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Tim Bruening
 
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Default Re: Alternate Fuel Cars - 03-15-2007 , 07:28 PM








Mike Hunter wrote:

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Why in the world do you think the US government should take money from one
taxpayer like you, who may not even be in a position to buy a new car or
properly maintain their used car, and give it to another taxpayer to buy a
ANY vehicle that burns a fuel that is already heavily subsided, let alone
one made in another county, like the Pruis by a company like Toyota, that
does not pay a penny in US Corporate taxes?
I understand that the U.S. provides tax breaks to oil companies.



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Default Re: Alternate Fuel Cars - 03-15-2007 , 07:38 PM







Tim Bruening wrote:

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To promote alternate fuel cars, I suggest a $1,000 rebate to
everyone who buys such a car.
Why should government get do that? They'll probably just subsidize
corn growers (and Archer-Daniels-Midland) and not cut our dependence
on foreign energy one bit.



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Default Re: Alternate Fuel Cars - 03-15-2007 , 07:57 PM





larry moe 'n curly wrote:

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Tim Bruening wrote:

To promote alternate fuel cars, I suggest a $1,000 rebate to
everyone who buys such a car.

Why should government get do that? They'll probably just subsidize
corn growers (and Archer-Daniels-Midland) and not cut our dependence
on foreign energy one bit.
But ADM supports public television!



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Default Re: Alternate Fuel Cars - 03-16-2007 , 03:06 PM



I pretty much always make sense, it is just that you do not always agree.



mike


"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) ae86 (DOT) gts> wrote

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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:40:21 -0400, Mike Hunter wrote:

Why in the world do you think the US government should take money from
one
taxpayer like you, who may not even be in a position to buy a new car or
properly maintain their used car, and give it to another taxpayer to buy
a
ANY vehicle that burns a fuel that is already heavily subsided, let alone
one made in another county, like the Pruis by a company like Toyota, that
does not pay a penny in US Corporate taxes?


Ya know, for once Mike makes sense...






"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:07:01 -0800, Tim Bruening wrote:

To promote alternate fuel cars, I suggest a $1,000 rebate to everyone
who
buys such a car.


How about $4,000? That's the average tax break on a Prius or Honda
Hybrid...





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Mike Hunter
 
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Default Re: Alternate Fuel Cars - 03-16-2007 , 03:12 PM



There was limit on the total number of vehicle that could be eligible for
the full refund. I went to a lowered amount at a predetermined level as
well. If memory serves the total was 90K for any manufacture. Since those
that sold them sooner reach the statutory limit sooner.

mike


"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) ae86 (DOT) gts> wrote

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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:51:47 -0400, mark_digital© wrote:


"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:07:01 -0800, Tim Bruening wrote:

To promote alternate fuel cars, I suggest a $1,000 rebate to everyone
who
buys such a car.


How about $4,000? That's the average tax break on a Prius or Honda
Hybrid...


When?


I think that's what it was when the tax breaks first went into effect, and
the Prius and the Insight were the only models eligible for it.




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Mike Hunter
 
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Default Re: Alternate Fuel Cars - 03-16-2007 , 03:58 PM



The price of corn and its derivative products, are already going way up.

mike


"larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly (AT) my-deja (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Tim Bruening wrote:

To promote alternate fuel cars, I suggest a $1,000 rebate to
everyone who buys such a car.

Why should government get do that? They'll probably just subsidize
corn growers (and Archer-Daniels-Midland) and not cut our dependence
on foreign energy one bit.




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Tim Bruening
 
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Default Re: Alternate Fuel Cars - 03-17-2007 , 02:58 AM





Mike Hunter wrote:

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The price of corn and its derivative products, are already going way up.
Which means that more corn will be planted!



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Mike Hunter
 
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Default Re: Alternate Fuel Cars - 03-17-2007 , 02:01 PM



Can we assume you skipped all of your economics 101 classes?

mike

"Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni (AT) pop (DOT) dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote

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Mike Hunter wrote:

The price of corn and its derivative products, are already going way up.

Which means that more corn will be planted!




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Tim Bruening
 
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Default Re: Alternate Fuel Cars - 03-17-2007 , 11:29 PM





Mike Hunter wrote:

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Can we assume you skipped all of your economics 101 classes?
If you were a corn farmer and the price went way up, wouldn't logic dictate
that you plant more corn so as to make more money?



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Default Re: Alternate Fuel Cars - 03-18-2007 , 10:48 AM



On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:29:55 -0800, Tim Bruening
<tsbrueni (AT) pop (DOT) dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:

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Mike Hunter wrote:

Can we assume you skipped all of your economics 101 classes?

If you were a corn farmer and the price went way up, wouldn't logic dictate
that you plant more corn so as to make more money?
That's going to depend on what crop you've contracted. Most farmers
today don't wait until next spring to decide what to plant, they sign
contracts in the fall or early winter for the crop they'll harvest
next fall. This commits them to a crop, an amount (number of bushels)
and a price. The seed is also sold in the fall or early winter.

Jack


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