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Re: Nutty Subie Owners -
12-18-2006
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strchild wrote: I do have to ask - how does one apply HP improperly to do the damage to the transmission that was stated?  |
before the gears are fully engaged. I know it's hard for us, who know how to
drive, to imagine, but I've seen it done. I once saw a guy destroy an Aston
Martin clutch within less than a week after buying the car new.
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and am familiar with hi-perf cars .... I do have to ask - how does one apply HP improperly to do the damage to the transmission that was stated? |
Well... I'd think your statement in the first line SHOULD help you
figure out the answer to the question in the other one...
But just in case it doesn't, the first scenario that comes to mind
involves a missed full throttle "power shift", a popped clutch, and a
sound best described as "BAM!" There are others, but I've got work to do
instead of write a treatise on the many ways an idjit can blow up a
gearbox.
Boy shoulda used that Uncle Scotty's Cocktail sauce stuff--betcha THAT
woulda saved those gears, eh?
Rick
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Rick Courtright wrote: bigjim (AT) backpacker (DOT) com wrote: The sti is marketed as a high performance "race" type car. For the price the components should be of high quality. Hi, Operative terms: "marketed as" and "'race' type" car. NOTE the "type." Reference it to "marketed AS" (emphasis added.) Operative concepts: "Marketing" is hype to sell a product. Period. And REAL "race" cars break stuff. It matters not the supposed "quality" level of parts involved, they break. Period. Now lets add a bit of improper treatment to a "'race' type" car: we need a license to drive a car. We don't need to be checked out in a particular vehicle to drive it. Pilots need a license to fly. They ALSO need to be checked out in the type of aircraft they want to fly, before they're allowed to fly it solo. Methinks if that procedure were applied to automobile drivers, there would be a VERY high failure rate. To which I would add... It's probably possible to destroy a Formula One transmission in a few seconds in the hands of an unskilled driver. The more power a driver gets, the more careful and better trained they have to be to not abuse it. |
drivers. An STI has 'close' to the performance of a 'vette at 'nearly'
1/2 the cost - makes it affordable for kids (or their dads) as a first
car (stupid IMHO)Plus, there's the additional strain of AWD resisting
any release of drive train force with tire slippage/scratch.
I suppose Soob could have a part or 2 get through to assembly with a
fault once in awhile as well.
I dunno
Carl
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but for an OEM gearbox to fail like that hooked up to a stock engine... |
This whole situation was best described by a mechanic I worked with in
high school/college days: "There ARE people who could screw up an anvil
with a rubber mallet."
'Nuff said?
Rick
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Rick Courtright wrote: bigjim (AT) backpacker (DOT) com wrote: The sti is marketed as a high performance "race" type car. For the price the components should be of high quality. Hi, Operative terms: "marketed as" and "'race' type" car. NOTE the "type." Reference it to "marketed AS" (emphasis added.) Operative concepts: "Marketing" is hype to sell a product. Period. And REAL "race" cars break stuff. It matters not the supposed "quality" level of parts involved, they break. Period. Now lets add a bit of improper treatment to a "'race' type" car: we need a license to drive a car. We don't need to be checked out in a particular vehicle to drive it. Pilots need a license to fly. They ALSO need to be checked out in the type of aircraft they want to fly, before they're allowed to fly it solo. Methinks if that procedure were applied to automobile drivers, there would be a VERY high failure rate. Rick C'mon... if you sell a car with 300hp, the trans should be able to handle 300hp properly applied without grenading. |
design. I've even heard a rumor that Subaru paid BMW to design
it and hand them over the blueprints and parts specs.
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Was at a Subie dealer buying a new cat-back exhaust to replace the original on my 98 Outback. Lying on the parts counter were parts of a WRX transmission including the layshaft, idler gear and 3rd and 4th gears. They were stripped almost smooth through nearly 180 degrees, obviously the result of violently incompetent shifting by a wannabe boy racer. Story: the car is only four months old, and the kid wants a warrantee repair of the tranny. We had a nice laugh over it. |
We agreed to pay 1/3; Subaru paying 1/3 and the kid paying 1/3 as a goodwill
gesture. Then the kid says "Imp going to have a private mech repair it; can
I just have the money?" We all agree that there was only one thing to cause
the gear to get stripped this hard and the repair offer wasn't a Settlement.
Anyway we did fix the car and I just found out it's back; won't go into
first gear now (been over a month) so either the tech did something wrong or
he broke it again
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Stephen W. Hansen
ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician
ASE Automobile Advanced Engine Performance
ASE Undercar Specialist
Currently working at a Subaru Dealership
http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troub...l_obd_main.htm
http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/
http://www.familycar.com/Alignment.htm
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Good point. I learned how to drive a manual on the Ford Pinto, then moved up to the Chevrolet Chevette. From there a Honda Accord, two Ford Probe GT's, and at last a Subaru Forester XS, and four manual motorcycles along the way. |
Allison-Chalmers WD first, then a 46 GMC dumptruck, and such. I actually
was scared to drive a car with an automatic, it took me months to quit
trying to stomp a hole in the floorboard with my left foot.
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Plus, there's the additional strain of AWD resisting any release of drive train force with tire slippage/scratch. |
I think that has a lot to do with it.
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Stephen W. Hansen
ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician
ASE Automobile Advanced Engine Performance
ASE Undercar Specialist
Currently working at a Subaru Dealership
http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troub...l_obd_main.htm
http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/
http://www.familycar.com/Alignment.htm
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Was at a Subie dealer buying a new cat-back exhaust to replace the original on my 98 Outback. Lying on the parts counter were parts of a WRX transmission including the layshaft, idler gear and 3rd and 4th gears. They were stripped almost smooth through nearly 180 degrees, obviously the result of violently incompetent shifting by a wannabe boy racer. Story: the car is only four months old, and the kid wants a warrantee repair of the tranny. We had a nice laugh over it. |
nights at a local drag strip.
I see these stupid squids in their gizzed-out subies there quite often. When
the christmas tree goes
green its a laugh riot.
You hear the roar of mousefarts, missed shifts and stupid sounding
backfires.These immature little
shits are boasting about the 300+ HP they are getting, but it gets lost
somewhere between the 4"
in diameter melon-launcher beercan exhaust and the wheels.The plethora of
5.0/302Ci Mustangs
and other real cars are blowing them away.
A few have added nitrous to their soobie HAHAHA...a nitrous backfire results
in a fiery WRX..love it!
Seems most of the owners are "Bolt on" addicts, never seen a dyno and don't
know shit about engines.
They would be better off racing their stereos.
MANY of these ricers take their wrecked cars home on the hook. It's a
destruction derby.
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"BobN" <nobody (AT) here (DOT) com> wrote in message news:hNGgh.18505$Rj.15718 (AT) newsfe19 (DOT) lga... Was at a Subie dealer buying a new cat-back exhaust to replace the original on my 98 Outback. Lying on the parts counter were parts of a WRX transmission including the layshaft, idler gear and 3rd and 4th gears. They were stripped almost smooth through nearly 180 degrees, obviously the result of violently incompetent shifting by a wannabe boy racer. Story: the car is only four months old, and the kid wants a warrantee repair of the tranny. We had a nice laugh over it. If you want to laugh your ass off, go to one of the "Run what you brung" nights at a local drag strip. I see these stupid squids in their gizzed-out subies there quite often. When the christmas tree goes green its a laugh riot. You hear the roar of mousefarts, missed shifts and stupid sounding backfires.These immature little shits are boasting about the 300+ HP they are getting, but it gets lost somewhere between the 4" in diameter melon-launcher beercan exhaust and the wheels.The plethora of 5.0/302Ci Mustangs and other real cars are blowing them away. A few have added nitrous to their soobie HAHAHA...a nitrous backfire results in a fiery WRX..love it! Seems most of the owners are "Bolt on" addicts, never seen a dyno and don't know shit about engines. They would be better off racing their stereos. MANY of these ricers take their wrecked cars home on the hook. It's a destruction derby. |
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