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02 Camry ATF change
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Re: 02 Camry ATF change -
04-30-2007
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"wp51dos" <wp51... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177714906.505985.285940 (AT) h2g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 25, 10:05 pm, EdV <systme... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: On Apr 25, 7:33 am, w <wp51... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: i change trans fluid at every oil change. Isn't that a waste of money? i don't think so. transmissions are expensive. $ 5 for trans fluid. under there anyway to drain oil. Of course it's a waste of money. Do you think Toyota or any other manufacturer in this day and age with the incredibly competitive auto market is going to recommend a service schedule that will put the perceived longevity of his product in doubt by creating damaged transmissions after 3-4 years of normal use? Honda had a real problem with transmission and they spent huge amounts of money to fix any and every one they could get in the shop and then issued extended warrantees. Spend your money any way you want, but to change transmission fluid more often than the manufacturer suggests is just pissing it away, not it is not cheap insurance. It is nothing more than being insecure and anal compulsive. |
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On Apr 30, 1:13 pm, "Double Tap" <double... (AT) 37 (DOT) com> wrote: "wp51dos" <wp51... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177714906.505985.285940 (AT) h2g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 25, 10:05 pm, EdV <systme... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: On Apr 25, 7:33 am, w <wp51... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: i change trans fluid at every oil change. Isn't that a waste of money? i don't think so. transmissions are expensive. $ 5 for trans fluid. under there anyway to drain oil. Of course it's a waste of money. Do you think Toyota or any other manufacturer in this day and age with the incredibly competitive auto market is going to recommend a service schedule that will put the perceived longevity of his product in doubt by creating damaged transmissions after 3-4 years of normal use? Honda had a real problem with transmission and they spent huge amounts of money to fix any and every one they could get in the shop and then issued extended warrantees. Spend your money any way you want, but to change transmission fluid more often than the manufacturer suggests is just pissing it away, not it is not cheap insurance. It is nothing more than being insecure and anal compulsive. and you are a tradesman??? |
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On Apr 28, 8:12 am, "FantomFan" <reaper... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: videokid... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177662393.593205.223170 (AT) u32g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 26, 4:11 pm, mrdarr... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: On Apr 22, 10:35 pm, videokid... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote: On Apr 23, 11:46 am, John <guanj27... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Does anyone know when to change 02 Camry v6 tranny ATF, I searched its service schedule a few times, but didn't see any thing regard normal driving except servere condition. Any idea? John ALL and ANY transmission oils should be changed at 50,000kms intervals.Read the service shedule , then ignore it, spend the time and just do it. regards, dave Thoroughly changed (as in flushed)? Or a simple drain-and-fill (leaving oh, what, 60-70% of the old fluid in the torque converter, etc.) every 50k kms ok? M Well lets see , im looking at a 1l bottle of CASTROL TQ88 TRANSMISSION OIL(at least thats what the label says).Looks viscus , guess id go with the manufac and call it oil. I also buy 205l drums of MTQ 12 mitsubishi ATF and they call it fluid, so I guess is a moot point. Yes SOME manufacturers are coming out with sealed transmissions,And they are designed not to have fluid swaps,you will VERY RARLEY drive one with over 45000kms on it and not get a fault code from the trans when on a scan tool.So they are a good thing ??? well I wonder, all that I have seen can be toped up or changed,lets face it its only a matter of removing a cooling line,reverse flushing and re fill via same method using correct quantity. And no I mean a complete flush, changing the trans only is just a complete waste of time and money.contaminents from the converter will enter immediatley. dave. Great idea - lets push all that crap you're talking about back through the system. Wouldn't it be better to flush in the same direction as the fluid travels?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes it is a great idea, Most trans flush machines use the same principal.....ours works like this (Trans Tech 4400)..evac 's ALL old fluid from the trans ,cycles about 1l of fluid through in flow direction, times out, and then cycles another litre in reverse direction , the prosess in then repeated.and before we all jump up and down about that being a waste of fluid , the flush fluid is recycled through a series of 2000 micron filters.I reuse the fluid four times.NEVER HAD a problem with this method.we would do about 20 to 25 a month. dave |
Maybe you 'qualified' people need to think about your answers and be
clearer. Most of the people here do their own work and wouldn't have
realised you meant 'machine flush'
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videokid... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177717612.369594.131220 (AT) c35g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 28, 8:12 am, "FantomFan" <reaper... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: videokid... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177662393.593205.223170 (AT) u32g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 26, 4:11 pm, mrdarr... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: On Apr 22, 10:35 pm, videokid... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote: On Apr 23, 11:46 am, John <guanj27... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Does anyone know when to change 02 Camry v6 tranny ATF, I searched its service schedule a few times, but didn't see any thing regard normal driving except servere condition. Any idea? John ALL and ANY transmission oils should be changed at 50,000kms intervals.Read the service shedule , then ignore it, spend the time and just do it. regards, dave Thoroughly changed (as in flushed)? Or a simple drain-and-fill (leaving oh, what, 60-70% of the old fluid in the torque converter, etc.) every 50k kms ok? M Well lets see , im looking at a 1l bottle of CASTROL TQ88 TRANSMISSION OIL(at least thats what the label says).Looks viscus , guess id go with the manufac and call it oil. I also buy 205l drums of MTQ 12 mitsubishi ATF and they call it fluid, so I guess is a moot point. Yes SOME manufacturers are coming out with sealed transmissions,And they are designed not to have fluid swaps,you will VERY RARLEY drive one with over 45000kms on it and not get a fault code from the trans when on a scan tool.So they are a good thing ??? well I wonder, all that I have seen can be toped up or changed,lets face it its only a matter of removing a cooling line,reverse flushing and re fill via same method using correct quantity. And no I mean a complete flush, changing the trans only is just a complete waste of time and money.contaminents from the converter will enter immediatley. dave. Great idea - lets push all that crap you're talking about back through the system. Wouldn't it be better to flush in the same direction as the fluid travels?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes it is a great idea, Most trans flush machines use the same principal.....ours works like this (Trans Tech 4400)..evac 's ALL old fluid from the trans ,cycles about 1l of fluid through in flow direction, times out, and then cycles another litre in reverse direction , the prosess in then repeated.and before we all jump up and down about that being a waste of fluid , the flush fluid is recycled through a series of 2000 micron filters.I reuse the fluid four times.NEVER HAD a problem with this method.we would do about 20 to 25 a month. dave So it's not just a 'reverse flush' then. Maybe you 'qualified' people need to think about your answers and be clearer. Most of the people here do their own work and wouldn't have realised you meant 'machine flush'- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
both directions.
We have been talking about machine flushing almost since the start of
the thread.
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:46:52 -0700, videokid400 wrote: Great idea - lets push all that crap you're talking about back through the system. Wouldn't it be better to flush in the same direction as the fluid travels?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes it is a great idea, Most trans flush machines use the same principal.....ours works like this (Trans Tech 4400)..evac 's ALL old fluid from the trans ,cycles about 1l of fluid through in flow direction, times out, and then cycles another litre in reverse direction , the prosess in then repeated.and before we all jump up and down about that being a waste of fluid , the flush fluid is recycled through a series of 2000 micron filters.I reuse the fluid four times.NEVER HAD a problem with this method.we would do about 20 to 25 a month. dave Never had a tranny (esp one with *BLACK* fluid) go belly-up after beiing flushed? We had two (US Ford/Mazda) Escorts drop dead miles from the flush place! Never ever did another one. Drain and fill...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
and solvent type before blaming the system or method.
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On Apr 25, 10:05 pm, EdV <systme... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: On Apr 25, 7:33 am, w <wp51... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: i change trans fluid at every oil change. Isn't that a waste of money? Probably not, if it's a drain-and-fill. I've been doing it around every oil change, too, on my '96. assumptions: total fluid reservoir volume (4-cylinder, '96): 5.9 qt amount of fluid changed: 1.7 qt amount remaining after first drain-and-fill: (5.9-1.7) / 5.9 = 0.71 = 71% old fluid remaining continuing the calculations, changeout 1 71% changeout 2 51% changeout 3 36% changeout 4 26% changeout 5 18% changeout 6 13% changeout 7 9% changeout 8 7% changeout 9 5% Michael |
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mrdarr... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177689523.451644.160690 (AT) o40g2000prh (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 25, 10:05 pm, EdV <systme... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: On Apr 25, 7:33 am, w <wp51... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: i change trans fluid at every oil change. Isn't that a waste of money? Probably not, if it's a drain-and-fill. I've been doing it around every oil change, too, on my '96. assumptions: total fluid reservoir volume (4-cylinder, '96): 5.9 qt amount of fluid changed: 1.7 qt amount remaining after first drain-and-fill: (5.9-1.7) / 5.9 = 0.71 = 71% old fluid remaining continuing the calculations, changeout 1 71% changeout 2 51% changeout 3 36% changeout 4 26% changeout 5 18% changeout 6 13% changeout 7 9% changeout 8 7% changeout 9 5% Michael It's probably a damn good idea, considering the cost of a new transmission.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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And for North America that's 50k "Miles" ? I believe in replacing the ATF as factory recommendation and its funny the 07 Camry manual says you have to change ATF only under severe driving conditions... Is this some typo or what?? |
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On May 7, 9:10 am, "sharx35" <shar... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: mrdarr... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177689523.451644.160690 (AT) o40g2000prh (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 25, 10:05 pm, EdV <systme... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: On Apr 25, 7:33 am, w <wp51... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: i change trans fluid at every oil change. Isn't that a waste of money? Probably not, if it's a drain-and-fill. I've been doing it around every oil change, too, on my '96. assumptions: total fluid reservoir volume (4-cylinder, '96): 5.9 qt amount of fluid changed: 1.7 qt amount remaining after first drain-and-fill: (5.9-1.7) / 5.9 = 0.71 = 71% old fluid remaining continuing the calculations, changeout 1 71% changeout 2 51% changeout 3 36% changeout 4 26% changeout 5 18% changeout 6 13% changeout 7 9% changeout 8 7% changeout 9 5% Michael It's probably a damn good idea, considering the cost of a new transmission.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Whats a good idea??? |
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I'd thought "Drain and Fill" simply involved removing the 10mm hex nut on the bottom of the tranny pan, then filling from the dipstick. Are you saying, more liquid can be drained by inserting a tube down the dipstick line, then sucking (with a vacuum pump, say)? What would be the point of filtering the fluid as it circulates? Not sure fine metal particles can be filtered out so quickly. Why not simply change it - then, if you really have to, filter the removed liquid at your leisure, then re-use at a later date? I don't yet feel comfortable disconnecting the ATF coolant line going to the radiator, turning on the engine, and filling / emptying that way - guess I'm still a "beginner", then. ;-) Is that standard procedure for ATF flushes? Michael |
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