Re: GM Dealer Challenges the Toyota Tundra's Ads... AS BULL

#1

Maybe you should go troll elsewhere, and quit cross posting.

"C. E. White" <cewhite (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> wrote

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I see Toyota has another new Tundra ad on TV. Like the others it is
deceptive, if not actually factually incorrect. They line up all the major
full size pick-ups and do a side by side 0 to 60 to 0 run. They tell you
which Tundra they are running (5.7L engine), but don't provide details of
the other trucks (hopefully they all have the best 0-60 set-up). The Tundra
clearly wins. This is fine. Irrelevant, but fine - people who actually NEED
trucks don't do a lot of WOT 0-60 runs. I have no problem with a clear
demonstration of the Tundra's superior acceleration since I don't really do
much drag racing with my pick-up. What bugs me was the announcers final
statement - something to the effect that it stopped 30 feet shorter than
the competition. While this is true when you consider the distance from the
start of the 0 to 60 to 0 run, the way the line was phrased could be
interpreted to mean that the Tundra's stopping distance from 60 was 30 feet
shorter than the competitions. It wasn't. Most of the 30 feet was gained
during the acceleration phase. So while the commercial was factually
correct it was carefully worded so as to encourage people to believe
something that was not actually demonstrated. In their 2007 Full Size
Pick-up Road Comparison Test, Edmunds.com recorded the 5.7 Double Cab
Tundras stopping distance from 60 as 131 feet. A similar Silverado managed
139 feet. A similar Titan stopped from 60 in 127 feet. In the recent Car
and Driver 2007 pick-up comparison test, the 70-0 results were F150 - 200
feet, Dodge 1500 - 196 feet, Tundra - 197 feet, Nissan Titian 200 feet,
Silverado - 187 feet. So despite the attempt to make it seem as if the
Tundra had exceptional brakes, they are in fact typical of the class. But
if you want to drag race your Tundra, it is first rate. Too bad it is a
fourth rate work truck.

Ed

#2

Leythos wrote:

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:18:09 +0000, PerfectReign wrote:
As an aside, I decided to drag race - well, sort of - my wife yesterday.
She was in her '05 Vue and I in my '06 Avalanche.

Her 240 HP V6 completely outran my 310 HP V8. Of course, her car weighs
3,400 lbs. compared to my truck at almost 6,000 lbs.

I was following a Ferrari something, red, the other day, and at each stop
the chap would gun it and then fly down the road - long twisting roads
with only a few stops. It was funny as he could not pull away from my
Dakota Quad 4x4 v8 truck. He kept looking back and I don't think that he
ever gained more than 50' on me

In traffic, when I see someone driving like him, I think to myself, "I'm
really bummed, he beat me to the stoplight!" ... :>))
--
Tom - Vista, CA

#3

My newsreader works just fine, and you didn't have to scroll through a bunch
of stuff to read a single line reply either.
My killfile works just fine, thanks

have a nice day

*PLONK*

"PerfectReign" <perfectreign (AT) xr4ti (DOT) cotse.net> wrote

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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 09:50:37 -0500, a rock fell from the sky, hitting
Noon-Air on the head, and inspiring the following:

PLEASE quit crossposting this crap

Please quit topposting.

Oh, and get a better newsreader. I'm sure they have them there in
Mississippi.

--
kai
www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com
www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com

closing the doors that surround me
so no one will ever penetrate
complete my retreat just to wait for the day
that never comes so i will laugh alone

#4

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt (AT) nc (DOT) rr.com> wrote

Quote:

SnoMan wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 11:15:16 -0400, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt (AT) nc (DOT) rr.com
wrote:

I've got a 96 Cherokee with the 4.0 straight six. Best car I've ever
had, I've driven the piss out of it for over 320,000 miles with very
little trouble, one alternator, one water pump, one clutch, and then at
around 300,000 a rod bearing started making noise so I had a new engine
put in and plan on driving it for years to come.

I'd drive that little Jeep anyhwhere, and as with that many miles pretty
much have!

That Jeep is nor longer a Jeep as they are made today because the 4.0
was AMC engine and well designed and sturdy not like the import
engines they are using in some newer Jeep models today. I buy quality
not nationality and Toyota did not get to were they are today by
building junk nor did Detriot loose so much market share for a good
reason, lower quality and value. Detriot banked on the "buy americain"
for years to save their cookies and they still have not learned that
if you make a good product is sells itself without 5000 or 10000
dollar clearance rebates. -----------------
TheSnoMan.com

My Jeep IS a Jeep, not like a Compass or even the current Wrangler with
it's minivan engine.

I think GM is finally learning the lesson about quality and is turning the
corner, Ford and Occupied Chrysler still have a way to go.

Jeff DeWitt

"Occupied Chrysler"

Oh, that's funny! Good one!

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