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Default Re: Saturn gone? - 02-18-2009 , 09:47 PM







"David T. Johnson" <djohnson (AT) isomedia (DOT) com> wrote in message
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The original Saturn S-cars introduced in 1991 were amazingly good cars
considering that they were entirely new and designed and built from the
ground up in a new plant with an entirely new engine. Imagine what would
have happened if GM had not killed off the Saturn Division and the Saturn
manufacturing plant but had stuck with the plan and updated and improved
the original cars? It's hard to have any sympathy for such a mindlessly
stupid and wasteful company as GM is.

I agree,
I often think about how good a 3rd generation S series could have been.
IMHO the S platform would have been a natural for a small TDI diesel. This
would have been a fuel miser and available in a great SW body. GM?
complained that the Saturn division never turned a profit, but IMHO they
should have given the S series (and especially the SW1) a longer production
run to better amortize and lower unit costs. Did we really need ANOTHER
SUV?

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Default Re: Saturn gone? - 02-19-2009 , 01:41 PM







"HomerH" <homerhawgsnot (AT) 123 (DOT) org> wrote

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somebody <someone (AT) somewhere (DOT) com> wrote in
news:0qhmp45d6iavmgakeha0ppgjvab999n2da (AT) 4ax (DOT) com:

http://jalopnik.com/5155377/gm-to-officially-kill-saturn-brand-most-of-
pontiac

Our sources tell us GM's viability plan set to be released at 5:00PM
will kill the Saturn brand by 2011. Pontiac will also go away as a
division. But the nameplate will sorta live on.

So basically, what we've heard is the brand meant to compete against
the foreign brands is dead - Saturn goes away in 2011. There will be
no new products for Saturn and Saturn dealers are getting a video from
Mark LeNeve at 5:00 PM to inform them. We're thinking Mark should cut
a check to send with it. As far as Pontiac, it goes away as a
division. The nameplate will live on on some vehicles - but we've got
no idea what "niche products" they're talking about. More coming
shortly.

So I wonder what us current Saturn owners will do for service/parts in
the future? I also assume our resale value will be zilch as well.

I should have paid attention to those hairs on my back when I signed on
to give GM one more chance and bought this car...;-[

I'm glad I have a '06 Vue with 76K already...I figure I'll be ready to look
at cars again in 3 years and by that time my resale will be for crap anyway.
I don't know who the heck in thier right mind is going to buy a 2012 Saturn,
when the dealer will be waiting for you to leave so they can lock the doors.
I'm sure GM will announce the other dealers who will be authorized to
service them, but still.......

IYM




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Default Re: Saturn gone? - 02-19-2009 , 06:51 PM



On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:46:44 GMT, HomerH <homerhawgsnot (AT) 123 (DOT) org>
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somebody <someone (AT) somewhere (DOT) com> wrote in
news:0qhmp45d6iavmgakeha0ppgjvab999n2da (AT) 4ax (DOT) com:


So I wonder what us current Saturn owners will do for service/parts in
the future? I also assume our resale value will be zilch as well.

I should have paid attention to those hairs on my back when I signed on
to give GM one more chance and bought this car...;-[
Resale value? What is that?

I currently drive an '02 SL purchased in late '01. The same Saturn
dealer that sold me the car invited me back to the dealership in the
fall of 2006 to attend the debut of the Aura. I was impressed by the
Aura. So I asked the salesman how much I would get for my '02 SL on a
trade-in. He told me ZERO.

I reminded him that I bought the car from same dealership (everyone at
the debut event were past customers). He said ZERO again. I'm
thinking, "not even $100 as a token of appreciation for my past
business and potentially more business??"

So, today, I still drive the '02 SL as it continues to run fine and I
figure it will easily last me another 5 years. GM had the idea to get
its past customers into the showroom to do some impulse buying. But
its lousy dealer's attitude just killed it.

I think I'll drive by this weekend to ask how much trade-in value I
would get for my '02 SL. I hope that salesman hasn't lost his job
yet.





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Default Re: Saturn gone? - 02-19-2009 , 08:10 PM



In article <0qhmp45d6iavmgakeha0ppgjvab999n2da (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
someone (AT) somewhere (DOT) com says...
Quote:
http://jalopnik.com/5155377/gm-to-officially-kill-saturn-brand-most-of-pontiac

Our sources tell us GM's viability plan set to be released at 5:00PM
will kill the Saturn brand by 2011. Pontiac will also go away as a
division. But the nameplate will sorta live on.
Guess this means that the Saturn Sky Redline should get cheaper - I was
thinking of buying 2 of them this summer, one in Yellow and one in
Black, so here is hoping they get cheaper.

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Default Re: Saturn gone? - 02-19-2009 , 08:45 PM



It will be interesting to see what GM will have to pay out to buy out the
dealer contracts. I suspect the 2011 date has to do with renewal dates.

I remember when they dropped Olds. I seem to recall them paying nearly 1
billion in contract termination penalties to the dealers.




"IYM" <s u N risr (AT) optonline (DOT) net> wrote

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"HomerH" <homerhawgsnot (AT) 123 (DOT) org> wrote in message
news:E51nl.243321$XA2.121509 (AT) fe02 (DOT) news.easynews.com...
somebody <someone (AT) somewhere (DOT) com> wrote in
news:0qhmp45d6iavmgakeha0ppgjvab999n2da (AT) 4ax (DOT) com:

http://jalopnik.com/5155377/gm-to-officially-kill-saturn-brand-most-of-
pontiac

Our sources tell us GM's viability plan set to be released at 5:00PM
will kill the Saturn brand by 2011. Pontiac will also go away as a
division. But the nameplate will sorta live on.

So basically, what we've heard is the brand meant to compete against
the foreign brands is dead - Saturn goes away in 2011. There will be
no new products for Saturn and Saturn dealers are getting a video from
Mark LeNeve at 5:00 PM to inform them. We're thinking Mark should cut
a check to send with it. As far as Pontiac, it goes away as a
division. The nameplate will live on on some vehicles - but we've got
no idea what "niche products" they're talking about. More coming
shortly.

So I wonder what us current Saturn owners will do for service/parts in
the future? I also assume our resale value will be zilch as well.

I should have paid attention to those hairs on my back when I signed on
to give GM one more chance and bought this car...;-[


I'm glad I have a '06 Vue with 76K already...I figure I'll be ready to
look at cars again in 3 years and by that time my resale will be for crap
anyway. I don't know who the heck in thier right mind is going to buy a
2012 Saturn, when the dealer will be waiting for you to leave so they can
lock the doors. I'm sure GM will announce the other dealers who will be
authorized to service them, but still.......

IYM



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