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Default Re: Are drivers boycotting Exxon and Mobil? - 04-30-2004 , 08:57 PM








mark_digital wrote:
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Exxon and Mobil at this moment are two of the largest companies. Will
boycotting them induce a price war?


Are they French or Canadian? Otherwise I won't boycott them, nor the
NAACP's boycott of South Carolina.



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Default Re: Are drivers boycotting Exxon and Mobil? - 05-01-2004 , 05:13 AM






"TacomaDude" <2003TRD (AT) cincyguy (DOT) com> wrote

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mark_digital wrote:
Exxon and Mobil at this moment are two of the largest companies. Will
boycotting them induce a price war?


Are they French or Canadian? Otherwise I won't boycott them, nor the
NAACP's boycott of South Carolina.

Actually you should boycott TOTAL and Fina gas stations. They are both owned
by the same French company called TotalFinaElf (TFE), formally known as
TOTAL/PetroFina. They had extensive dealings with Saddam Hussein.

No one should ever buy a product from a French company, since the French are
the sole reason for keeping the UN out of the effort in Iraq.




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Default Re: Are drivers boycotting Exxon and Mobil? - 05-01-2004 , 11:24 AM



No.

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 05:31:06 -0400, "mark_digital"
<XXX-RIR (AT) comcast (DOT) com> wrote:

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Exxon and Mobil at this moment are two of the largest companies. Will
boycotting them induce a price war?



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Default Re: Are drivers boycotting Exxon and Mobil? - 05-01-2004 , 02:36 PM





Jeremiah wrote:

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Richard Schumacher wrote:
mark_digital wrote:

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:IYpkc.5202$%o1.3131 (AT) lakeread03 (DOT) ..

Exxon and Mobil are the same company. They merged about 3-4 years
ago.
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I have a printout about this boycott and it does mention both
companies as being one, but continues speaking of them as "they",
plural.

Ahh, marketing hype. What would we do without the illusion of choice?

Yeah, kinda' like the choice between republicans & democrats? LOL
As Will Rogers (anybody still remember Will Rogers?) wrote, a two party
system is like a man with two shirts: he always has a relatively clean one
to change into.

And now we're way overdue to change shirts.




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Default Re: Are drivers boycotting Exxon and Mobil? - 05-01-2004 , 02:41 PM





"Tegger®" wrote:

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"Mark A" <ma (AT) switchboard (DOT) net> spake unto the masses in
news:6jrkc.6$dR2.1870 (AT) news (DOT) uswest.net:


High gas prices are primarily due to high crude oil prices, which are
partly a function of the declining dollar (which is partly due to very
low interest rates in the USA).

Thank you. I forgot to point this out in my last post.

Low interest rates are a form of inflation; inflation of credit rather than
currency. Inflating either will eventually cause an increase in consumer
prices.

As Milton Friedman once so famously pointed out: "Inflation is always and
everywhere a monetary phenomenon."

In other words, these days the government *always* causes inflation, since
the government maintains an effective monopoly on money.
Uhh, you might note that the prices of most other necessities did not go up 50%
in the last year.

Of course, if it had matched the cost of living index for the last 40 years gas
would now cost about $4 per gallon, so arguing purely in monetary terms way
we're overdue for a catchup.

Gawd, I love my Prius :_>




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Default Re: Are drivers boycotting Exxon and Mobil? - 05-01-2004 , 09:22 PM



In article <4093EF4D.51BBBC26 (AT) thank-you (DOT) com>, no-spam (AT) thank-you (DOT) com
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Quote:

"Tegger®" wrote:

"Mark A" <ma (AT) switchboard (DOT) net> spake unto the masses in
news:6jrkc.6$dR2.1870 (AT) news (DOT) uswest.net:


High gas prices are primarily due to high crude oil prices, which are
partly a function of the declining dollar (which is partly due to very
low interest rates in the USA).

Thank you. I forgot to point this out in my last post.

Low interest rates are a form of inflation; inflation of credit rather than
currency. Inflating either will eventually cause an increase in consumer
prices.

As Milton Friedman once so famously pointed out: "Inflation is always and
everywhere a monetary phenomenon."

In other words, these days the government *always* causes inflation, since
the government maintains an effective monopoly on money.

Uhh, you might note that the prices of most other necessities did not go up 50%
in the last year.

Of course, if it had matched the cost of living index for the last 40 years gas
would now cost about $4 per gallon, so arguing purely in monetary terms way
we're overdue for a catchup.

Gawd, I love my Prius :_



If gas wasn't subsidized before it's taxed in the USA it would be $4 a
gallon. On the other hand, water is about $2 a galon now depending on
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Default Re: Are drivers boycotting Exxon and Mobil? - 05-01-2004 , 11:39 PM




"Richard Schumacher" <no-spam (AT) thank-you (DOT) com> wrote

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And now we're way overdue to change shirts.
both shirts have shit-stains on them




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Default Re: Are drivers boycotting Exxon and Mobil? - 05-01-2004 , 11:59 PM




"Tegger®" <teggeratistopdotcom (AT) changetheobvious (DOT) invalid> wrote

Quote:
"Mark A" <ma (AT) switchboard (DOT) net> spake unto the masses in
news:6jrkc.6$dR2.1870 (AT) news (DOT) uswest.net:


High gas prices are primarily due to high crude oil prices, which are
partly a function of the declining dollar (which is partly due to very
low interest rates in the USA).



Thank you. I forgot to point this out in my last post.

Low interest rates are a form of inflation; inflation of credit rather
than
currency. Inflating either will eventually cause an increase in consumer
prices.

As Milton Friedman once so famously pointed out: "Inflation is always and
everywhere a monetary phenomenon."

In other words, these days the government *always* causes inflation, since
the government maintains an effective monopoly on money.
There was an excellent lecture I listened to once .. it was about "Wheat
Receipts"... explained how basically the whole idea of 'money' is a scam
anyway. By a guy named Dr. Stuart Crane..
I found it on this page after some searching:
http://www.markswatson.com/Audio.html






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Mark A
 
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Default Re: Are drivers boycotting Exxon and Mobil? - 05-02-2004 , 08:36 AM



Quote:
In other words, these days the government *always* causes inflation,
since
the government maintains an effective monopoly on money.

Uhh, you might note that the prices of most other necessities did not go
up 50%
in the last year.

A significant amount of oil is imported into the US and the dollar has
dropped in value about 25% compared to the Euro in the last year. That
accounts for a large part of the increase in crude oil prices, in addition
to world political tensions. For Europeans, the price of oil has not changed
very much in Euros. Of course gasoline costs about $4-$5 a gallon in most of
Europe (and has cost that much for a long time).

As previously mentioned, the dollars decline is partly due to very low
interest rates, which are designed to spur economic activity. The low dollar
also makes US exports cheaper so that it will create job growth in the US.
Of course it makes imports more expensive.

Some companies that import goods into the US have eaten part of cost of the
dollar deflation, but that can't last forever. Those who have done that have
to compete with US made goods. With oil, there is no elasticity of supply
since US oil producers cannot increase domestic production if imported oil
costs more (as might be the case with other types of manufactured goods).




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