]6, 2008, 2:23pm From:
] scharf.steven (AT) geemail (DOT) com (SMS)

]There are still some people doing 3000 mile oil
] changes too.

Thanks for reminding me about that! For years and years Saturn Dealers
swore by the 3000 mile oil change for Saturns even though the Manual
said 7500. Now within the past two years the dealers have gone to 5000
mile oil changes. So I guess all of those years they were wrong about
those 3000 mile oil changes. How do I get ny "Rebate" for 10 years of
totaly unnessesary Oil Changes? LOL

In article <bY3Uj.13502$GE1.2146 (AT) nlpi061 (DOT) nbdc.sbc.com>,
scharf.steven (AT) geemail (DOT) com says...


I stopped reading his crap post right there.

WGRG3 (AT) webtv (DOT) net wrote:
Actually on the older Saturns there were two very good reasons for 3000
mile oil changes. First, there was a tendency for varnish to form in the
timing chain tensioner bore causing timing chain problems, and more
frequent oil changes helped prevent this problem from occurring. Second,
the early Saturn engines tended to use a lot of oil, and the 3000 mile
oil changes were a way of helping ensure that the oil level didn't fall
too low on the vehicles where the owner never checked the oil. If you
burned a quart every 1000 miles, after 3000 miles the oil would be low,
but not critically low to the point of causing engine damage.

WGRG3 (AT) webtv (DOT) net wrote:
Is there some specific problem that you're having with the engine that
makes you believe that you need an additive? Chevron and all other name
brand (and most no-name) gasolines already have detergent additives to
prevent fuel system problems. It won't hurt anything to use these
products, but they won't make your fuel system any cleaner than it is
now. It's about as useful as those engine overhaul pellets that J.C.
Whitney used to sell.

DLR wrote:

The marketing machines at retail end have to work non-stop to create the
illusion of one gasoline being better than another, at least in the
states that have very high minimum standards. In Northern California,
Arco, which is the cheapest name brand gasoline, gets their fuel from
the Shell refinery (they have no refinery in this area) yet Shell
charges significantly more. Chevron touts its Techron additive as being
something unique, which it isn't, and also is premium priced. Costco is
usually the cheapest gasoline, plus they take credit cards (Amex) plus
they give 3% or 5% in rebates on gasoline on the card (no matter where
you purchase it, though there are a couple of exceptions such as other
warehouse stores).