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Re: America's best car company -
03-08-2007
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On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 02:11:37 GMT, "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote: I do think Ford, GM and Chrysler, if it gets free of Diamler, have the possibility of being good, solid companies once again. However, they have to change their ways That will never happen. When bean counters rule the roost the company can't succeed in today's market. The big three seem to use computers to design pieces to just last the warranty period. It seems (at least to me) that Toyota designs parts to last a lot longer than the warranty period....and when they have a problem...they fix it. Toyota stays in my drive way.... -- Scott in Florida |
serious work by 50,000 miles. For a Toyota, that's not even broken in good
yet. I consider an entire front brake/rotor replacement and rear brake
replacement major work. Until 200,000 miles, I had the original rear brakes
on the 93, but that was because mechanics kept misadjusting the rear brakes
to where the handbrake wouldn't stop anything.
Charles of Schaumburg
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Jeff <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote: Unforunately, it lost out on the PC, which it invented. Actually most people recognize the Apple II as the first "PC." IBM simply sold the first mass marketed computer using the 8088 chip. |
would still work.
Actually, there were computers before the Apple II. The Apple I, for
instance. And Altair 8800.
The Apple II archetecture died out with the Apple III and Apple IIe or Apple
IIc. The Mac Line started with the Lisa.
However, the IBM PC architecture still lives on, with virtually all PCs now
(even the Mac Line) using successors the the original achitecture developed
by IBM while I was still in high school.
So I am right in saying IBM invented the PC, as in the 8086 architecture
that was succeeded by AT, 386, 486. Pentium, and successor architectures.
Jeff
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cordially, as always, rm |
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Jeff wrote: I also pointed out that the Corolla is the best selling car (and actually, it is the best selling vehicle of all time, surpassing even the F150 series). The Camry is the best selling car in the U.S. for the past four years, though worldwide the Corolla is the best selling car. Technically the VW Beetle is the best selling car ever, if you don't allow for significant body changes over the life of the car. |
getting Social Security.
The other thing about the Corolla is that the sales may include some
Tercels.
Surprisingly, the oldest car that has the same basic design that is still in
production today is the Peugeot 504. It is produced in Kenya and on other
African country. But it has only been in production for about 40 years,
compared to about 65 for the VW.
Jeff
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However, the number of sales don't show that GM is better than Ford, any more than it shows that Toyota is better than Ford. "Better" is so subjective. Is this based on profitability, most units sold, reliability, safety, or what? |
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No kidding turbo. Where do you come up with this goofy stuff? I was group Sales Manager for ten years. Of course we tried to sell the cars we traded, at retail rather than at wholesale. The selling price of a used car, unlike new car, deprecates every month. After sixty days if they did not sell we sold them to the wholesalers. We certainly would not tie up our capitol keeping or buying used cars, when we needed it to pay for the new cars we stocked. Floor plan costs can kill a dealership that must finance a minimum four or five million dollar inventory every month. Besides if one wants to be get into the used car business he would be a fool to spend millions of dollars to buy a new car dealership, just to sell used cars  mike |
lot. If a dealer gets nothing but Fords in trade, they'll surely auction
some of that useless junk and replace it with other things at the auction.
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"Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:AOGHh.14870$zh.3059 (AT) trnddc08 (DOT) .. "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message news:J--dnez4JdA8r3LYnZ2dnUVZ_smonZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net... Get real new car dealer are not in the used car businesses, that is why one gets a discount on a no trade deal. No new car dealer worth his salt ever buys used cars. A good dealer needs to sell off his trades to free up capital. If a new car dealer does need a certain late used models, he will buy them at his own brands sales, in any event. Where do you learn this goofy stuff anyway? mike "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:9DEHh.8543$Ih.3176 (AT) trnddc02 (DOT) .. "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message news:s72dnTx6N6_Kk3LYnZ2dnUVZ_ruknZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net... Apparently not all Scion owners are pleased with Toyotas 'Box car.' There are lot of them sitting on used car lots and the used car lots of other brand dealers. We hear that Toyota owners buy Toyotas because they believe they will last longer, thus they keep their cars longer, much like one would 'keep' a refrigerator. When one considers how short a time Scions have been on the market, in the US and how few they sell, it seems odd to see so many on used lots already. Curious mike Toyota has the highest buyer loyalty, that is, the highest percent of people who own a brand of vehicle who buy another one. Toyota also had the highest buyer loyalty for midsized SUV (Lexus), Compact Pickup (Tacoma), prestige luxary car (LS 430) and midsize car (Camry). http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/19/Autos/loyalty/index.htm And, just because a Toyota is sitting on a Ford used car lot doesn't mean that the Toyota was traded in for a Ford dealer. Used cars are often bought wholesale and sold to dealers for resale. Jeff "Mark" <bogusmailmark (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1173276006.767933.114560 (AT) q40g2000cwq (DOT) googlegroups.com... Not arguing the similarity between the xB and the Element, but there are three models of Scion (tC owner). Why do you think new car dealers also have used car lots? If they don't want to sell used cars (there is no reason why they have to), they can just sell the cars to other used car dealers (like used car dealers not owned by a dealership) or wholesale them at auctions. They make money selling used cars. http://www.cybersaa.org/newsletter/used.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_dealer_auctions |
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Jeff <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote: Unforunately, it lost out on the PC, which it invented. Actually most people recognize the Apple II as the first "PC." IBM simply sold the first mass marketed computer using the 8088 chip. |
that were for all practical purposes "PCs" before the Apple II, but
they didn't mass market them. Look for information on the IBM
5100.....It was available at least two years before the Apple II.
Ed
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"C. E. White" <cewhite (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> wrote in message news:uiLHh.7582$PL.3100 (AT) newsread4 (DOT) news.pas.earthlink.net... "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:thKHh.1967$3i.887 (AT) trnddc01 (DOT) .. IBM did a great job of reinventing itself. Other companies can, too. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL..... Is your last name Gershner? I can't imagine anyone else would buy that crap. Ed IBM did. It went from a company that based on selling mainframes to being a major company in information technology services. It makes lots of money selling software and services to other companies. |
analyst quit believeing it about 5 years ago.
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When is the last time you heard about mainframes? |
these days.
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Actually, it still sells mainframes and servicers (and makes money at it), but its main product is consulting services to other businesses. Especially software and services related to e-commerce. |
the rpess. Get into the numebrs sometime. And IBM is moving as much of
the actual "work": as they can to India and China.
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Unforunately, it lost out on the PC, which it invented. It still sells high-end workstations, too, but they are for researchers and other power users. |
severs will be next.
Ed
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IBM doesn't call them main frames anymore. They are Series Z Servers these days. Actually, it still sells mainframes and servicers (and makes money at it), but its main product is consulting services to other businesses. Especially software and services related to e-commerce. And it is barely profitable despite all the positive spin reported by the rpess. Get into the numebrs sometime. And IBM is moving as much of the actual "work": as they can to India and China. |
Who is their biggest competitor in the mainframe category these days?
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"C. E. White" <cewhite3 (AT) removemindspring (DOT) com> wrote in message news:45f017a3$1 (AT) kcnews01 (DOT) .. IBM doesn't call them main frames anymore. They are Series Z Servers these days. Actually, it still sells mainframes and servicers (and makes money at it), but its main product is consulting services to other businesses. Especially software and services related to e-commerce. And it is barely profitable despite all the positive spin reported by the rpess. Get into the numebrs sometime. And IBM is moving as much of the actual "work": as they can to India and China. Who is their biggest competitor in the mainframe category these days? |
The other US mainframe companies don't make them anymore, either.
For the vast majority of applications, mainframes have been replaced by
servers and PCs. Big names in servers include Sun and HP. Linux and Solaris
are the biggest OSes, I think. Server farms, like those used by Google and
Yahoo also do what mainframes used to do.
But IBM still sells a few thousand mainframes a year.
Jeff
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Unforunately, it lost out on the PC, which it invented. |
years, depending on your definition of personal computer.
Probably the Apple II and the Commodore PET, April 1977 were the first
machines that could be considered personal computers.
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Jeff wrote: Unforunately, it lost out on the PC, which it invented. Huh? It invented the IBM PC. The personal computer preceded it by 5-10 years, depending on your definition of personal computer. Probably the Apple II and the Commodore PET, April 1977 were the first machines that could be considered personal computers. |
Jeff
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