Re: If Saturn goes, I will NEVER buy another GM car

#1

On Apr 27, 12:42*pm, Usenet User <liberalsrc... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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I expect GM to survive in one form or another. But if GM drops or stops
the Saturn brand, I am done with GM cars and so is the rest of the
family. We have been loyal Saturn car owners and have found them
superior and different than other GM cars. We have owned six Saturn
vehicles over the years having bought two last year. If Saturn goes, so
will our GM loyalty. In other words GM, you orphan me, then I will
orphan you. I knew that idiot Obama would screw this up. Only his
inexperience could take a bad situation and make it worse.

if they were so good, then explain why you needed to buy so many
saturns ?

#2

GM has killed Saturn, not Obama.

Chris
'92 SL1
'00 SL1

#3

Usenet User wrote:

Quote:

I expect GM to survive in one form or another. But if GM drops or stops
the Saturn brand, I am done with GM cars and so is the rest of the
family. We have been loyal Saturn car owners and have found them
superior and different than other GM cars. We have owned six Saturn
vehicles over the years having bought two last year. If Saturn goes, so
will our GM loyalty. In other words GM, you orphan me, then I will
orphan you. I knew that idiot Obama would screw this up. Only his
inexperience could take a bad situation and make it worse.

Uh, GM made the decision to drop the brands that were the least
profitable. After GM dumped hundreds of millions of dollars into a
failed brand you expected the government to encourage them to dump
billions more into a failed brand. Let it go.

It is rather surprising that GM dumped the Pontiac brand since it's the
third best selling brand, and they're keeping Buick which is sixth. But
perhaps Buick (and Cadillac) sales, despite fewer units, are more
profitable.

Hopefully the new GM will decide that it should be quality and
engineering that sells vehicles rather than marketing gimmicks like
no-haggle sales and polymer panels.

#4

"SMS" <scharf.steven (AT) geemail (DOT) com> wrote

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Usenet User wrote:

It is rather surprising that GM dumped the Pontiac brand since it's the
third best selling brand, and they're keeping Buick which is sixth. But
perhaps Buick (and Cadillac) sales, despite fewer units, are more
profitable.

I think the reason for the choices are pretty logical. Chevy, for the low
end/cost, Buick for the Mid-range and Cadillac for the upper, with GMC
rebadged selected sampling versions from the 3 for optional/upper trim
levels. Pontiac seems like it was kind of that mish-mosh of selections and
loyalty that did not really have a concrete hold on customers. In addition,
the brand fit in-between Chevy's low and Buick's mid-level offering, so
killing it seems to make sense.

As far as Saturn, in my opinion they drifted from the original concept of
what it was supposed to be years ago and killed what made Saturn a Saturn.
They also took too long to develop a follow up car to their original success
of the S-series. Getting rid of the polymer sides and going with rebadged
Opel's in my opinion was the killer for me. My '06 Vue was my first and
last GM product...

IYM

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#5

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As far as Saturn, in my opinion they drifted from the original concept of
what it was supposed to be years ago and killed what made Saturn a Saturn.
They also took too long to develop a follow up car to their original
success of the S-series. Getting rid of the polymer sides and going with
rebadged Opel's in my opinion was the killer for me. My '06 Vue was my
first and last GM product...

Correction: My '06 Vue was my first "new" GM vehicle. I bought a used '94
SL2 in '01 that I put 100k miles on, and traded it for the Vue when it had
205k miles on it due to another family addition. (I needed something with
more room). It was my success with that SL2 that convinced me to buy
another Saturn product....

#6

Usenet User wrote:

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Now it's time to move forward. With 60 votes in the senate, Obama can
begin the arduous task of restoring America to greatness. In just 100
days he’s already taken steps to fix the military, fix the intelligence
services, restore the moral authority of the U.S., undo the disastrous
environmental policies of George W. Bush and the neo-cons, fix the
economic mess that George W. Bush, Reagan, and the neo-cons got us into,
and begin the long process of fixing our health care system.

When Reagan and George W. Bush were president it was party time. Spend,
spend, spend, and go on reckless military adventures without looking at
the big picture. It was great fun, and everyone enjoyed the party so
much that they forget that the bill eventually comes due. It’ll take
more than just eight years for Obama to undo all the damage the
Republicans have wrought on our great country.

The only concern is that eight years may not be enough for Obama to
complete the task. One thing we should immediately begin working on is
the repeal of the 22nd amendment of the constitution so Obama can serve
more than just eight years. He’s still a young man after all. Changing
the term limit to four terms would be appropriate given the damage that
the Republicans have done to the country and the time that will be
needed to undo the damage.

#7

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:46:01 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven (AT) geemail (DOT) com> wrote:

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The only concern is that eight years may not be enough for Obama to
complete the task. One thing we should immediately begin working on is
the repeal of the 22nd amendment of the constitution so Obama can serve
more than just eight years. Heâ€™s still a young man after all. Changing
the term limit to four terms would be appropriate given the damage that
the Republicans have done to the country and the time that will be
needed to undo the damage.

I suggest we go one step further, change the constitution and install Obama as
Emperor of USA. All our problems will be over. Are we that stupid?