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Default low speed vibration - 02-26-2009 , 08:25 AM






My 97 Camry has developed a vibration at low speeds. It seems to be
coming from the right front area and isn't apparent anymore after
getting above 45 MPH. I suppose it could be a tire but am suspicious
of the motor mounts and/or front axle. Any hints on how to determine
the cause before taking it in?





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Default Re: low speed vibration - 02-26-2009 , 08:47 AM







"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
My 97 Camry has developed a vibration at low speeds. It seems to be
coming from the right front area and isn't apparent anymore after
getting above 45 MPH. I suppose it could be a tire but am
suspicious
of the motor mounts and/or front axle. Any hints on how to
determine
the cause before taking it in?
My first step would be to rotate the tires front to rear and see if
that changes the vibration.

Any change in the vibration when turing, accelerating, or applying the
brakes? What happens if you use a lower gear (assuming this is an
automatic). Where do you feel the vibration (steering wheel, body
shake, etc).

Have you checked the boots on the front axle? How many miles on the
car? If the boots ae good, and you have less than 100k miles I would
be surprised if it was the axle. If you have a lot of miles, have you
considered it might be the ball joints or tie rod ends?

Ed





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Default Re: low speed vibration - 02-26-2009 , 08:47 AM




"Conscience" <nobama (AT) gov (DOT) com> wrote

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On 2009-02-26 05:25:49 -0800, "badgolferman"
REMOVETHISbadgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> said:

My 97 Camry has developed a vibration at low speeds. It seems to be
coming from the right front area and isn't apparent anymore after
getting above 45 MPH. I suppose it could be a tire but am suspicious
of the motor mounts and/or front axle. Any hints on how to determine
the cause before taking it in?

Rotate the tires first. If that's not the cause, open the hood and watch
the engine while someone else starts the car. If it wobbles a lot, that
might indicate a bad motor mount. Another possibility is a bad strut.

Good luck. I'm outta here until next week. Got a plane to catch.

What really scary is having a motor mount bolt come out and to have the
engine resting on a fender. That happened in my first car.




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Default Re: low speed vibration - 02-26-2009 , 09:29 AM



C. E. White wrote:

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"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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My 97 Camry has developed a vibration at low speeds. It seems to be
coming from the right front area and isn't apparent anymore after
getting above 45 MPH. I suppose it could be a tire but am
suspicious of the motor mounts and/or front axle. Any hints on how
to determine the cause before taking it in?

My first step would be to rotate the tires front to rear and see if
that changes the vibration.
Mine too.

Quote:
Any change in the vibration when turing, accelerating, or applying
the brakes? What happens if you use a lower gear (assuming this is an
automatic). Where do you feel the vibration (steering wheel, body
shake, etc).
Don't remember if there is a change. I feel the vibration in the
steering wheel and the body. The steering wheel wiggles a bit left to
right and the vibration can be felt down by my feet.

Quote:
Have you checked the boots on the front axle? How many miles on the
car? If the boots ae good, and you have less than 100k miles I would
be surprised if it was the axle. If you have a lot of miles, have you
considered it might be the ball joints or tie rod ends?
I checked the boots last time I changed the oil and they seemed fine.
The car has 160K miles. I am worried of the mechanical components you
mentioned also.


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Default Re: low speed vibration - 02-26-2009 , 09:39 AM




"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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C. E. White wrote:


"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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My 97 Camry has developed a vibration at low speeds. It seems to
be
coming from the right front area and isn't apparent anymore after
getting above 45 MPH. I suppose it could be a tire but am
suspicious of the motor mounts and/or front axle. Any hints on how
to determine the cause before taking it in?

My first step would be to rotate the tires front to rear and see if
that changes the vibration.

Mine too.

Any change in the vibration when turing, accelerating, or applying
the brakes? What happens if you use a lower gear (assuming this is
an
automatic). Where do you feel the vibration (steering wheel, body
shake, etc).

Don't remember if there is a change. I feel the vibration in the
steering wheel and the body. The steering wheel wiggles a bit left
to
right and the vibration can be felt down by my feet.

Have you checked the boots on the front axle? How many miles on the
car? If the boots ae good, and you have less than 100k miles I would
be surprised if it was the axle. If you have a lot of miles, have
you
considered it might be the ball joints or tie rod ends?

I checked the boots last time I changed the oil and they seemed
fine.
The car has 160K miles. I am worried of the mechanical components
you
mentioned also.
Well with that sort of mileage, it could be almost anything, but I'd
still think the tires are the most likely culprit.

Years ago I had a Fiesta with high mileage that developed a front end
vibration. Like you, I suspected the front axles. Even though the
boots were good, I decided to clean and regrease the CV joints. And
this eliminated the vibration. My theory was that the grease in the
joints had gotten old and the joints were binding slightly, casuing
the vibration. I guess I was right since repacking the joints fixed
the problem.

Ed




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Default Re: low speed vibration - 02-26-2009 , 09:47 AM



On Feb 26, 7:37*am, Conscience <nob... (AT) gov (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
On 2009-02-26 05:25:49 -0800, "badgolferman"
REMOVETHISbadgolfer... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> said:

My 97 Camry has developed a vibration at low speeds. *It seems to be
coming from the right front area and isn't apparent anymore after
getting above 45 MPH. *I suppose it could be a tire but am suspicious
of the motor mounts and/or front axle. *Any hints on how to determine
the cause before taking it in?

Rotate the tires first. *If that's not the cause, open the hood and
watch the engine while someone else starts the car. *If it wobbles a
lot, that might indicate a bad motor mount. *Another possibility is a
bad strut.

Good luck. *I'm outta here until next week. *Got a plane to catch.
Agree, but maybe its the CV joint, mine was a tire with a broken belt
nobody could see even with the tire off the rim,


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Default Re: low speed vibration - 02-26-2009 , 04:06 PM




"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
C. E. White wrote:


"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:xn0g6v8l33y0zp00a (AT) reader80 (DOT) motzarella.org...
My 97 Camry has developed a vibration at low speeds. It seems to be
coming from the right front area and isn't apparent anymore after
getting above 45 MPH. I suppose it could be a tire but am
suspicious of the motor mounts and/or front axle. Any hints on how
to determine the cause before taking it in?

My first step would be to rotate the tires front to rear and see if
that changes the vibration.

Mine too.

Any change in the vibration when turing, accelerating, or applying
the brakes? What happens if you use a lower gear (assuming this is an
automatic). Where do you feel the vibration (steering wheel, body
shake, etc).

Don't remember if there is a change. I feel the vibration in the
steering wheel and the body. The steering wheel wiggles a bit left to
right and the vibration can be felt down by my feet.

Have you checked the boots on the front axle? How many miles on the
car? If the boots ae good, and you have less than 100k miles I would
be surprised if it was the axle. If you have a lot of miles, have you
considered it might be the ball joints or tie rod ends?

I checked the boots last time I changed the oil and they seemed fine.
The car has 160K miles. I am worried of the mechanical components you
mentioned also.
Besides rotating the tire, check tire pressure. A tire that is very low on
pressure can cause a wobbling sensation. Look for mud caked on the wheels.
Jack up the front of the car, support it properly on jack stands, and check
to see if there is any play in the front wheels, which could indicate a worn
ball joint or rack end. Make sure the top of the strut is still connected
to the strut mount on top of the wheel well in the engine compartment.

Bad motor mounts generally cause vibrations or noises at idle or when the
weight of the car shifts under acceleration or braking.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)




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Default Re: low speed vibration - 02-27-2009 , 07:31 AM



Ray O wrote:

Quote:
"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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C. E. White wrote:


"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:xn0g6v8l33y0zp00a (AT) reader80 (DOT) motzarella.org...
My 97 Camry has developed a vibration at low speeds. It seems
to be coming from the right front area and isn't apparent
anymore after getting above 45 MPH. I suppose it could be a
tire but am suspicious of the motor mounts and/or front axle.
Any hints on how to determine the cause before taking it in?

My first step would be to rotate the tires front to rear and see
if that changes the vibration.

Mine too.

Any change in the vibration when turing, accelerating, or applying
the brakes? What happens if you use a lower gear (assuming this
is an automatic). Where do you feel the vibration (steering
wheel, body shake, etc).

Don't remember if there is a change. I feel the vibration in the
steering wheel and the body. The steering wheel wiggles a bit left
to right and the vibration can be felt down by my feet.

Have you checked the boots on the front axle? How many miles on
the car? If the boots ae good, and you have less than 100k miles
I would be surprised if it was the axle. If you have a lot of
miles, have you considered it might be the ball joints or tie rod
ends?

I checked the boots last time I changed the oil and they seemed
fine. The car has 160K miles. I am worried of the mechanical
components you mentioned also.

Besides rotating the tire, check tire pressure. A tire that is very
low on pressure can cause a wobbling sensation. Look for mud caked
on the wheels. Jack up the front of the car, support it properly on
jack stands, and check to see if there is any play in the front
wheels, which could indicate a worn ball joint or rack end. Make
sure the top of the strut is still connected to the strut mount on
top of the wheel well in the engine compartment.

Bad motor mounts generally cause vibrations or noises at idle or when
the weight of the car shifts under acceleration or braking.
All my tires were 7-8 psi below where I normally keep them. I pumped
them up this morning and it seems to be riding better but my commute
was short so I'll check again later. Thanks for the tip, hopefully
that was the culprit.

P.S. The check engine light has not returned in two weeks. Maybe the
shift solenoid has healed itself (keeping fingers crossed).


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Default Re: low speed vibration - 02-27-2009 , 10:02 AM



On Feb 27, 6:31*am, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer... (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
wrote:
Quote:
Ray O wrote:

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:xn0g6va9d681fg00b (AT) reader80 (DOT) motzarella.org...
C. E. White wrote:

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:xn0g6v8l33y0zp00a (AT) reader80 (DOT) motzarella.org...
My 97 Camry has developed a vibration at low speeds. *It seems
to be coming from the right front area and isn't apparent
anymore after getting above 45 MPH. *I suppose it could be a
tire but am suspicious of the motor mounts and/or front axle.
Any hints on how to *determine the cause before taking it in?

My first step would be to rotate the tires front to rear and see
if that changes the vibration.

Mine too.

Any change in the vibration when turing, accelerating, or applying
the brakes? What happens if you use a lower gear (assuming this
is an automatic). Where do you feel the vibration (steering
wheel, body shake, etc).

Don't remember if there is a change. *I feel the vibration in the
steering wheel and the body. *The steering wheel wiggles a bit left
to right and the vibration can be felt down by my feet.

Have you checked the boots on the front axle? How many miles on
the car? If the boots ae good, and you have less than 100k miles
I would be surprised if it was the axle. If you have a lot of
miles, have you considered it might be the ball joints or tie rod
ends?

I checked the boots last time I changed the oil and they seemed
fine. *The car has 160K miles. *I am worried of the mechanical
components you mentioned also.

Besides rotating the tire, check tire pressure. *A tire that is very
low on pressure can cause a wobbling sensation. *Look for mud caked
on the wheels. Jack up the front of the car, support it properly on
jack stands, and check to see if there is any play in the front
wheels, which could indicate a worn ball joint or rack end. *Make
sure the top of the strut is still connected to the strut mount on
top of the wheel well in the engine compartment.

Bad motor mounts generally cause vibrations or noises at idle or when
the weight of the car shifts under acceleration or braking.

All my tires were 7-8 psi below where I normally keep them. *I pumped
them up this morning and it seems to be riding better but my commute
was short so I'll check again later. *Thanks for the tip, hopefully
that was the culprit.

P.S. *The check engine light has not returned in two weeks. *Maybe the
shift solenoid has healed itself (keeping fingers crossed).- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
If you fill up gas with the motor running sometimes the check engine
light will come on and stay on for many cycles


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Default Re: low speed vibration - 02-27-2009 , 10:51 AM






ransley wrote:

Quote:
On Feb 27, 6:31*am, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer... (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:
Ray O wrote:

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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C. E. White wrote:

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in
message >>>news:xn0g6v8l33y0zp00a (AT) reader80 (DOT) motzarella.org...
My 97 Camry has developed a vibration at low speeds. *It seems
to be coming from the right front area and isn't apparent
anymore after getting above 45 MPH. *I suppose it could be a
tire but am suspicious of the motor mounts and/or front axle.
Any hints on how to *determine the cause before taking it in?

My first step would be to rotate the tires front to rear and see
if that changes the vibration.

Mine too.

Any change in the vibration when turing, accelerating, or
applying >>>the brakes? What happens if you use a lower gear
(assuming this >>>is an automatic). Where do you feel the
vibration (steering >>>wheel, body shake, etc).

Don't remember if there is a change. *I feel the vibration in the
steering wheel and the body. *The steering wheel wiggles a bit
left >>to right and the vibration can be felt down by my feet.

Have you checked the boots on the front axle? How many miles on
the car? If the boots ae good, and you have less than 100k miles
I would be surprised if it was the axle. If you have a lot of
miles, have you considered it might be the ball joints or tie
rod >>>ends?

I checked the boots last time I changed the oil and they seemed
fine. *The car has 160K miles. *I am worried of the mechanical
components you mentioned also.

Besides rotating the tire, check tire pressure. *A tire that is
very >low on pressure can cause a wobbling sensation. *Look for
mud caked >on the wheels. Jack up the front of the car, support it
properly on >jack stands, and check to see if there is any play in
the front >wheels, which could indicate a worn ball joint or rack
end. *Make >sure the top of the strut is still connected to the
strut mount on >top of the wheel well in the engine compartment.

Bad motor mounts generally cause vibrations or noises at idle or
when >the weight of the car shifts under acceleration or braking.

All my tires were 7-8 psi below where I normally keep them. *I
pumped them up this morning and it seems to be riding better but
my commute was short so I'll check again later. *Thanks for the
tip, hopefully that was the culprit.

P.S. *The check engine light has not returned in two weeks. *Maybe
the shift solenoid has healed itself (keeping fingers crossed).-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you fill up gas with the motor running sometimes the check engine
light will come on and stay on for many cycles
I was referring to this prior conversation regarding the Check Engine
light.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.toyota/browse_frm/thread/888d6b8f1bd2384f/4b9cf27957143599?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=shift+solenoid+e# 4b9cf27957143599




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