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Default Yaris 2007 - 05-03-2007 , 07:34 PM







Just wondering one weird thing about the 4-gear automatic transmission in
this car.

When engine and transmission are cold and after I started the engine and
start driving, the transmission stay lock in second gear (not the third, the
second gear...) for one or two hundred feet then finally goes in third for a
while as it warms up then the overdrive gear can kick in.
I do know many automatic transmission stay locked in third gear until they
warm up but... the second gear is new for me.

Is it normal?

Octavio



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Default Re: Yaris 2007 - 05-03-2007 , 09:00 PM







"Viperkiller" <nothing (AT) nothing (DOT) net> wrote

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On Thu, 3 May 2007 19:34:13 -0400, "Octavio" <octo22 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:


Just wondering one weird thing about the 4-gear automatic transmission in
this car.

When engine and transmission are cold and after I started the engine and
start driving, the transmission stay lock in second gear (not the third,
the
second gear...) for one or two hundred feet then finally goes in third for
a
while as it warms up then the overdrive gear can kick in.
I do know many automatic transmission stay locked in third gear until they
warm up but... the second gear is new for me.

Is it normal?

Octavio


Nothing seems out of place. Holding 2nd gear instead of 3rd means
that it's trying to get up to operating temperature sooner. Nothing
wrong with that is there?
Not a car to get immediately on a highway when it's locked in second gear
unless you run the engine in high RPM. Better warm it up on the service road

The manufacturer should warn people of this fact.




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Default Re: Yaris 2007 - 05-03-2007 , 09:25 PM



On Thu, 3 May 2007 19:34:13 -0400, "Octavio" <octo22 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Just wondering one weird thing about the 4-gear automatic transmission in
this car.

When engine and transmission are cold and after I started the engine and
start driving, the transmission stay lock in second gear (not the third, the
second gear...) for one or two hundred feet then finally goes in third for a
while as it warms up then the overdrive gear can kick in.
I do know many automatic transmission stay locked in third gear until they
warm up but... the second gear is new for me.

Is it normal?

Octavio

Nothing seems out of place. Holding 2nd gear instead of 3rd means
that it's trying to get up to operating temperature sooner. Nothing
wrong with that is there?


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Default Re: Yaris 2007 - 05-03-2007 , 10:00 PM



maybe I am wrong or misunderstanding you...

but i read that certain gears can only kick in as you get to a certain
speed.. try the manual.


"Octavio" <octo22 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Just wondering one weird thing about the 4-gear automatic transmission in
this car.

When engine and transmission are cold and after I started the engine and
start driving, the transmission stay lock in second gear (not the third,
the second gear...) for one or two hundred feet then finally goes in third
for a while as it warms up then the overdrive gear can kick in.
I do know many automatic transmission stay locked in third gear until they
warm up but... the second gear is new for me.

Is it normal?

Octavio





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Default Re: Yaris 2007 - 05-04-2007 , 01:53 AM




"Octavio" <octo22 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Just wondering one weird thing about the 4-gear automatic transmission in
this car.

When engine and transmission are cold and after I started the engine and
start driving, the transmission stay lock in second gear (not the third,
the second gear...) for one or two hundred feet then finally goes in third
for a while as it warms up then the overdrive gear can kick in.
I do know many automatic transmission stay locked in third gear until they
warm up but... the second gear is new for me.

Is it normal?

Octavio

That is normal operation of the automatic transmission. If you were to
immediately drive at higher speed, the transmission would upshift from 2nd
to 3rd.
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Ray O
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Default Re: Yaris 2007 - 05-04-2007 , 02:13 AM




"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote

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"Octavio" <octo22 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:Vju_h.14137$pA6.85916 (AT) weber (DOT) videotron.net...

Just wondering one weird thing about the 4-gear automatic transmission in
this car.

When engine and transmission are cold and after I started the engine and
start driving, the transmission stay lock in second gear (not the third,
the second gear...) for one or two hundred feet then finally goes in
third for a while as it warms up then the overdrive gear can kick in.
I do know many automatic transmission stay locked in third gear until
they warm up but... the second gear is new for me.

Is it normal?

Octavio

That is normal operation of the automatic transmission. If you were to
immediately drive at higher speed, the transmission would upshift from 2nd
to 3rd.

I think the order of opperation is 23 miles and then 46 miles... or
something like that...





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Default Re: Yaris 2007 - 05-04-2007 , 11:41 AM




"Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote

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"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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"Octavio" <octo22 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:Vju_h.14137$pA6.85916 (AT) weber (DOT) videotron.net...

Just wondering one weird thing about the 4-gear automatic transmission
in this car.

When engine and transmission are cold and after I started the engine and
start driving, the transmission stay lock in second gear (not the third,
the second gear...) for one or two hundred feet then finally goes in
third for a while as it warms up then the overdrive gear can kick in.
I do know many automatic transmission stay locked in third gear until
they warm up but... the second gear is new for me.

Is it normal?

Octavio

That is normal operation of the automatic transmission. If you were to
immediately drive at higher speed, the transmission would upshift from
2nd to 3rd.


I think the order of opperation is 23 miles and then 46 miles... or
something like that...

Transmission shifting has nothing to do with distance traveled. The
transmission ECU determines shift points, gear, and torque converter lock
based on engine coolant temperature, throttle position, engine RPM, road
speed, and transmission's current gear and torque converter status.
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Default Re: Yaris 2007 - 05-04-2007 , 05:01 PM




"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote

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"Octavio" <octo22 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:Vju_h.14137$pA6.85916 (AT) weber (DOT) videotron.net...

Just wondering one weird thing about the 4-gear automatic transmission in
this car.

When engine and transmission are cold and after I started the engine and
start driving, the transmission stay lock in second gear (not the third,
the second gear...) for one or two hundred feet then finally goes in
third for a while as it warms up then the overdrive gear can kick in.
I do know many automatic transmission stay locked in third gear until
they warm up but... the second gear is new for me.

Is it normal?

Octavio

That is normal operation of the automatic transmission. If you were to
immediately drive at higher speed, the transmission would upshift from 2nd
to 3rd.
--
Nope, it won't! It *stays* in 2nd for a few hundred feet. I can rev the
engine to 5000RPM and it won't shift in 3rd.
Once warmed up, everything is ok as expected from from an automatic.




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Default Re: Yaris 2007 - 05-04-2007 , 05:07 PM



Octavio <octo22 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
"Octavio" <octo22 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message

Just wondering one weird thing about the 4-gear automatic
transmission in this car.

When engine and transmission are cold and after I started the engine and
start driving, the transmission stay lock in second gear (not the third,
the second gear...) for one or two hundred feet then finally goes in
third for a while as it warms up then the overdrive gear can kick in.
I do know many automatic transmission stay locked in third gear until
they warm up but... the second gear is new for me.

Is it normal?

That is normal operation of the automatic transmission. If you
were to immediately drive at higher speed, the transmission would
upshift from 2nd to 3rd.

Nope, it won't! It *stays* in 2nd for a few hundred feet. I can
rev the engine to 5000RPM and it won't shift in 3rd. Once warmed
up, everything is ok as expected from from an automatic.
I have noticed the same thing on my 2006 Yaris. In cold weather the
auto will not shift from second into third until it has warmed up at
least a little. You end up driving down the street with the revs
really high because it doesn't shift. I don't know if this means
that you should let the car warm up. I thought that warmups for
modern cars were generally unnecessary.

cordially, as always,

rm


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Default Re: Yaris 2007 - 05-04-2007 , 05:51 PM




"Octavio" <octo22 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
news:e69$463acba7$47c2b532$20317 (AT) msgid (DOT) meganewsservers.com...

"Octavio" <octo22 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:Vju_h.14137$pA6.85916 (AT) weber (DOT) videotron.net...

Just wondering one weird thing about the 4-gear automatic transmission
in this car.

When engine and transmission are cold and after I started the engine and
start driving, the transmission stay lock in second gear (not the third,
the second gear...) for one or two hundred feet then finally goes in
third for a while as it warms up then the overdrive gear can kick in.
I do know many automatic transmission stay locked in third gear until
they warm up but... the second gear is new for me.

Is it normal?

Octavio

That is normal operation of the automatic transmission. If you were to
immediately drive at higher speed, the transmission would upshift from
2nd to 3rd.
--

Nope, it won't! It *stays* in 2nd for a few hundred feet. I can rev the
engine to 5000RPM and it won't shift in 3rd.
Once warmed up, everything is ok as expected from from an automatic.
If it is still in warranty, take it back to the dealer.

Jeff

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