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Re: Maximum tire life? -
11-12-2005
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Mike Hunter wrote: You certainly are entitled to your opinion but a US Senate investigation, numerous courts cases and admissions by the tire manufacture involved in the court settlements, have proven that what you believe that led you to that opinion, is wrong. Do some research on Firestones tires, WBMA  excuse me, but when is it ok for a vehicle to roll when a tire blows? i don't care if it's tread separation, broken bottle or gunshot, NO VEHICLE SHOULD EVER ROLL AS THE RESULT OF A FLAT. |
neighbor just totaled her Explorer when it slid wide on a wet corner
(first rain of the season in California is a bad, bad thing). When the
car hit the curb, boom, over it goes.
People have been buying these tall vehicles thinking they are getting
safety, but what they are really getting is a much higher probability of
rolling over and the privledge of blocking the line of site for those of
use driving reasonable sedans and station wagons.
Several years ago my in-laws rolled their Explorer on a narrow road when
swerving to avoid an accident. That vehicle, and many similar ones, is
a top heavy monster with tall sidewall tires and is very, very easy to
roll. Neither of the two people I'm talking about are agressive
drivers and they have never rolled any of their other vehicles.
In the Firestone situation I see two problems. First, Firestone made a
bunch of tires which were more failure prone under high heat conditions
than are most tires. Second, the Explorer is a top heavy short vehicle
which is very easy to roll over. Combine the two and you have a bunch
of accidents.
John
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:24:47 -0800, Jeff Strickland wrote: "Steve" <amkb (AT) bnd (DOT) inv> wrote in message news:v4t6n1prs0t6iao1328f825c60ua7nch0p (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... Excerpts from http://online.wsj.com/article/SB113158615653093082.html Bridgestone has broken ranks with the rest of the US rubber industry in recommending a maximum life span for passenger and light-truck tires. In a recent technical bulletin to its dealers, the tire maker said all tires - including spares - that are more than 10 years old should be replaced, regardless of their external appearance. The company cited the same recommendation issued in September by the Japan Automotive Tire Manufacturers Association. snip rest I was under the impression that 10 years was standard on the life of a tire. I bought a new spare a few years ago because the one I had (a full-size spare) was in excess of 10 years old. Whistling...> (still has the original spare in his '85 Corolla GTS AND his '85 Celica GTS...) |
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jim beam wrote: Mike Hunter wrote: You certainly are entitled to your opinion but a US Senate investigation, numerous courts cases and admissions by the tire manufacture involved in the court settlements, have proven that what you believe that led you to that opinion, is wrong. Do some research on Firestones tires, WBMA excuse me, but when is it ok for a vehicle to roll when a tire blows? i don't care if it's tread separation, broken bottle or gunshot, NO VEHICLE SHOULD EVER ROLL AS THE RESULT OF A FLAT. Explorers and similar vehicles are top heavy and very easy to roll. My neighbor just totaled her Explorer when it slid wide on a wet corner (first rain of the season in California is a bad, bad thing). When the car hit the curb, boom, over it goes. People have been buying these tall vehicles thinking they are getting safety, but what they are really getting is a much higher probability of rolling over and the privledge of blocking the line of site for those of use driving reasonable sedans and station wagons. Several years ago my in-laws rolled their Explorer on a narrow road when swerving to avoid an accident. That vehicle, and many similar ones, is a top heavy monster with tall sidewall tires and is very, very easy to roll. Neither of the two people I'm talking about are agressive drivers and they have never rolled any of their other vehicles. In the Firestone situation I see two problems. First, Firestone made a bunch of tires which were more failure prone under high heat conditions than are most tires. Second, the Explorer is a top heavy short vehicle which is very easy to roll over. Combine the two and you have a bunch of accidents. John |
don't care if the tire's been shot out with a rocket propelled grenade
or if the tread has separated, the vehicle should not roll!!! and it
was known by the manufacturer that this vehicle had an exaggerated roll
propensity before it even went on sale. fact is, tire has nothing to do
with it. statistically, firestone had no greater failure rate than any
other tire, but the whitewash [and firestone's ineptitude at recognising
a political scapegoating exercise] made accusations of "it's the tire's
fault" stick. but hey, we all know that if the lie is big enough and
repeated often enough...
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Whistling...> (still has the original spare in his '85 Corolla GTS AND his '85 Celica GTS...) |
the car are ok....
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In the Firestone situation I see two problems. First, Firestone made a bunch of tires which were more failure prone under high heat conditions than are most tires. ok, but let me ask again, why does it matter what brand the tire is? fact is, tire has nothing to do with it. statistically, firestone had no greater failure rate than any other tire, but the whitewash [and firestone's ineptitude at recognising a political scapegoating exercise] |
their needs, I disagree that Firestone had "nothing to do with it." I'm
no tire expert, but I know a good enough amount to determine by a visual
inspection of those Firestone tires that they were of an inferior
quality. (AAMOF, I've NEVER seen a Firestone tire that looks like
quality rubber.) Part of the lawsuit should have been how CHEAP Ford was
in their selection of OEM tires for that particular vehicle. I wonder
how serious the problem would have been were they Michelins?
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