Re: more Saturn ~

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In article <OTnOj.4420$vF.2300 (AT) newssvr21 (DOT) news.prodigy.net>,
scharf.steven (AT) geemail (DOT) com says...

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Timing chain replacement is often neglected because there is no fixed
service interval for replacement. It's a wear item, and a lot of owners
have gotten in trouble by neglecting the chain (and related tensioning
components), often because the "life of the car" timing chain story was
presented to them at the time of purchase and they actually believed it.

Distortion #1. Consumers seldom even know what their vehicle has. No one
can cite a dealer ever telling them that. Once again Scharf pulls
fantasies out of his ass.

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Combine this with the personal anecdotes of 200K miles on a chain, and
it's a recipe for disaster (a large percentage of vehicle owners could
also get 200K miles from a belt, but is it worth the risk?).

More like the anecdotes of Scharfy boy.

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If you ask a dealer's service department or independent mechanic whether
the chain needs replacement, the owner is likely to get an affirmative
answer because a) if they say no and the chain breaks or slips soon
after the owner inquires about it then the owner will claim that they're
liable, b) they want the money from the repair job, or c) the chain
really needs replacing.

And when they do they come on here and bitch about an upsale and then
you and trolls like you perpetuate this information as a "bad
experience"...

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Chains versus belts is one area where I'm not a retro-grouch. The reason
for going to belts is a) they're quieter, b) they're more suitable for
longer runs than are the norm on newer engines,

Yes thats why I've seen belts fail with 30k-60k miles on these "newer
engines". Clearly you never worked in a car shop.

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c) it's easy and
inexpensive to replace them on a routine basis,

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Often cost the same if not more. You doubt me?
Simply research the NSX. The cost and effort of replacing a S-series
saturn timing chain is on par with the timing belt replacement of most 4
cylinder Hondas or Toyotas. I speak from 1st hand experience, do you?

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d) they're more
reliable, and of course

And of course you're still wrong.

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e) they're less costly for the manufacturer.

Yes thats what I want... Manufactures going the 'cheap' route.

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Re: more Saturn ~ - 04-19-2008 , 10:57 AM