OBD II compliance on '95 Legacy standard transmission

Hi,

Can anyone with a standard transmission '95 Subaru Legacy tell me if
it will work with OBD II code readers? I've heard mixed reports, but
one authoritative source indicates that only the automatic
transmission models of that year are "fully" OBD II compliant. Could
this mean there is partial OBD II compliance with the standard
transmission version?

There is a 16 pin connector to the lower left of my steering wheel
(LHS drive). The Haynes manual says that '95 Legacys do have OBD II,
and it doesn't indicate that it is dependant of transmission type.

Thanks,
John

You should have a sticker under the hood stating OBD II compliance.
Mine was an auto, but the service manual, which covers both, does not
differentiate between auto or manual tranny. Besides, it has the OBD-II
connector, it is OBD-II ISO.

Some links you may find useful:
http://www.obdii.com/
http://www.obdclearinghouse.com/

Good luck!

johnhayward (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

Hi,

Can anyone with a standard transmission '95 Subaru Legacy tell me if
it will work with OBD II code readers? I've heard mixed reports, but
one authoritative source indicates that only the automatic
transmission models of that year are "fully" OBD II compliant. Could
this mean there is partial OBD II compliance with the standard
transmission version?

There is a 16 pin connector to the lower left of my steering wheel
(LHS drive). The Haynes manual says that '95 Legacys do have OBD II,
and it doesn't indicate that it is dependant of transmission type.

Thanks,
John

On Apr 23, 2:21 pm, AS <d... (AT) spame (DOT) com> wrote:

You should have a sticker under the hood stating OBD II compliance.
Mine was an auto, but the service manual, which covers both, does not
differentiate between auto or manual tranny. Besides, it has the OBD-II
connector, it is OBD-II ISO.

Some links you may find useful:http://www.obdii.com/http://www.obdclearinghouse.com/

Good luck!



johnhayw... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
Hi,

Can anyone with a standard transmission '95 Subaru Legacy tell me if
it will work with OBD II code readers? I've heard mixed reports, but
one authoritative source indicates that only the automatic
transmission models of that year are "fully" OBD II compliant. Could
this mean there is partial OBD II compliance with the standard
transmission version?

There is a 16 pin connector to the lower left of my steering wheel
(LHS drive). The Haynes manual says that '95 Legacys do have OBD II,
and it doesn't indicate that it is dependant of transmission type.

Thanks,
John- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks. The sticker under hood doesn't have any indication of ODB II
complience. Perhaps it's because the car was purchased in Canada. It
is promising that the manual doesn't differentiate, but I would still
like a little more evidence prior to making a scanner purchase.

John

Did you check this one?

http://www.obdii.com/connector.html

johnhayward (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

On Apr 23, 2:21 pm, AS <d... (AT) spame (DOT) com> wrote:

You should have a sticker under the hood stating OBD II compliance.
Mine was an auto, but the service manual, which covers both, does not
differentiate between auto or manual tranny. Besides, it has the OBD-II
connector, it is OBD-II ISO.

Some links you may find useful:http://www.obdii.com/http://www.obdclearinghouse.com/

Good luck!



johnhayw... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

Hi,

Can anyone with a standard transmission '95 Subaru Legacy tell me if
it will work with OBD II code readers? I've heard mixed reports, but
one authoritative source indicates that only the automatic
transmission models of that year are "fully" OBD II compliant. Could
this mean there is partial OBD II compliance with the standard
transmission version?

There is a 16 pin connector to the lower left of my steering wheel
(LHS drive). The Haynes manual says that '95 Legacys do have OBD II,
and it doesn't indicate that it is dependant of transmission type.

Thanks,
John- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Thanks. The sticker under hood doesn't have any indication of ODB II
complience. Perhaps it's because the car was purchased in Canada. It
is promising that the manual doesn't differentiate, but I would still
like a little more evidence prior to making a scanner purchase.

John

Yes. I've seen that.
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Two factors will show if your vehicle is definitely OBD II equipped:
1) There will be an OBD II connector as shown below, and
2) There will be a note on a sticker or nameplate under the hood: "OBD
II compliant".
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My Subaru meets factor 1 (has the 16 pin connector), but not 2 (the
emmision control sticker has no mention of odb certification).

Later in the same document you linked to it says that the '95 legacy
is fully OBD II complient "(A/T models only)". I'm still left with
contradictory evidence. I would really like to find someone with a '95
standard who knows one way or another.

John

johnhayward (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

Yes. I've seen that.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Two factors will show if your vehicle is definitely OBD II equipped:
1) There will be an OBD II connector as shown below, and
2) There will be a note on a sticker or nameplate under the hood: "OBD
II compliant".
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My Subaru meets factor 1 (has the 16 pin connector), but not 2 (the
emmision control sticker has no mention of odb certification).

Later in the same document you linked to it says that the '95 legacy
is fully OBD II complient "(A/T models only)". I'm still left with
contradictory evidence. I would really like to find someone with a '95
standard who knows one way or another.

John

If no help forthcoming from here, contact a dealership or try
www.ultimatesubaru.org or www.nasioc.com

Carl


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What would happen if you took it to a place where they read OBD II codes for
free, such as Auto Zone, and just plugged it in? Anybody know if it would
hurt anything? If not, then like the man used to say, "Free is a very good
price!"

On the other hand, would the green and black connectors still be present
under the dash for manual code checking on an early OBD II Soob? If not,
perhaps look for those connectors, or their absense.

Maybe call a Soob dealer with your VIN number handy, too see if they can
reference such a trait of the car?

I wonder if Subaru differentiated their models that year, since Canada may
not have been requiring OBD II in the same time frame as the US?

~Brian

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johnhayward (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

Yes. I've seen that.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Two factors will show if your vehicle is definitely OBD II equipped:
1) There will be an OBD II connector as shown below, and
2) There will be a note on a sticker or nameplate under the hood: "OBD
II compliant".
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My Subaru meets factor 1 (has the 16 pin connector), but not 2 (the
emmision control sticker has no mention of odb certification).

Later in the same document you linked to it says that the '95 legacy
is fully OBD II complient "(A/T models only)". I'm still left with
contradictory evidence. I would really like to find someone with a '95
standard who knows one way or another.

John




If no help forthcoming from here, contact a dealership or try
www.ultimatesubaru.org or www.nasioc.com

Carl


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In article <1177340955.904100.312660 (AT) n76g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
johnhayward (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

Hi,

Can anyone with a standard transmission '95 Subaru Legacy tell me if
it will work with OBD II code readers? I've heard mixed reports, but
one authoritative source indicates that only the automatic
transmission models of that year are "fully" OBD II compliant. Could
this mean there is partial OBD II compliance with the standard
transmission version?

There is a 16 pin connector to the lower left of my steering wheel
(LHS drive). The Haynes manual says that '95 Legacys do have OBD II,
and it doesn't indicate that it is dependant of transmission type.

Thanks,
John

Mine does, but I have talked to 95 manual owners that are not.

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In Subaru cars that were not OBD-II compliant, the diagnostics port was
a connector used for the Select Monitor; it was a rectangular, yellowish
connector, hanging from the wires, pretty close to the steering column,
close to the single wire test connector and another green connector with
two wire leads taped to its wires.

The fact that your car has the OBD connector, is enough proof to me,
that your car is compliant. Keep in mind, that 95's equipped with OBD
would also have the 3 connectors described above.

johnhayward (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

Yes. I've seen that.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Two factors will show if your vehicle is definitely OBD II equipped:
1) There will be an OBD II connector as shown below, and
2) There will be a note on a sticker or nameplate under the hood: "OBD
II compliant".
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My Subaru meets factor 1 (has the 16 pin connector), but not 2 (the
emmision control sticker has no mention of odb certification).

Later in the same document you linked to it says that the '95 legacy
is fully OBD II complient "(A/T models only)". I'm still left with
contradictory evidence. I would really like to find someone with a '95
standard who knows one way or another.

John

Unfortunately there are no Autozones here in The Great White North.
Perhap's there is an equivalent. I'll look around. I'll also make a
trip by the dealer when I can. I'll post my findings as soon as I get
them.

thanks,
John