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Default Starter won't disengage - 03-21-2007 , 07:14 AM






For the past 10 days I've had trouble getting the starter to do more than
click: Usually I can solve this by moving the (auto) shifter through the
gears and then starting in neutral, sometimes it takes a few tries.

Yesterday it did something different: the engine started, and there was a
horrible sound, so after 10 seconds I shut down and pulled out the key. The
engine continued to turn over. I thought it was dieseling but that didn't
make sense. It was the starter continuing to turn the flywheel even though
the ignition was off and the key pulled out.

I finally stopped it by pulling off the neg. battery cable. When I
reattached the cable, the starter turned the flywheel again.

What is wrong, and how can I fix it? Thanks.



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Default Re: Starter won't disengage - 03-21-2007 , 07:40 AM






What year Subaru?
This is interesting.
The last time I encountered such a problem was a 74 ford pickup...
Check for the obvious bare wires for starter route?

"BobN" <nobody (AT) here (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
For the past 10 days I've had trouble getting the starter to do more than
click: Usually I can solve this by moving the (auto) shifter through the
gears and then starting in neutral, sometimes it takes a few tries.

Yesterday it did something different: the engine started, and there was a
horrible sound, so after 10 seconds I shut down and pulled out the key.
The engine continued to turn over. I thought it was dieseling but that
didn't make sense. It was the starter continuing to turn the flywheel even
though the ignition was off and the key pulled out.

I finally stopped it by pulling off the neg. battery cable. When I
reattached the cable, the starter turned the flywheel again.

What is wrong, and how can I fix it? Thanks.




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Default Re: Starter won't disengage - 03-21-2007 , 09:53 AM




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"BobN" <nobody (AT) here (DOT) com> wrote in message
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For the past 10 days I've had trouble getting the starter to do more than
click: Usually I can solve this by moving the (auto) shifter through the
gears and then starting in neutral, sometimes it takes a few tries.

Yesterday it did something different: the engine started, and there was a
horrible sound, so after 10 seconds I shut down and pulled out the key.
The engine continued to turn over. I thought it was dieseling but that
didn't make sense. It was the starter continuing to turn the flywheel even
though the ignition was off and the key pulled out.

I finally stopped it by pulling off the neg. battery cable. When I
reattached the cable, the starter turned the flywheel again.

What is wrong, and how can I fix it? Thanks.
Sounds like the solenoid and its contacts are wearing out.


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Default Re: Starter won't disengage - 03-21-2007 , 10:12 AM




"bgd" <bgd73 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
What year Subaru?
This is interesting.
The last time I encountered such a problem was a 74 ford pickup...
Check for the obvious bare wires for starter route?
Bare wires on the starter route.....jesus christ.....

It's the bearing race(throwout bearing) in the starter.it has failed and
thats what caused the hard starting and a faint "Click" when you hit the
key. Now it's stuck on the armature shaft and wont allow it to return. This
keeps the contacts closed and the "Bendix" engaged.
Pull the starter off and see that the gear is at the end of its travel.Have
the starter rebuilt.
Simple troubleshooting tests....but just as easy to pull the starter out.




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Default Re: Starter won't disengage - 03-21-2007 , 08:25 PM



Kurt wrote:
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"BobN" <nobody (AT) here (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:gm9Mh.10845$Ng1.4017 (AT) newsfe19 (DOT) lga...
For the past 10 days I've had trouble getting the starter to do more
than click: Usually I can solve this by moving the (auto) shifter
through the gears and then starting in neutral, sometimes it takes a
few tries.

Yesterday it did something different: the engine started, and there
was a horrible sound, so after 10 seconds I shut down and pulled out
the key. The engine continued to turn over. I thought it was
dieseling but that didn't make sense. It was the starter continuing
to turn the flywheel even though the ignition was off and the key
pulled out.

I finally stopped it by pulling off the neg. battery cable. When I
reattached the cable, the starter turned the flywheel again.

What is wrong, and how can I fix it? Thanks.

Sounds like the solenoid and its contacts are wearing out.
This one sounds like a "welded solenoid". When the contacts get worn,
there's often a pit on one side and a bump on the other. There's not
much metal left to dissipate the heat, so cranking causes the bump and
pit to heat up enough to "weld" the contacts closed.


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Default Re: Starter won't disengage - 04-18-2007 , 09:08 AM



Replace the starter....

On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:12:31 GMT, "amanda" <amanda772009 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
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"bgd" <bgd73 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message
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What year Subaru?
This is interesting.
The last time I encountered such a problem was a 74 ford pickup...
Check for the obvious bare wires for starter route?

Bare wires on the starter route.....jesus christ.....

It's the bearing race(throwout bearing) in the starter.it has failed and
thats what caused the hard starting and a faint "Click" when you hit the
key. Now it's stuck on the armature shaft and wont allow it to return. This
keeps the contacts closed and the "Bendix" engaged.
Pull the starter off and see that the gear is at the end of its travel.Have
the starter rebuilt.
Simple troubleshooting tests....but just as easy to pull the starter out.



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