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Default excessive smoke from tailpipe-couldn't perform emissions test? - 08-22-2006 , 12:51 PM






I have a 94 toyota tercel, 210k miles and lately there has been excessive
smoke issuing from the tailpipe at start up and then it usually stops after
the car has warmed up, thinking that was due to burning oil because this car
slurps up oil like its job. Then it starts to hesitate when I shift into
higher gears, 4th especially, it feels as if it's slipping out of gear or
there is a clog in the fuel system or injector...either way I was denied the
emissions test because of this excessive smoke but my problem is, is that the
car doesn't normally issue smoke after it idles and I waited 15 minutes in
the testing line. So I was wondering if anyone had any information as to the
problem/remedy. I've also been told that adding rubbing alcohol to the gas
tank will flush the system but that scares me do you think it would be
advantageous for me to try because I need to get my new registration soon!
thanks


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Default Re: excessive smoke from tailpipe-couldn't perform emissions test? - 08-22-2006 , 01:34 PM







"rct27" <u25606@uwe> wrote

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I have a 94 toyota tercel, 210k miles and lately there has been excessive
smoke issuing from the tailpipe at start up and then it usually stops
after
the car has warmed up, thinking that was due to burning oil because this
car
slurps up oil like its job. Then it starts to hesitate when I shift into
higher gears, 4th especially, it feels as if it's slipping out of gear or
there is a clog in the fuel system or injector...either way I was denied
the
emissions test because of this excessive smoke but my problem is, is that
the
car doesn't normally issue smoke after it idles and I waited 15 minutes in
the testing line. So I was wondering if anyone had any information as to
the
problem/remedy. I've also been told that adding rubbing alcohol to the gas
tank will flush the system but that scares me do you think it would be
advantageous for me to try because I need to get my new registration soon!
thanks

The smoke at startup after the car has been sitting for a while is a symptom
of leaking valve stem oil seals, and it is not uncommon for that vintage
Tercel to have that problem. The problem with running the engine with this
condition is that it can eventually contaminate the catalytic converter.

If you run the car at highway speeds for a long time, you may (or may not)
be lucky enough to get the catalytic converter hot enough to burn off the
contaminants and pass the emissions test, but to be honest, that is a long
shot.

The proper fix is to replace the valve stem oil seals, and depending on how
long the condition has existed, also replace the catalytic converter.

The hesitation you are getting in 4th gear is probably unrelated to the oil
problem. First, check the condition of the transmission fluid. If it is an
automatic transmission, the fluid should be red and translucent. If it is
another color, the fluid should be drained and refilled. The hesitation
could also be due to an engine miss or a clogged injector if your engine is
fuel injected. Check the condition of the spark plugs to make sure the
electrodes are not coated with oil, check the spark plug wires, distributor
cap, and rotor. If it is fuel injected, try some fuel injector cleaner and
see if the hesitation clears up.
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Ray O
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Default Re: excessive smoke from tailpipe-couldn't perform emissions test? - 08-22-2006 , 01:51 PM




White oil smoke at startup usually starts with worn valve stem seals (a
common Toyota problem). This becomes progressively worse over time.
At this mileage, the valve stems could also be worn.

Hesitation is usually a fuel problem, fuel filter, fuel pump, fuel pump
filter, fuel injector system. Dump a can of fuel injector cleaner into
the tank when it is lower on fuel and burn it out. Toyota recommends
something with Techron. I would stay away from rubbing alcohol.


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Default Re: excessive smoke from tailpipe-couldn't perform emissions test? - 08-24-2006 , 04:27 AM



The condition of your car will probably prevent you from getting it tested
until You do a top end/ valve job. You should have a leakdown test done to
make sure the rings are OK first. Or get one of the used jap engines
installed


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Default Re: excessive smoke from tailpipe-couldn't perform emissions test? - 08-24-2006 , 04:47 PM




"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote

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"rct27" <u25606@uwe> wrote

I have a 94 toyota tercel, 210k miles and lately there has been excessive
smoke issuing from the tailpipe at start up and then it usually stops after
the car has warmed up, thinking that was due to burning oil because this car
slurps up oil like its job. Then it starts to hesitate when I shift into
higher gears, 4th especially, it feels as if it's slipping out of gear or
there is a clog in the fuel system or injector...either way I was denied the
emissions test because of this excessive smoke but my problem is, is that the
car doesn't normally issue smoke after it idles and I waited 15 minutes in
the testing line. So I was wondering if anyone had any information as to the
problem/remedy. I've also been told that adding rubbing alcohol to the gas
tank will flush the system but that scares me do you think it would be
advantageous for me to try because I need to get my new registration soon!
thanks


The smoke at startup after the car has been sitting for a while is a symptom of leaking valve stem oil seals, and it is not
uncommon for that vintage Tercel to have that problem. The problem with running the engine with this condition is that it can
eventually contaminate the catalytic converter.

If you run the car at highway speeds for a long time, you may (or may not) be lucky enough to get the catalytic converter hot
enough to burn off the contaminants and pass the emissions test, but to be honest, that is a long shot.

The proper fix is to replace the valve stem oil seals, and depending on how long the condition has existed, also replace the
catalytic converter.

The hesitation you are getting in 4th gear is probably unrelated to the oil problem. First, check the condition of the
transmission fluid. If it is an automatic transmission, the fluid should be red and translucent. If it is another color, the
fluid should be drained and refilled. The hesitation could also be due to an engine miss or a clogged injector if your engine is
fuel injected. Check the condition of the spark plugs to make sure the electrodes are not coated with oil, check the spark plug
wires, distributor cap, and rotor. If it is fuel injected, try some fuel injector cleaner and see if the hesitation clears up.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Check the air filter too.





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Default Re: excessive smoke from tailpipe-couldn't perform emissions test? - 09-05-2006 , 12:10 PM



My Small comments:

I have 3 camrys; 99 (my Wife's with 71k), 94 (mine with 178k), 93
(mothers with 56k). They ALL smoke on startup in the morning if
facing slightly downhill. My driveway has a very slight downhill
grade. None of the cars will smoke (blue oil smoke) AFTER the first
morning startup even if facing slightly downhill. They all pass Mass
emissions testing after they are warmed up for about 15 minutes. None
of the cars will smoke when parked on level ground or facing slightly
up hill, as when I park the cars facing up the driveway.

I don't understand this and worried about it when I had 1 Camry but I
have 3 cars doing the same thing and I do pass Mass emissions testing
on all 3. I just ignore it now.

Do you have the same symtoms?

Dan

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