Would they rather spend 2 hours in a ditch and money on a tow, than $200 on a
set of tires? They don't even have to be good ones ... just have some tread on
them!

I could drive circles around most people in the snow using a Subaru Justy, or
heck, a Yugo with snow tires. Hemi powered, 4wd, 20 inch rims with half bald
tires means 'ditch diving' in winter.

My other pet peve (today): With a few inches of snow on the ground, why can't
people figure out where to park in a parking lot. It's like a slolom course
with rows zig zagging all over the place.

Sigh.

:^]

jw
milwaukee

<J999w> wrote:
First winter with a Subaru with new Goodyear Allegra all-seasons and so far
it's better than any FWD _with_ snow tires I've ever driven!
--
Dominic Richens | dominic (AT) alumni (DOT) uottawa.ca
"If you're not *outraged*, you're not paying attention!"

"J999w" <j999w (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote


Well - in general, SUV's and big trucks seem to give the owners a sense of
invincibility - that they can go anywhere, anytime, as quickly as they see
fit... it's never pretty when reality comes crashing down (literally) on
them. (funny, but not pretty)

I live in a condo in a big northern city. There's nowhere for me to
store snow tires and rims in the summer. I suspect that's a common
problem.

As far as not knowing how to park in the winter, I can't defend that.

-LK

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Dominic Richens <knob (AT) storm (DOT) ca> wrote

Try snow tires on your sub and be even further amaized
I have 4 new snows on my 2004 Inpreza wagon.
It drives like a snowmobile compared to anything else on the road.

<< There's nowhere for me to
store snow tires and rims in the summer. I suspect that's a common problem.
For me the problem with snow tires is that in Colorado the snow season begins
in September and ends in May. That's a long time to drive on snows every
year.....9 out of 12 months.

Snow tires are, by their very nature, softer and squishier than all-weather
tires. On windey mountain roads (what other kind are there?) snow tires make my
Outback handle like a ford compared to high performance all-weather tires.

No Way wrote:

As long as the driver knows what s/he is doing.
Stupid/dumb drivers will ditch it even on snow tires.
Even a tank can go into ditch when road condition is real bad.
Tony

Unless you are driving a rear wheel drive in a snow belt area you simply
don't need them. But if you do get them, and your state allows them, get
them studded.

"J999w" <j999w (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote

<Tony Hwang> wrote:
So there's a good topic: What do you do differently in an AWD car to stay
out of the ditch? So far all I've figured out is that that if a wheel
starts to slip while going round a gentle corner under power, you don't do
anything...the axel with traction will keep pulling/pushing you in the right
direction...just get ready to punch the clutch if all wheels start to slip!

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Dominic Richens | dominic (AT) alumni (DOT) uottawa.ca
"If you're not *outraged*, you're not paying attention!"

In article <bv0hmt$8js$1 (AT) news (DOT) storm.ca>,
"Dominic Richens" <knob (AT) storm (DOT) ca> wrote:

Doesn't matter what you are driving. Just don't make any abrupt changes
in direction or speed. Just concentrate on your driving, which is what
you're supposed to be doing anyway. Don't drink coffee or comb your hair
and you'll be OK. I've driven for miles on "black ice" in Montana and
never wound up in a ditch. Granted, there was virtually no trafffic and
I didn't have to avoid anyone.

Al

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