Off to car heaven

#11

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote

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Really? That may be your opinion but if that was the case, why did GM
sell almost three times as many vehicles up until 2007 and its stock price
split three times since 1965? LOL

But is worth less than 1940 today.

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"me" <noemail (AT) nothere (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:46:15 +0100 (CET), Dave U. Random
anonymous (AT) anonymitaet-im-inter (DOT) net> wrote:

Whatever your feelings about Hummers, General Motors or
cars in general, it's an astounding fall.

Not so astounding if you paid any attention to the total mismanagement
that has been going on there since the 1970's. More like "inevitable"

#12

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:48:14 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" <esp (AT) snet (DOT) net>
wrote:

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"80 Knight" <nospam> wrote in message
Actually, GM only markets and distributes the Hummer's. AM General still
builds them for GM. As for them being Sissy's, you obviously haven't
taken one off roading.

Correct. I'd not want to be seen in one of the ugly beasts. I think it is
worse than being seen in a Honda Element and that is BAD.

Has anyone every taken one off road? The only ones I see are taken to the
mall or to the grocery store for a loaf of bread.

Are you off road where you might see them?

If you only go to the mall or grocery store, then that's where you'll
see them.
I see them occasionally - I don't go off road - but don't really pay
attention to them, except to think they should pay extra taxes for
boosting my gas price.
Real "car guys" ala Nate should be interested in them.
They *are* different for sure. Like Porsches.
Different uses, of course.

--Vic

#13

"Dave U. Random" wrote:

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Moneyblog http://is.gd/jYqP

Say goodbye to Saturn. And Saab and Hummer, for that
matter. Pontiac, too, for all intents and purposes.

Curious that they should wish to rid themselves of 2 of their most
promising (and best styled IMHO ) lines ( Hummer excluded ).

When will the Americans ever learn ?

2 Saturn models are already effectively Opels ( except they insist on
putting bigger engines in them plus slush boxes ) and fuel efficient
along with the Saabs.

Let's hope Investor AB will take a bigger interest, or even Scania step
in ?

Graham

#14

me wrote:

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On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:46:15 +0100 (CET), Dave U. Random
anonymous (AT) anonymitaet-im-inter (DOT) net> wrote:

Whatever your feelings about Hummers, General Motors or
cars in general, it's an astounding fall.

Not so astounding if you paid any attention to the total mismanagement
that has been going on there since the 1970's. More like "inevitable"

Yup, they turned Saabs from virtually unbreakable to 'ordinary'.

Graham

#15

"Ed Pawlowski" <esp (AT) snet (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

"80 Knight" <nospam> wrote in message
Actually, GM only markets and distributes the Hummer's. AM General still
builds them for GM. As for them being Sissy's, you obviously haven't
taken one off roading.

Correct. I'd not want to be seen in one of the ugly beasts. I think it is
worse than being seen in a Honda Element and that is BAD.

Appearance is a personal preference. You don't like them, and that's fine.
I do.

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Has anyone every taken one off road? The only ones I see are taken to the
mall or to the grocery store for a loaf of bread.

I've seen Cobalt's mudding, but it doesn't mean they all do.

#16

Perhaps that is because you never go off road in you ten year old Corolla.
LOL

"Ed Pawlowski" <esp (AT) snet (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

"80 Knight" <nospam> wrote in message
Actually, GM only markets and distributes the Hummer's. AM General still
builds them for GM. As for them being Sissy's, you obviously haven't
taken one off roading.

Correct. I'd not want to be seen in one of the ugly beasts. I think it is
worse than being seen in a Honda Element and that is BAD.

Has anyone every taken one off road? The only ones I see are taken to the
mall or to the grocery store for a loaf of bread.

#17

Perhaps but what does that have to do with your opinion that the
mismanagement was going on since the 1970's?

"Canuck57" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote

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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote in message
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Really? That may be your opinion but if that was the case, why did GM
sell almost three times as many vehicles up until 2007 and its stock
price split three times since 1965? LOL

But is worth less than 1940 today.

"me" <noemail (AT) nothere (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:cjjup4pf33vjj5ctsiuchgrud71dfo0t29 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:46:15 +0100 (CET), Dave U. Random
anonymous (AT) anonymitaet-im-inter (DOT) net> wrote:

Whatever your feelings about Hummers, General Motors or
cars in general, it's an astounding fall.

Not so astounding if you paid any attention to the total mismanagement
that has been going on there since the 1970's. More like "inevitable"

#18

Perhaps but GM sold ten times as many in the US LOL

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

me wrote:

On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:46:15 +0100 (CET), Dave U. Random
anonymous (AT) anonymitaet-im-inter (DOT) net> wrote:

Whatever your feelings about Hummers, General Motors or
cars in general, it's an astounding fall.

Not so astounding if you paid any attention to the total mismanagement
that has been going on there since the 1970's. More like "inevitable"

Yup, they turned Saabs from virtually unbreakable to 'ordinary'.

Graham