM insisted that my
car was not covered by the government recall.

Any chance I can get GM to pay for the replace of the ignition cassette
for the second or third time?
I don't know where you live but some countries have laws that insist that
'goods be fit for purpose' as in the UK for example. Multiple failures of
routine non-service parts suggests they aren't and in the UK I would
contact Trading Standards.

I suspect this is down to GM's lowering of Saab build quality.

Graham




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Default Re: Saab 9-5 ignition cassette has failed again - 05-04-2009 , 01:50 AM



Eeyore wrote:
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anonymous wrote:

The ignition cassette in my 2000 Saab 9-5 has failed for a second time.
When the ignition cassette failed the first time GM insisted that my
car was not covered by the government recall.

Any chance I can get GM to pay for the replace of the ignition cassette
for the second or third time?

I don't know where you live but some countries have laws that insist that
'goods be fit for purpose' as in the UK for example. Multiple failures of
routine non-service parts suggests they aren't and in the UK I would
contact Trading Standards.

I suspect this is down to GM's lowering of Saab build quality.

Graham

I live in California, USA.

Concerning 'goods be fit for purpose': my transmission linkage has failed
in the same way twice and my sun roof has failed in the same manner
three times. I took my car in to get a brake fluid leak fixed five times.

The ignition cassette is different because it is safety related and there
has been a government ordered recall. (at least for some models.) Someone
has recommended a complaint to NHTSA.


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Default Re: Saab 9-5 ignition cassette has failed again - 05-04-2009 , 02:54 AM





anonymous wrote:

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Eeyore wrote:
anonymous wrote:

The ignition cassette in my 2000 Saab 9-5 has failed for a second time.
When the ignition cassette failed the first time GM insisted that my
car was not covered by the government recall.

Any chance I can get GM to pay for the replace of the ignition cassette
for the second or third time?

I don't know where you live but some countries have laws that insist that
'goods be fit for purpose' as in the UK for example. Multiple failures of
routine non-service parts suggests they aren't and in the UK I would
contact Trading Standards.

I suspect this is down to GM's lowering of Saab build quality.

I live in California, USA.
Hot temperatures do seem to play a part in killing DI cassettes.


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Concerning 'goods be fit for purpose': my transmission linkage has failed
in the same way twice and my sun roof has failed in the same manner
three times. I took my car in to get a brake fluid leak fixed five times.
That's GM for you. I had minimal bother with my 9000s concerning anything.


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The ignition cassette is different because it is safety related and there
has been a government ordered recall. (at least for some models.) Someone
has recommended a complaint to NHTSA.
Can't hurt. You'll need the VIN to see if it should have been recalled before.

Graham




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Default Re: Saab 9-5 ignition cassette has failed again - 05-04-2009 , 04:16 AM





anonymous wrote:
Quote:
The ignition cassette in my 2000 Saab 9-5 has failed for a second time.
When the ignition cassette failed the first time GM insisted that my
car was not covered by the government recall.

Any chance I can get GM to pay for the replace of the ignition cassette
for the second or third time?
How many miles did you get out of it?


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Default Re: Saab 9-5 ignition cassette has failed again - 05-06-2009 , 07:54 AM





me wrote:

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Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

I live in California, USA.

Hot temperatures do seem to play a part in killing DI cassettes.

I don;t know about that. I'm on the East Coast of the USA and DI
failures are very common here too. I think the issue is the temps on
top of the engine baking the components. I know of several cars with
DI type systems and most all have issues with these components (Saab,
Nissan, Audi, BMW).
I guess I was just lucky then, although UK temps tend not to be as
extreme as yours.

One thing for sure ( speaking as an electronics consultant ) it could be
fixed very easily by suitable component ratings. Silicon semiconductors
will tolerate up to 200C working temp.

Graham




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Default Re: Saab 9-5 ignition cassette has failed again - 05-06-2009 , 01:54 PM





Eeyore wrote:
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me wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

I live in California, USA.

Hot temperatures do seem to play a part in killing DI cassettes.

I don;t know about that. I'm on the East Coast of the USA and DI
failures are very common here too. I think the issue is the temps on
top of the engine baking the components. I know of several cars with
DI type systems and most all have issues with these components (Saab,
Nissan, Audi, BMW).

I guess I was just lucky then, although UK temps tend not to be as
extreme as yours.

One thing for sure ( speaking as an electronics consultant ) it could be
fixed very easily by suitable component ratings. Silicon semiconductors
will tolerate up to 200C working temp.
It's the coils which get shaken about. Eventually the chafing and heat
will short circuit some windings. I took mine apart and one coil was clearly
burned. You can even diagnose a failed DI by sniffing around it. It has a
very characteristic smell. But expect it to last 60k miles or more.


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Default Re: Saab 9-5 ignition cassette has failed again - 06-01-2009 , 04:15 PM



"anonymous" <anonymous (AT) unknown (DOT) com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:5euLl.16006$pr6.11824 (AT) flpi149 (DOT) ffdc.sbc.com...
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The ignition cassette in my 2000 Saab 9-5 has failed for a second time.
When the ignition cassette failed the first time GM insisted that my
car was not covered by the government recall.
Which type of sparkplugs do you use - brand and model?
Using the wrong kind can fry a DI-cassette in no time...

Quote:
Any chance I can get GM to pay for the replace of the ignition cassette
for the second or third time?
Isn't there any new sparepart warranty?

--
http://www.saabklub.dk/



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Default Re: Saab 9-5 ignition cassette has failed again - 11-09-2009 , 06:25 AM



try going to elkparts.com


"Henrik B." <saab (AT) _nospam_tdcadsl (DOT) dk> wrote

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"anonymous" <anonymous (AT) unknown (DOT) com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:5euLl.16006$pr6.11824 (AT) flpi149 (DOT) ffdc.sbc.com...
The ignition cassette in my 2000 Saab 9-5 has failed for a second time.
When the ignition cassette failed the first time GM insisted that my
car was not covered by the government recall.

Which type of sparkplugs do you use - brand and model?
Using the wrong kind can fry a DI-cassette in no time...

Any chance I can get GM to pay for the replace of the ignition cassette
for the second or third time?

Isn't there any new sparepart warranty?

--
http://www.saabklub.dk/

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