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"Bonehenge" <DwightSchrute (AT) DunderMifflin (DOT) com> wrote in message news:8hinr257da6lbvs6doqfidvatlk2ob12o9 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 21:49:33 GMT, "M.J." <M.J. (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: How come Volvo can claim they have full time AWD even though primarely only two wheels are powered? The same way Subaru does? If you look carefully at the video it appears, not definite, but it appears to me that the Subaru is a manual transmission car- the guy looks for a brief moment to be shifting a manual gear. If this were the case the the Subaru would have had a 50/50 torque split between front and rear wheels. The Volvo is 95/5 making it practically a FWD car. Not very good comparison. This video cannot be judged without hearing and understanding the commentary. M.J. |
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The Volvo is 95/5 making it practically a FWD car.The XC70 Cross Country comes in both FWD and AWD guises, and that one is clearly a FWD model as you originally stated, not a part time AWD. If it was one of the AWD versions it wouldn't stand there with the back wheels doing nothing once the fronts were spinning... |
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confuse this with the Haldex system used from 2003 (the car was at the same time renamed to XC70) - the two are like night and day. The Haldex is used both in Volvo and Ford Freestyle. For more technical info see the Haldex website:www.haldex-traction.com. Strange how these old videos can pop up every now and then and every time be misunderstood. Is it done deliberatly, are do people just assume what they want to assume??? |
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"M.J." <M.J. (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:n3Quh.27479$sR.21584 (AT) newssvr29 (DOT) news.prodigy.net... "Bonehenge" <DwightSchrute (AT) DunderMifflin (DOT) com> wrote in message news:8hinr257da6lbvs6doqfidvatlk2ob12o9 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 21:49:33 GMT, "M.J." <M.J. (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: How come Volvo can claim they have full time AWD even though primarely only two wheels are powered? The same way Subaru does? If you look carefully at the video it appears, not definite, but it appears to me that the Subaru is a manual transmission car- the guy looks for a brief moment to be shifting a manual gear. If this were the case the the Subaru would have had a 50/50 torque split between front and rear wheels. The Volvo is 95/5 making it practically a FWD car. Not very good comparison. This video cannot be judged without hearing and understanding the commentary. M.J. As the Subaru drives up the hill the commentator says that the Subaru has a full time four wheel drive with a 50/50 split. Before he tries to drive the Volvo up the hill, he states that both cars are automatic and have the exact same tires. Before he tries the Volvo a second time, he says that Volvo claims they have to apply more throttle, and as the Volvo fails again, the commentator says that the Volvo has a 95/5 split and that the rear should get more when the front is slipping. CE |
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As a swede (therfore being able to understad what is said in the movie) I can confirm that the Volvo in the clip is a V70XC, meaning it is 2002 or earlier and has the old viscous (passive) coupling. Don't confuse this with the Haldex system used from 2003 (the car was at the same time renamed to XC70) - the two are like night and day. The Haldex is used both in Volvo and Ford Freestyle. For more technical info see the Haldex website: www.haldex-traction.com. |
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Strange how these old videos can pop up every now and then and every time be misunderstood. Is it done deliberatly, are do people just assume what they want to assume??? |
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staffann wrote: As a swede (therfore being able to understad what is said in the movie) I can confirm that the Volvo in the clip is a V70XC, meaning it is 2002 or earlier and has the old viscous (passive) coupling. Don't confuse this with the Haldex system used from 2003 (the car was at the same time renamed to XC70) - the two are like night and day. The Haldex is used both in Volvo and Ford Freestyle. For more technical info see the Haldex website: www.haldex-traction.com. I was unable to find anything at this website that explains the different AWD systems on each of the cars that use Haldex. So which AWD system does the newer Volvo use and where can we find any specs. I find it interesting that Haldex claims you can have different sized tires and not damage their AWD system. Strange how these old videos can pop up every now and then and every time be misunderstood. Is it done deliberatly, are do people just assume what they want to assume??? |
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staffann wrote: As a swede (therfore being able to understad what is said in the movie) I can confirm that the Volvo in the clip is a V70XC, meaning it is 2002 or earlier and has the old viscous (passive) coupling. Don't confuse this with the Haldex system used from 2003 (the car was at the same time renamed to XC70) - the two are like night and day. The Haldex is used both in Volvo and Ford Freestyle. For more technical info see the Haldex website:www.haldex-traction.com. I was unable to find anything at this website that explains the different AWD systems on each of the cars that use Haldex. So which AWD system does the newer Volvo use and where can we find any specs. I find it interesting that Haldex claims you can have different sized tires and not damage their AWD system. That's because it's an awd-on-demand crap with 60ms activation time: |
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