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Can we assume you do not patronize your local McDonalds? mike |
Joe is a typical idiot Lying Liberal from the Left that thinks if he keeps
saying it, it must be so, irrespective of if it is truthful or not.
He's probably not smart enough to even WORK at a local McDonalds.
And I'm not the only one that's watched the public school system go FLUSH
right down the drain since 1962. My brother is 7 years behind me in school,
and my sister is 6 years behind that. By the time my brother got to high
school he was being taught most things a year AFTER I had learned them. And
my sister was a year behind THAT. And she was a 4.0 Straight A student, and
bored to tears most of the time, like I was. It made my dad mad enough that
I was 1-2 years behind where HE learned stuff in high school, and I was
pretty close to a Straight-A student myself. I know one class I took in
11th grade used the SAME textbook he used in 9th grade for the same class
(different edition, of course.) I know because I found it on our home
library shelf one day, I'd never noticed it before. He had another high
school textbook that I used the very same textbook in a course in my senior
year of college, again different edition, same title.
So Joe, like Cathy, is just trying to cover over the fact that our public
school system is, for the most part, a great train wreck, controlled mostly
by the pointy heads at NEA and school boards that basically find ways to
sweep any parental opposition under the rug and for the most part don't see
that the NEA's theories are about as dumb as a bag of hammers.
Why does he think I put that quote from Pink Floyd at the start of this
thread? Even Pink Floyd knows when the school system is full of it. But
Joe and Cathy can't tell. because they'd then have to admit that their
liberal polices for education were WRONG. Joe couldn't admit he was wrong
if you pumped him full of truth serum. He and Cathy can't admit that the
public school system is being shown up by private schools and charter
schools, either. They think if they keep ignoring the truth that it will go
away.
Charles of Schaumburg.
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 12:44:54 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:O7w1i.2134$R97.1884 (AT) trndny03 (DOT) .. On Sat, 12 May 2007 20:25:21 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message news:d68c43lancehpkd1an3b59fik40eiqa301 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... Proof can be seen at any fast food place. Hell they can't even make change without that fucking computer. . ....and they don't HAVE to memorize the times tables anymore. What louse crap our education system is. Flush the whole damned thing and start over! -- Scott in Florida These things are the fault of the parents. Parents just like you. BULLSHIT! I made SURE my kids read, and knew the multiplication tables, and were able to THINK rather than rely on a machine to think for them! *I* had to make up for what the "Education System" was lacking! Did your kids turn out badly, even with you reinforcing the need to learn? My daughter is a Physical Therapist |
muscle power! With either, I think it's a good career choice - lots of
possibilities available for employment. And being of practical help to
others in the process.
Cathy
and my son is in middle school, doing
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OK. B average. Maybe he'll be a better President then GW... |
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 00:36:59 -0400, Cathy F. wrote: These things are the fault of the parents. Parents just like you. BULLSHIT! I made SURE my kids read, and knew the multiplication tables, and were able to THINK rather than rely on a machine to think for them! *I* had to make up for what the "Education System" was lacking! Excuse me, but I teach my kids (students) to read & we are presently reviewing the mult./div. tables (& doing equivalent fractions) in Math. Yesterday, when reviewing the doubles, I intro-ed them to "x" squared & square roots, just for funsies. The concept is very easy, but it's certainly not in the third gr. curriculum, so they got all excited - big kid stuff (I think it's in the 5th gr. curriculum). And now they 'get' what that one key is, on calculators. ;-) reading: besides decoding & fluency, of course we do literal comprehension. But inferential thinking, compare/contrast, etc. is required, though not all of them are truly ready for it yet. Cathy Sounds like you are conscientious indeed. Very good. |
more...) is in the NYS curriculum. They tell us what to teach, we need to
teach it.
I think the teachers
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Cathy
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 00:38:24 -0400, Cathy F. wrote: When's the last time you sat in a classroom and watched what went on? 10 years ago. A LOT has happened, re: curriculum/standards in the last 10 years. Cathy Around here, it's only gotten more PC, added Gay Studies to First and Second grades, |
and gotten rid of Christmas, although celebrating Ramadan
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their own.
My kids celebrated Christmas - at Christmas, & just learned about Ramadan, &
are about to learn about Hanukkah (not many Jewish kids in my district).
Note: they don't *celebrate* those holidays, but learn about their
existence.
Cathy
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 00:36:59 -0400, Cathy F. wrote: These things are the fault of the parents. Parents just like you. BULLSHIT! I made SURE my kids read, and knew the multiplication tables, and were able to THINK rather than rely on a machine to think for them! *I* had to make up for what the "Education System" was lacking! Excuse me, but I teach my kids (students) to read & we are presently reviewing the mult./div. tables (& doing equivalent fractions) in Math. Yesterday, when reviewing the doubles, I intro-ed them to "x" squared & square roots, just for funsies. The concept is very easy, but it's certainly not in the third gr. curriculum, so they got all excited - big kid stuff (I think it's in the 5th gr. curriculum). And now they 'get' what that one key is, on calculators. ;-) reading: besides decoding & fluency, of course we do literal comprehension. But inferential thinking, compare/contrast, etc. is required, though not all of them are truly ready for it yet. Cathy Sounds like you are conscientious indeed. Very good. I think the teachers where my daughter went to school had trouble with Capitalization, IIRC... |
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 00:29:43 -0400, Cathy F. wrote: "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:iNv1i.2037$vu2.1337 (AT) trndny01 (DOT) .. On Sat, 12 May 2007 17:54:11 -0400, Cathy F. wrote: "Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958DieSpammersDie (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:f24stl.6k.1 (AT) news (DOT) evilcabal.org... "Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote in message news:5Kudncpu77Grudvb4p2dnA (AT) giganews (DOT) com... "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:zEo1i.5342$rT6.739 (AT) trndny08 (DOT) .. On Sat, 12 May 2007 14:38:09 -0400, Cathy F. wrote: Too much time spent teaching PC and not enough on what's *supposed* to be taught! I missed this entence before. Ha! In my bldg., PC lab is once every six days for 45 minutes. Cathy *snip* I think that might have meant "politically correct" Ah... yeah, you're prob. right. Instruction via PCs in schools has been in the news lately - studies re: advantageous or not sort of deal. Therefore my brain automatically assumed... Cathy LOL! YEah, I was referring to Political Correctness! Gald to see that you're probaly not one of them, and have your mind right (to steal from Paul Newman...)in thinking PC was Personal Computer THAT kind of PCteaching is a GOOD thing! Except recent study(ies?) - heard only bits & pieces the other day - are indicating that in some situations at least, no real increase in learning taking place w/PCs in school. Of course, like virtually anything, there are a slew of variables involved, & pros & cons. Cathy That's OK! If studies indicate being PC creates no increase in learning or ability, then let's just drop it totally!! |
so?
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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message news:dOWdnfcEWJDQxdrbnZ2dnUVZ_jmdnZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net... Can we assume you do not patronize your local McDonalds? mike Joe is a typical idiot Lying Liberal from the Left that thinks if he keeps saying it, it must be so, irrespective of if it is truthful or not. He's probably not smart enough to even WORK at a local McDonalds. And I'm not the only one that's watched the public school system go FLUSH right down the drain since 1962. My brother is 7 years behind me in school, and my sister is 6 years behind that. By the time my brother got to high school he was being taught most things a year AFTER I had learned them. And my sister was a year behind THAT. And she was a 4.0 Straight A student, and bored to tears most of the time, like I was. It made my dad mad enough that I was 1-2 years behind where HE learned stuff in high school, and I was pretty close to a Straight-A student myself. I know one class I took in 11th grade used the SAME textbook he used in 9th grade for the same class (different edition, of course.) I know because I found it on our home library shelf one day, I'd never noticed it before. He had another high school textbook that I used the very same textbook in a course in my senior year of college, again different edition, same title. So Joe, like Cathy, is just trying to cover over the fact that our public school system is, for the most part, a great train wreck, controlled mostly by the pointy heads at NEA and school boards that basically find ways to sweep any parental opposition under the rug and for the most part don't see that the NEA's theories are about as dumb as a bag of hammers. Why does he think I put that quote from Pink Floyd at the start of this thread? Even Pink Floyd knows when the school system is full of it. But Joe and Cathy can't tell. because they'd then have to admit that their liberal polices for education were WRONG. Joe couldn't admit he was wrong if you pumped him full of truth serum. He and Cathy can't admit that the public school system is being shown up by private schools and charter schools, either. They think if they keep ignoring the truth that it will go away. Charles of Schaumburg. |
I am quite sure you have never spoken to any of your children's teachers.
You have never sat in any classes. You have never volunteered to do anything
in the schools. You have never been to a school board meeting.
In high school, I had three teachers who would've challenged college
seniors. I made sure that if my son's school had any teachers like this,
he'd take classes with them. If you imagine any sort of liberal curriculum
involved with the biology and physics classes he took, I want to hear what
you imagine, and I want to hear it RIGHT NOW. No more spewing bile. I want
to know what you imagine.
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On Mon, 14 May 2007 03:11:03 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: That's OK! If studies indicate being PC creates no increase in learning or ability, then let's just drop it totally!! What if it has no effect at all on learning? Drop it anyway, because you say so? Why should students be indoctrinated with what a teacher thinks? What if your kid came home and said, "The teacher says that all people with spare bedrooms should open their homes to the homeless."? |
I'd say "That's an interesting idea, but not really practical because
.......". But here, we talk to our kids, instead of slapping them, raping
them, and then stuffing them in a closet.
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 23:06:14 -0400, Cathy F. wrote: "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:8eQ1i.1645$CQ4.1522 (AT) trndny06 (DOT) .. On Sun, 13 May 2007 00:38:24 -0400, Cathy F. wrote: When's the last time you sat in a classroom and watched what went on? 10 years ago. A LOT has happened, re: curriculum/standards in the last 10 years. Cathy Around here, it's only gotten more PC, added Gay Studies to First and Second grades, This I can't even begin to believe. It's true. Attleboro, I think was a 'celebrated' case. 1st grade kid came home with a 'reading bag' with classics like "Daddy's Friend" and "Heather Has Two Mommies". Dad went to the school to complain and have his kid 'opted-out' of the 'program' and wanted a notification as to when these materials were being taught, the Principal refused and had the father arrested! |
you, but I won't dispute it) case?
Cathy
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"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:7%82i.6255$4a1.4196 (AT) trndny07 (DOT) .. On Sun, 13 May 2007 23:06:14 -0400, Cathy F. wrote: "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:8eQ1i.1645$CQ4.1522 (AT) trndny06 (DOT) .. On Sun, 13 May 2007 00:38:24 -0400, Cathy F. wrote: When's the last time you sat in a classroom and watched what went on? 10 years ago. A LOT has happened, re: curriculum/standards in the last 10 years. Cathy Around here, it's only gotten more PC, added Gay Studies to First and Second grades, This I can't even begin to believe. It's true. Attleboro, I think was a 'celebrated' case. 1st grade kid came home with a 'reading bag' with classics like "Daddy's Friend" and "Heather Has Two Mommies". Dad went to the school to complain and have his kid 'opted-out' of the 'program' and wanted a notification as to when these materials were being taught, the Principal refused and had the father arrested! So, you're assuming this is done all over the place because of one known (to you, but I won't dispute it) case? Cathy |
Cathy, a lot of schools don't even touch briefly on statistics in their math
courses. So for Hach, a sample of one probably sounds statistically
relevant. For Charles, a sample of zero is huge.
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