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Re: Gas usage on departure??? -
04-21-2007
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Maybe some of you who love cars can explain this too me. Do you lose more fuel if you take off faster from your location? i.e. intersection? Does it matter if you gas it or creep? make sense? |
I was teaching truck drivers I used a combination of two tecniques,
defensive driving and the "Smith System". I took Liberty Mutuals
"decision driving" but liked the other two methods better. Situational
awareness is the biggest part of both systems. What I found managing a
large fleet of over the road and local delivery trucks was that the
drivers with the lowest accident rates and least problems with their
vehicles also had the longest intervals between brake jobs. I found
that fascinating.
Ron
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On Apr 20, 4:56 pm, "Go Mavs" <GoM... (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote: Maybe some of you who love cars can explain this too me. Do you lose more fuel if you take off faster from your location? i.e. intersection? Does it matter if you gas it or creep? make sense? What Jeff Strickland is saying is, in effect, defensive driving. When I was teaching truck drivers I used a combination of two tecniques, defensive driving and the "Smith System". I took Liberty Mutuals "decision driving" but liked the other two methods better. Situational awareness is the biggest part of both systems. What I found managing a large fleet of over the road and local delivery trucks was that the drivers with the lowest accident rates and least problems with their vehicles also had the longest intervals between brake jobs. I found that fascinating. Ron |
I'd like to hear more about your method of teaching....sounds
fascinating.
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Scott in Florida
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"Go Mavs" ... Maybe some of you who love cars can explain this too me. Do you lose more fuel if you take off faster from your location? i.e. intersection? Does it matter if you gas it or creep? make sense? IN A RELATED MATTER It is also a good idea from a fuel consumption perspective to maintain a longer following distance and to reduce your speed by lifting off the gas pecdal when you notice the next light is red. If you follow by a longer distance, 3 or 4 seconds instead of 1 or 2, then you can adjust your speed by lifting off the gas when you see brakes lights ahead. Many times, you can coast as traffic slows, then regain your speed gradually as it gets going again, all without applying the brakes. If you drive in a manner that requires the use of brakes, then you also are likely to use the gas too agressively. If traffic is moving along at any speed, and youi follow by about 3 seconds, you may find that you can avoid the use of the brakes in about 80% of the times when the driver ahead is using his. I used to drive a winding mountain road on my commute, and I noticed that the guy ahead of me used his brakes on nearly every turn, and I was able to simply lift off the gas and coast the entire way down the grade. I would select whichever gear in wanted, typically 4th or 5th, and use the gas very lightly and never use the brakes. The cars in front of me would be using the brakes at every turn, and I assume the gas too. Using less gas and less brake is also more comfortable for your passengers. |
pattern. However, it will annoy some folks behind you that just gotta get
to that red light as quickly as possible. I am hoping that as gas savings
become more and more important, folks will adjust the driving habits. I
cannot hold my breath for this, but I can hope...
Tomes
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On Apr 20, 4:56 pm, "Go Mavs" <GoM... (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote: Maybe some of you who love cars can explain this too me. Do you lose more fuel if you take off faster from your location? i.e. intersection? Does it matter if you gas it or creep? make sense? What Jeff Strickland is saying is, in effect, defensive driving. When I was teaching truck drivers I used a combination of two tecniques, defensive driving and the "Smith System". I took Liberty Mutuals "decision driving" but liked the other two methods better. Situational awareness is the biggest part of both systems. What I found managing a large fleet of over the road and local delivery trucks was that the drivers with the lowest accident rates and least problems with their vehicles also had the longest intervals between brake jobs. I found that fascinating. Ron |
I would go so far as to suggest that those drivers had the longest lasting
clutches as well. Of course, if a truck/tractor was rotated around the the
driver pool, this might not be able to be judged.
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I agree with this completely, and practice this as my normal driving pattern. However, it will annoy some folks behind you that just gotta get to that red light as quickly as possible. I am hoping that as gas savings become more and more important, folks will adjust the driving habits. I cannot hold my breath for this, but I can hope... Tomes |
patterns are wasteful. I think they are aware of the concept, but that they
are blind to fact that they fall into a wasteful pattern.
Jeff
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"Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4O9Wh.54$1M1.6 (AT) trnddc01 (DOT) .. Maybe some of you who love cars can explain this too me. Do you lose more fuel if you take off faster from your location? i.e. intersection? Does it matter if you gas it or creep? make sense? IN A RELATED MATTER It is also a good idea from a fuel consumption perspective to maintain a longer following distance and to reduce your speed by lifting off the gas pecdal when you notice the next light is red. If you follow by a longer distance, 3 or 4 seconds instead of 1 or 2, then you can adjust your speed by lifting off the gas when you see brakes lights ahead. Many times, you can coast as traffic slows, then regain your speed gradually as it gets going again, all without applying the brakes. If you drive in a manner that requires the use of brakes, then you also are likely to use the gas too agressively. If traffic is moving along at any speed, and youi follow by about 3 seconds, you may find that you can avoid the use of the brakes in about 80% of the times when the driver ahead is using his. I used to drive a winding mountain road on my commute, and I noticed that the guy ahead of me used his brakes on nearly every turn, and I was able to simply lift off the gas and coast the entire way down the grade. I would select whichever gear in wanted, typically 4th or 5th, and use the gas very lightly and never use the brakes. The cars in front of me would be using the brakes at every turn, and I assume the gas too. Using less gas and less brake is also more comfortable for your passengers. |
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"Jeff Strickland" ... "Go Mavs" ... Maybe some of you who love cars can explain this too me. Do you lose more fuel if you take off faster from your location? i.e. intersection? Does it matter if you gas it or creep? make sense? IN A RELATED MATTER It is also a good idea from a fuel consumption perspective to maintain a longer following distance and to reduce your speed by lifting off the gas pecdal when you notice the next light is red. If you follow by a longer distance, 3 or 4 seconds instead of 1 or 2, then you can adjust your speed by lifting off the gas when you see brakes lights ahead. Many times, you can coast as traffic slows, then regain your speed gradually as it gets going again, all without applying the brakes. If you drive in a manner that requires the use of brakes, then you also are likely to use the gas too agressively. If traffic is moving along at any speed, and youi follow by about 3 seconds, you may find that you can avoid the use of the brakes in about 80% of the times when the driver ahead is using his. I used to drive a winding mountain road on my commute, and I noticed that the guy ahead of me used his brakes on nearly every turn, and I was able to simply lift off the gas and coast the entire way down the grade. I would select whichever gear in wanted, typically 4th or 5th, and use the gas very lightly and never use the brakes. The cars in front of me would be using the brakes at every turn, and I assume the gas too. Using less gas and less brake is also more comfortable for your passengers. I agree with this completely, and practice this as my normal driving pattern. However, it will annoy some folks behind you that just gotta get to that red light as quickly as possible. I am hoping that as gas savings become more and more important, folks will adjust the driving habits. I cannot hold my breath for this, but I can hope... Tomes |
about how you drive.
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Thanks! "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message news:9ArWh.565$A72.187 (AT) trnddc07 (DOT) .. "Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4O9Wh.54$1M1.6 (AT) trnddc01 (DOT) .. Maybe some of you who love cars can explain this too me. Do you lose more fuel if you take off faster from your location? i.e. intersection? Does it matter if you gas it or creep? make sense? IN A RELATED MATTER It is also a good idea from a fuel consumption perspective to maintain a longer following distance and to reduce your speed by lifting off the gas pecdal when you notice the next light is red. If you follow by a longer distance, 3 or 4 seconds instead of 1 or 2, then you can adjust your speed by lifting off the gas when you see brakes lights ahead. Many times, you can coast as traffic slows, then regain your speed gradually as it gets going again, all without applying the brakes. If you drive in a manner that requires the use of brakes, then you also are likely to use the gas too agressively. If traffic is moving along at any speed, and youi follow by about 3 seconds, you may find that you can avoid the use of the brakes in about 80% of the times when the driver ahead is using his. I used to drive a winding mountain road on my commute, and I noticed that the guy ahead of me used his brakes on nearly every turn, and I was able to simply lift off the gas and coast the entire way down the grade. I would select whichever gear in wanted, typically 4th or 5th, and use the gas very lightly and never use the brakes. The cars in front of me would be using the brakes at every turn, and I assume the gas too. Using less gas and less brake is also more comfortable for your passengers. |
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"Reasoned Insanity" ... I have actually been recently thinking about asking about shifting the transmission like that. I do it all the time and usually get about 32mpg combined city/hw when my car is only rated for 30. Not bad for a 17 year old Geo. I puzzled a friend of mine the other day when I told him my car was an automatic, but I drive it like a stick. What do you do exactly? Do you move the gear shift lever? Or do you use a foot technique. The reason I am curious, is that if you are using the lever, it only limits what gear it tops out at, instead of forcing it into a higher gear. Curious Tomes |
I use a foot technique and just let off the gas slightly so it goes up in
gears when I want it to.
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"Tomes" ... I agree with this completely, and practice this as my normal driving pattern. However, it will annoy some folks behind you that just gotta get to that red light as quickly as possible. I am hoping that as gas savings become more and more important, folks will adjust the driving habits. I cannot hold my breath for this, but I can hope... Tomes You're making the assumption that people are even aware that their driving patterns are wasteful. I think they are aware of the concept, but that they are blind to fact that they fall into a wasteful pattern. Jeff I think that people fall into many categories, and many of them overlap. |
that can be managed. There is also a category of people that drive
aggressively because they are aggressive as their normal way of life.
There are likely hundreds of other categories that make folks be annoyed
by other folks. The category of not being aware is certainly one that
applies here.
Tomes
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