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Default Re: OT Australian PM calls Dims Wimps! - 04-29-2007 , 05:08 AM







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"ToMh" <tlhumm (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Apr 27, 10:12 am, "Jeff Strickland" <c... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

I want a Dem to stand up and say, (paraphrasing here) enough of this
shit,
let's kick some sand-filled ass and then come home. That's a Dem I
could
stand behind. The Pelosi Dems are just a bunch of crying little kids
running
to mommy because they got a little dirty. Boo hoo. Crybabies.


Bush had an open check and full support for this war for the last 4
years. Why didn't he just kick some ass and then come home? Funny how
Georgie had complete control of this war for 4 years, now it's all
the Democrats fault. How is that surge going? what a F*ckin joke Bush
and his cronies are, and how quick they are to start shifting the
blame, the only thing this administration has proved competent in.




He doesn't have full support, that's the problem. He's been fighting the
whiners from Day One. The French whine, the Chinese whine, the Russians
pitch a fit. These are three key allies on the UN Security Council, and
not one of them has lifted a finger to help. Indeed, they've expended far
more energy NOT helping than in stepping up to the plate to pull their
collective load.


If you realized the force was sent to the wrong country, you'd whine, too.

Actually, all three of those countries did not dispute the WMD claim,
therefore they did not think it was the wrong country. Their beef was that
the action was disproportionate to the offense, AND they had a huge
financial stake in Saddam remaining in power -- consider the oil-for-food
program where they each were going around the sanctions under the guise of
the oil for food, and reaping huge sums of money in the process.





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Default Re: OT Australian PM calls Dims Wimps! - 04-29-2007 , 07:55 AM






"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote

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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Isn't that essentially the same message we got from al Qaeda in the
first place? They said we didn't have the will to carry out a war
against them in particular, or terror in general. Turns out they are
right. With Dems at the helm, we are just a bunch of pussies that do
nothing more than cry when we get sand kicked into our face. It's so
much fun to watch us cry, they keep kicking the sand and we keep doing
nothing.

The Aussies are just repeating what the terrorists said. (I'm not
meaning to denegrate the Aussies at all, I'm just saying they are
repeating that which has already been said.) Given the realities of
time, the prophecies of terrorists have become true.

I want a Dem to stand up and say, (paraphrasing here) enough of this
shit, let's kick some sand-filled ass and then come home. That's a Dem
I could stand behind. The Pelosi Dems are just a bunch of crying
little kids running to mommy because they got a little dirty. Boo hoo.
Crybabies.


You're obviously an expert at military strategy in general, and Iraq in
particular. What would you do differently right now?


I'm not sure what I would do, but what I wouldn't do is tell the
rat-bastard terrorists that I was going to bring my troops home.


Unfortunately, the one thing that will defeat terrorists does not serve a
purpose that is far more important to politicians like President Rove.
Decades of work by police and spooks will unravel terrorists. It's worked
before, and it will continue to work. But, because this type of behind
the scenes "war" isn't exciting (or visible), it doesn't provide
erections for reborn children like Scott. If there are no erections,
attention is lost, along with future votes.

War gives Scott erections.


The ONLY thing that terrorists understand is terror greater than the
terror they inflict.

The problem with that statement is that it demands civilized society
behave in a more brutal manner than the peopel that attack them, and this
is opposite of what civilized society would prefer to behave.

The problem with that is, terrorists will always win because there will be
an element of society that says everybody has a nice streak that we can
exploit to make them better people. I'm from the element of society that
says that if the nice streak turns ugly, you've blown your chance to be
nice, and the only thing left to do is exterminate you.

Terrorists are a zit on the ass of humanity. One does not sit around and
wait for a zit to go away, one squeezes the zit and drains it. On
occasion, the zit will become enflamed, but one does not stop squeezing or
allow it to become an infection.


Two questions:

1) Can you recall any terrorist organizations which have been snuffed out,
and HOW they were snuffed out?

2) If terror should be crushed with more terror, what do you feel is the
purpose of the intelligence agencies?




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Default Re: OT Australian PM calls Dims Wimps! - 04-29-2007 , 07:58 AM



"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote

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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message
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"ToMh" <tlhumm (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Apr 27, 10:12 am, "Jeff Strickland" <c... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

I want a Dem to stand up and say, (paraphrasing here) enough of this
shit,
let's kick some sand-filled ass and then come home. That's a Dem I
could
stand behind. The Pelosi Dems are just a bunch of crying little kids
running
to mommy because they got a little dirty. Boo hoo. Crybabies.


Bush had an open check and full support for this war for the last 4
years. Why didn't he just kick some ass and then come home? Funny how
Georgie had complete control of this war for 4 years, now it's all
the Democrats fault. How is that surge going? what a F*ckin joke Bush
and his cronies are, and how quick they are to start shifting the
blame, the only thing this administration has proved competent in.




He doesn't have full support, that's the problem. He's been fighting the
whiners from Day One. The French whine, the Chinese whine, the Russians
pitch a fit. These are three key allies on the UN Security Council, and
not one of them has lifted a finger to help. Indeed, they've expended
far more energy NOT helping than in stepping up to the plate to pull
their collective load.


If you realized the force was sent to the wrong country, you'd whine,
too.


Actually, all three of those countries did not dispute the WMD claim,
therefore they did not think it was the wrong country. Their beef was that
the action was disproportionate to the offense, AND they had a huge
financial stake in Saddam remaining in power -- consider the oil-for-food
program where they each were going around the sanctions under the guise of
the oil for food, and reaping huge sums of money in the process.

You took an erroneous left turn. I was referring to our relative lack of
presence in Afghanistan. Six weeks after 9/11, the CIA did a nice job of
finding and purchasing locals who would work with us. Then, your president
sent the bulk of our troops to the wrong place. If you've been following the
news from Afghanistan, you would know we had dropped the ball.




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Default Re: OT Australian PM calls Dims Wimps! - 04-29-2007 , 10:55 AM



"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Isn't that essentially the same message we got from al Qaeda in the
first place? They said we didn't have the will to carry out a war
against them in particular, or terror in general. Turns out they are
right. With Dems at the helm, we are just a bunch of pussies that do
nothing more than cry when we get sand kicked into our face. It's so
much fun to watch us cry, they keep kicking the sand and we keep doing
nothing.

The Aussies are just repeating what the terrorists said. (I'm not
meaning to denegrate the Aussies at all, I'm just saying they are
repeating that which has already been said.) Given the realities of
time, the prophecies of terrorists have become true.

I want a Dem to stand up and say, (paraphrasing here) enough of this
shit, let's kick some sand-filled ass and then come home. That's a Dem
I could stand behind. The Pelosi Dems are just a bunch of crying
little kids running to mommy because they got a little dirty. Boo hoo.
Crybabies.


You're obviously an expert at military strategy in general, and Iraq in
particular. What would you do differently right now?


I'm not sure what I would do, but what I wouldn't do is tell the
rat-bastard terrorists that I was going to bring my troops home.


Unfortunately, the one thing that will defeat terrorists does not serve a
purpose that is far more important to politicians like President Rove.
Decades of work by police and spooks will unravel terrorists. It's worked
before, and it will continue to work. But, because this type of behind
the scenes "war" isn't exciting (or visible), it doesn't provide
erections for reborn children like Scott. If there are no erections,
attention is lost, along with future votes.

War gives Scott erections.


The ONLY thing that terrorists understand is terror greater than the
terror they inflict.

The problem with that statement is that it demands civilized society
behave in a more brutal manner than the peopel that attack them, and this
is opposite of what civilized society would prefer to behave.

The problem with that is, terrorists will always win because there will be
an element of society that says everybody has a nice streak that we can
exploit to make them better people. I'm from the element of society that
says that if the nice streak turns ugly, you've blown your chance to be
nice, and the only thing left to do is exterminate you.

Terrorists are a zit on the ass of humanity. One does not sit around and
wait for a zit to go away, one squeezes the zit and drains it. On
occasion, the zit will become enflamed, but one does not stop squeezing or
allow it to become an infection.


I prefer to think of LIEberals and Terrorists as a boil on the buttocks of
the world. What do you do with a boil? You lance it with a hot tool, of
course.

Charles of Schaumburg




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Default Re: OT Australian PM calls Dims Wimps! - 04-29-2007 , 08:28 PM




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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Isn't that essentially the same message we got from al Qaeda in the
first place? They said we didn't have the will to carry out a war
against them in particular, or terror in general. Turns out they are
right. With Dems at the helm, we are just a bunch of pussies that do
nothing more than cry when we get sand kicked into our face. It's so
much fun to watch us cry, they keep kicking the sand and we keep
doing nothing.

The Aussies are just repeating what the terrorists said. (I'm not
meaning to denegrate the Aussies at all, I'm just saying they are
repeating that which has already been said.) Given the realities of
time, the prophecies of terrorists have become true.

I want a Dem to stand up and say, (paraphrasing here) enough of this
shit, let's kick some sand-filled ass and then come home. That's a
Dem I could stand behind. The Pelosi Dems are just a bunch of crying
little kids running to mommy because they got a little dirty. Boo
hoo. Crybabies.


You're obviously an expert at military strategy in general, and Iraq
in particular. What would you do differently right now?


I'm not sure what I would do, but what I wouldn't do is tell the
rat-bastard terrorists that I was going to bring my troops home.


Unfortunately, the one thing that will defeat terrorists does not serve
a purpose that is far more important to politicians like President Rove.
Decades of work by police and spooks will unravel terrorists. It's
worked before, and it will continue to work. But, because this type of
behind the scenes "war" isn't exciting (or visible), it doesn't provide
erections for reborn children like Scott. If there are no erections,
attention is lost, along with future votes.

War gives Scott erections.


The ONLY thing that terrorists understand is terror greater than the
terror they inflict.

The problem with that statement is that it demands civilized society
behave in a more brutal manner than the peopel that attack them, and this
is opposite of what civilized society would prefer to behave.

The problem with that is, terrorists will always win because there will
be an element of society that says everybody has a nice streak that we
can exploit to make them better people. I'm from the element of society
that says that if the nice streak turns ugly, you've blown your chance to
be nice, and the only thing left to do is exterminate you.

Terrorists are a zit on the ass of humanity. One does not sit around and
wait for a zit to go away, one squeezes the zit and drains it. On
occasion, the zit will become enflamed, but one does not stop squeezing
or allow it to become an infection.



Two questions:

1) Can you recall any terrorist organizations which have been snuffed out,
and HOW they were snuffed out?

By having covert ops go in and scrare the living shit out of those rat
bastards. Clearly, terror is a covert op if there ever was one.


Quote:
2) If terror should be crushed with more terror, what do you feel is the
purpose of the intelligence agencies?

To inflict said terror. They are not allowed to engage in covert operations
that look like terror.




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Default Re: OT Australian PM calls Dims Wimps! - 04-29-2007 , 08:29 PM




"n5hsr" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote

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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Isn't that essentially the same message we got from al Qaeda in the
first place? They said we didn't have the will to carry out a war
against them in particular, or terror in general. Turns out they are
right. With Dems at the helm, we are just a bunch of pussies that do
nothing more than cry when we get sand kicked into our face. It's so
much fun to watch us cry, they keep kicking the sand and we keep
doing nothing.

The Aussies are just repeating what the terrorists said. (I'm not
meaning to denegrate the Aussies at all, I'm just saying they are
repeating that which has already been said.) Given the realities of
time, the prophecies of terrorists have become true.

I want a Dem to stand up and say, (paraphrasing here) enough of this
shit, let's kick some sand-filled ass and then come home. That's a
Dem I could stand behind. The Pelosi Dems are just a bunch of crying
little kids running to mommy because they got a little dirty. Boo
hoo. Crybabies.


You're obviously an expert at military strategy in general, and Iraq
in particular. What would you do differently right now?


I'm not sure what I would do, but what I wouldn't do is tell the
rat-bastard terrorists that I was going to bring my troops home.


Unfortunately, the one thing that will defeat terrorists does not serve
a purpose that is far more important to politicians like President Rove.
Decades of work by police and spooks will unravel terrorists. It's
worked before, and it will continue to work. But, because this type of
behind the scenes "war" isn't exciting (or visible), it doesn't provide
erections for reborn children like Scott. If there are no erections,
attention is lost, along with future votes.

War gives Scott erections.


The ONLY thing that terrorists understand is terror greater than the
terror they inflict.

The problem with that statement is that it demands civilized society
behave in a more brutal manner than the peopel that attack them, and this
is opposite of what civilized society would prefer to behave.

The problem with that is, terrorists will always win because there will
be an element of society that says everybody has a nice streak that we
can exploit to make them better people. I'm from the element of society
that says that if the nice streak turns ugly, you've blown your chance to
be nice, and the only thing left to do is exterminate you.

Terrorists are a zit on the ass of humanity. One does not sit around and
wait for a zit to go away, one squeezes the zit and drains it. On
occasion, the zit will become enflamed, but one does not stop squeezing
or allow it to become an infection.



I prefer to think of LIEberals and Terrorists as a boil on the buttocks of
the world. What do you do with a boil? You lance it with a hot tool, of
course.

Boil on the buttocks or zit on the ass is pretty much the same thing. Zit on
the ass takes fewer keystrokes.





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Default Re: OT Australian PM calls Dims Wimps! - 04-29-2007 , 08:34 PM




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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message
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"ToMh" <tlhumm (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Apr 27, 10:12 am, "Jeff Strickland" <c... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

I want a Dem to stand up and say, (paraphrasing here) enough of this
shit,
let's kick some sand-filled ass and then come home. That's a Dem I
could
stand behind. The Pelosi Dems are just a bunch of crying little kids
running
to mommy because they got a little dirty. Boo hoo. Crybabies.


Bush had an open check and full support for this war for the last 4
years. Why didn't he just kick some ass and then come home? Funny how
Georgie had complete control of this war for 4 years, now it's all
the Democrats fault. How is that surge going? what a F*ckin joke Bush
and his cronies are, and how quick they are to start shifting the
blame, the only thing this administration has proved competent in.




He doesn't have full support, that's the problem. He's been fighting
the whiners from Day One. The French whine, the Chinese whine, the
Russians pitch a fit. These are three key allies on the UN Security
Council, and not one of them has lifted a finger to help. Indeed,
they've expended far more energy NOT helping than in stepping up to the
plate to pull their collective load.


If you realized the force was sent to the wrong country, you'd whine,
too.


Actually, all three of those countries did not dispute the WMD claim,
therefore they did not think it was the wrong country. Their beef was
that the action was disproportionate to the offense, AND they had a huge
financial stake in Saddam remaining in power -- consider the oil-for-food
program where they each were going around the sanctions under the guise
of the oil for food, and reaping huge sums of money in the process.


You took an erroneous left turn. I was referring to our relative lack of
presence in Afghanistan. Six weeks after 9/11, the CIA did a nice job of
finding and purchasing locals who would work with us. Then, your president
sent the bulk of our troops to the wrong place. If you've been following
the news from Afghanistan, you would know we had dropped the ball.

What we do/did in Afghanistan and what we do/did in Iraq are separate
issues.

We felt/feel that Afghanistan is a government that can take care of itself,
and we are no longer required to maintain the presence in that country that
is needed in Iraq. OBL is not in Afghanistan, and he is not orchestrating
the events unfolding there. He is in either Pakistan or Iran, where he has
the support of the local tribes. These tribes say, "OBL who?"






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Default Re: OT Australian PM calls Dims Wimps! - 04-30-2007 , 06:43 AM



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On Apr 27, 10:12 am, "Jeff Strickland" <c... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

I want a Dem to stand up and say, (paraphrasing here) enough of this
shit,
let's kick some sand-filled ass and then come home. That's a Dem I
could
stand behind. The Pelosi Dems are just a bunch of crying little kids
running
to mommy because they got a little dirty. Boo hoo. Crybabies.


Bush had an open check and full support for this war for the last 4
years. Why didn't he just kick some ass and then come home? Funny
how
Georgie had complete control of this war for 4 years, now it's all
the Democrats fault. How is that surge going? what a F*ckin joke Bush
and his cronies are, and how quick they are to start shifting the
blame, the only thing this administration has proved competent in.




He doesn't have full support, that's the problem. He's been fighting
the whiners from Day One. The French whine, the Chinese whine, the
Russians pitch a fit. These are three key allies on the UN Security
Council, and not one of them has lifted a finger to help. Indeed,
they've expended far more energy NOT helping than in stepping up to
the plate to pull their collective load.


If you realized the force was sent to the wrong country, you'd whine,
too.


Actually, all three of those countries did not dispute the WMD claim,
therefore they did not think it was the wrong country. Their beef was
that the action was disproportionate to the offense, AND they had a huge
financial stake in Saddam remaining in power -- consider the
oil-for-food program where they each were going around the sanctions
under the guise of the oil for food, and reaping huge sums of money in
the process.


You took an erroneous left turn. I was referring to our relative lack of
presence in Afghanistan. Six weeks after 9/11, the CIA did a nice job of
finding and purchasing locals who would work with us. Then, your
president sent the bulk of our troops to the wrong place. If you've been
following the news from Afghanistan, you would know we had dropped the
ball.


What we do/did in Afghanistan and what we do/did in Iraq are separate
issues.

We felt/feel that Afghanistan is a government that can take care of
itself, and we are no longer required to maintain the presence in that
country that is needed in Iraq. OBL is not in Afghanistan, and he is not
orchestrating the events unfolding there. He is in either Pakistan or
Iran, where he has the support of the local tribes. These tribes say, "OBL
who?"

Oh....I see. You're a funny guy.




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