long-lived chrysler

#1

I drove an old lady's Chrysler minivan last night that had 191K miles
on it. It was one of those that has thin headlights, mid-90's model I
think. Anyway I was rather impressed with its solidness and lack of
rattles, squeaks, clunks, etc. She was the third owner and said all
she had to have done other than routine maintenance was a fuel pump
and brakes. It still had good pep and the transmission shifted
smoothly.

By contrast my 97 Camry has many rattles, squeaks, shot struts and
other things with 135K miles on it. When I bought it at 62K miles it
was blowing smoke and had to have the engine rebuilt by the dealer.
It has been mostly good since then other than the noises.

Of course this doesn't mean I will buy a Chrysler but hopefully the
quality of domestic brands has improved since I last owned one. If
you were to buy a domestic brand today what would it be?

#2

"badgolferman" <badgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

I drove an old lady's Chrysler minivan last night that had 191K miles
on it. It was one of those that has thin headlights, mid-90's model I
think. Anyway I was rather impressed with its solidness and lack of
rattles, squeaks, clunks, etc. She was the third owner and said all
she had to have done other than routine maintenance was a fuel pump
and brakes. It still had good pep and the transmission shifted
smoothly.

By contrast my 97 Camry has many rattles, squeaks, shot struts and
other things with 135K miles on it. When I bought it at 62K miles it
was blowing smoke and had to have the engine rebuilt by the dealer.
It has been mostly good since then other than the noises.

Of course this doesn't mean I will buy a Chrysler but hopefully the
quality of domestic brands has improved since I last owned one. If
you were to buy a domestic brand today what would it be?

Try driving behind that van. Even 2-3 year old Chrysler van engines stink
like a 40 year old car. Oil, or something. Rumor has it that certain engine
parts were made of cardboard.

#3

"badgolferman" <badgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

I drove an old lady's Chrysler minivan last night that had 191K miles
on it. It was one of those that has thin headlights, mid-90's model I
think. Anyway I was rather impressed with its solidness and lack of
rattles, squeaks, clunks, etc. She was the third owner and said all
she had to have done other than routine maintenance was a fuel pump
and brakes. It still had good pep and the transmission shifted
smoothly.

By contrast my 97 Camry has many rattles, squeaks, shot struts and
other things with 135K miles on it. When I bought it at 62K miles it
was blowing smoke and had to have the engine rebuilt by the dealer.
It has been mostly good since then other than the noises.

Of course this doesn't mean I will buy a Chrysler but hopefully the
quality of domestic brands has improved since I last owned one. If
you were to buy a domestic brand today what would it be?

Ford.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

#4

The bad van engines were made in Japan by Mitsubishi for Chrysler. They
were the ones with the blue smoke. The US built engines are just fine.
Noisier than Toyota and Honda engines but the van engines hold up great.
The only problem engine they had in recent years was the 2.7 with a sludge
problem but Toyota had its own sludge problems too. Chrysler fixed it with
a newly designed PCV system.

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

"badgolferman" <badgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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I drove an old lady's Chrysler minivan last night that had 191K miles
on it. It was one of those that has thin headlights, mid-90's model I
think. Anyway I was rather impressed with its solidness and lack of
rattles, squeaks, clunks, etc. She was the third owner and said all
she had to have done other than routine maintenance was a fuel pump
and brakes. It still had good pep and the transmission shifted
smoothly.

By contrast my 97 Camry has many rattles, squeaks, shot struts and
other things with 135K miles on it. When I bought it at 62K miles it
was blowing smoke and had to have the engine rebuilt by the dealer.
It has been mostly good since then other than the noises.

Of course this doesn't mean I will buy a Chrysler but hopefully the
quality of domestic brands has improved since I last owned one. If
you were to buy a domestic brand today what would it be?

Try driving behind that van. Even 2-3 year old Chrysler van engines stink
like a 40 year old car. Oil, or something. Rumor has it that certain
engine parts were made of cardboard.

#5

On 14 May 2007 07:27:48 -0700, badgolferman <badgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:

I drove an old lady's Chrysler minivan last night that had 191K miles
on it. It was one of those that has thin headlights, mid-90's model I
think. Anyway I was rather impressed with its solidness and lack of
rattles, squeaks, clunks, etc. She was the third owner and said all
she had to have done other than routine maintenance was a fuel pump
and brakes. It still had good pep and the transmission shifted
smoothly.

but how many transmissions/engines/... did the prvious 2 owners
replace on it ?

Quote:

By contrast my 97 Camry has many rattles, squeaks, shot struts and
other things with 135K miles on it. When I bought it at 62K miles it
was blowing smoke and had to have the engine rebuilt by the dealer.
It has been mostly good since then other than the noises.

Of course this doesn't mean I will buy a Chrysler but hopefully the
quality of domestic brands has improved since I last owned one. If
you were to buy a domestic brand today what would it be?

#6

On 14 May 2007 07:27:48 -0700, badgolferman <badgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:

I drove an old lady's Chrysler minivan last night that had 191K miles
on it. It was one of those that has thin headlights, mid-90's model I
think. Anyway I was rather impressed with its solidness and lack of
rattles, squeaks, clunks, etc. She was the third owner and said all
she had to have done other than routine maintenance was a fuel pump
and brakes. It still had good pep and the transmission shifted
smoothly.

By contrast my 97 Camry has many rattles, squeaks, shot struts and
other things with 135K miles on it. When I bought it at 62K miles it
was blowing smoke and had to have the engine rebuilt by the dealer.
It has been mostly good since then other than the noises.

Of course this doesn't mean I will buy a Chrysler but hopefully the
quality of domestic brands has improved since I last owned one. If
you were to buy a domestic brand today what would it be?

I think I'd buy another Ford product. I bought a brand new 2000 Merc
Grand Marquis and I love it. This is after owning 3 mid-90's Chrysler
products and replacing/rebuilding the transmissions in all three
before they hit 70k miles. The Merc is an old fashioned design with
nothing newer than multi-port fuel injection. It's a 1940's design,
push-rod V-8 updated with electronic engine management. It's a rear
wheel drive platform with a solid feel and fair handling / ride. It
has required absolutely no major maintenance, not even tune-ups in the
seven years and 55k miles that I've owned it.

My only complaint is that it only gets around 28 to 29 mpg on the
highway. That's why we also own an '07 Toyota Corolla.

Jack

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#7

"Must be Me" <jackj^remove^180 (AT) windstream (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

On 14 May 2007 07:27:48 -0700, badgolferman <badgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:

I drove an old lady's Chrysler minivan last night that had 191K miles
on it. It was one of those that has thin headlights, mid-90's model I
think. Anyway I was rather impressed with its solidness and lack of
rattles, squeaks, clunks, etc. She was the third owner and said all
she had to have done other than routine maintenance was a fuel pump
and brakes. It still had good pep and the transmission shifted
smoothly.

By contrast my 97 Camry has many rattles, squeaks, shot struts and
other things with 135K miles on it. When I bought it at 62K miles it
was blowing smoke and had to have the engine rebuilt by the dealer.
It has been mostly good since then other than the noises.

Of course this doesn't mean I will buy a Chrysler but hopefully the
quality of domestic brands has improved since I last owned one. If
you were to buy a domestic brand today what would it be?

I think I'd buy another Ford product. I bought a brand new 2000 Merc
Grand Marquis and I love it. This is after owning 3 mid-90's Chrysler
products and replacing/rebuilding the transmissions in all three
before they hit 70k miles. The Merc is an old fashioned design with
nothing newer than multi-port fuel injection. It's a 1940's design,
push-rod V-8 updated with electronic engine management. It's a rear
wheel drive platform with a solid feel and fair handling / ride. It
has required absolutely no major maintenance, not even tune-ups in the
seven years and 55k miles that I've owned it.

My only complaint is that it only gets around 28 to 29 mpg on the
highway. That's why we also own an '07 Toyota Corolla.

Jack

Does your Merc have the Grand Marquis have the upgraded suspension, whatever
they call it?

#8

that was someone who didnt take care of your camry...

"badgolferman" <badgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

I drove an old lady's Chrysler minivan last night that had 191K miles
on it. It was one of those that has thin headlights, mid-90's model I
think. Anyway I was rather impressed with its solidness and lack of
rattles, squeaks, clunks, etc. She was the third owner and said all
she had to have done other than routine maintenance was a fuel pump
and brakes. It still had good pep and the transmission shifted
smoothly.

By contrast my 97 Camry has many rattles, squeaks, shot struts and
other things with 135K miles on it. When I bought it at 62K miles it
was blowing smoke and had to have the engine rebuilt by the dealer.
It has been mostly good since then other than the noises.

Of course this doesn't mean I will buy a Chrysler but hopefully the
quality of domestic brands has improved since I last owned one. If
you were to buy a domestic brand today what would it be?

#9

"Must be Me" <jackj^remove^180 (AT) windstream (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

On 14 May 2007 07:27:48 -0700, badgolferman <badgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:

I drove an old lady's Chrysler minivan last night that had 191K miles
on it. It was one of those that has thin headlights, mid-90's model I
think. Anyway I was rather impressed with its solidness and lack of
rattles, squeaks, clunks, etc. She was the third owner and said all
she had to have done other than routine maintenance was a fuel pump
and brakes. It still had good pep and the transmission shifted
smoothly.

By contrast my 97 Camry has many rattles, squeaks, shot struts and
other things with 135K miles on it. When I bought it at 62K miles it
was blowing smoke and had to have the engine rebuilt by the dealer.
It has been mostly good since then other than the noises.

Of course this doesn't mean I will buy a Chrysler but hopefully the
quality of domestic brands has improved since I last owned one. If
you were to buy a domestic brand today what would it be?

I think I'd buy another Ford product. I bought a brand new 2000 Merc
Grand Marquis and I love it. This is after owning 3 mid-90's Chrysler
products and replacing/rebuilding the transmissions in all three
before they hit 70k miles. The Merc is an old fashioned design with
nothing newer than multi-port fuel injection. It's a 1940's design,
push-rod V-8 updated with electronic engine management. It's a rear
wheel drive platform with a solid feel and fair handling / ride. It
has required absolutely no major maintenance, not even tune-ups in the
seven years and 55k miles that I've owned it.

My only complaint is that it only gets around 28 to 29 mpg on the
highway. That's why we also own an '07 Toyota Corolla.

Jack

Ford has had plenty of time to work out any bugs and refine those cars, and

they are a pretty good bargain.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

#10

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote

Quote:

On Tue, 15 May 2007 00:11:10 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Must be Me" <jackj^remove^180 (AT) windstream (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:umth43hheqvt7tce3punm9ku1fnif28g12 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
On 14 May 2007 07:27:48 -0700, badgolferman <badgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:

I drove an old lady's Chrysler minivan last night that had 191K miles on
it. It was one of those that has thin headlights, mid-90's model I
think. Anyway I was rather impressed with its solidness and lack of
rattles, squeaks, clunks, etc. She was the third owner and said all she
had to have done other than routine maintenance was a fuel pump and
brakes. It still had good pep and the transmission shifted smoothly.

By contrast my 97 Camry has many rattles, squeaks, shot struts and other
things with 135K miles on it. When I bought it at 62K miles it was
blowing smoke and had to have the engine rebuilt by the dealer. It has
been mostly good since then other than the noises.

Of course this doesn't mean I will buy a Chrysler but hopefully the
quality of domestic brands has improved since I last owned one. If you
were to buy a domestic brand today what would it be?

I think I'd buy another Ford product. I bought a brand new 2000 Merc
Grand Marquis and I love it. This is after owning 3 mid-90's Chrysler
products and replacing/rebuilding the transmissions in all three before
they hit 70k miles. The Merc is an old fashioned design with nothing
newer than multi-port fuel injection. It's a 1940's design, push-rod
V-8 updated with electronic engine management. It's a rear wheel drive
platform with a solid feel and fair handling / ride. It has required
absolutely no major maintenance, not even tune-ups in the seven years
and 55k miles that I've owned it.

My only complaint is that it only gets around 28 to 29 mpg on the
highway. That's why we also own an '07 Toyota Corolla.

Jack

Does your Merc have the Grand Marquis have the upgraded suspension,
whatever they call it?

It's the 'police package', although they call it something like the
'performance package'.

If you get the upgraded suspension, the towing package, and opt for the HO
engine, you essentially have a police car!

And they handle GREAT!

Yeah, I test drove one. Very nice handling. But, at the time, they weren't
offering it without a package of other stuff including leather seats.
There's something about the smell of Ford leather seats that reminds me of
of puke. I don't know why. Leather seats in a Lexus or Mercedes don't have
that kind of smell.

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