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Default OT Are Cell Phones the blame? - 04-15-2007 , 09:28 AM






http://news.independent.co.uk/enviro...cle2449968.ece

I'd be happy to give mine up.....would you?

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Default Re: OT Are Cell Phones the blame? - 04-15-2007 , 10:18 AM







"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote

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http://news.independent.co.uk/enviro...cle2449968.ece

I'd be happy to give mine up.....would you?
Yes, & no.

I am alarmed about the bee situation. OTOPH... is this the problem?

OTOH... it may well pose other risks/problems, if not this one of which we
are not yet aware. (Other than the listening-to-others' loud conversations
nuisance factor!).

OTOH.... I use my cell phone but seldom.

1) I use it to call parents & make doctor & dentist appts. from work.
(There's no outside line in the classrooms, & finding one of the few ones in
the building *when* one also happens to be free because the kids are in
Music or it's lunch can a PITA. Besides others using the phones, have to
cart one's stuff - slips of paper with nec. ph. no., planbook, gradebook,
etc. with you looking for a free phone.)

2) I use it for the very occasional long distance call to people not on my
free calls list on my land line. (E-mail has taken over long distance
calling, for the most part.)

3) And I use it when on the road when I'm running late - prob. averages out
to once - twice/year, but is then useful. Yesterday I ran into tied-up
traffic due to an accident & was definitely going to be late getting down to
my parents'. I had to be there at 'x' time, & it wasn't happening... was
going to be about half an hour late. By calling them, my mother could plan
around my tardiness & make alternate plans for until I got there. (Not to
mention, not worry that *I'd* been in an accident.)

IOW, I'm not contributing greatly to any fallout from cell phone use, yet I
do use one. Occasionally.

People who walk arounsd w/one glued to their ear... that I don't get.

Cathy

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Default Re: OT Are Cell Phones the blame? - 04-15-2007 , 10:31 AM



Scott in Florida, 4/15/2007,9:28:24 AM, wrote:

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http://news.independent.co.uk/enviro...cle2449968.ece

I'd be happy to give mine up.....would you?
You know by now what I think of cell phones. I wonder if th "global
warming environmentalist" crowd would be willing to give up their
phones if this was proven to be true. Let's see if they are going to
give up their convenience or just demand others give up theirs.

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Default Re: OT Are Cell Phones the blame? - 04-15-2007 , 10:37 AM



On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 08:56:43 -0500, "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com>
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In article <q1a423dnst87a4vf5h09tfeu2i7rj36og6 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
Scott in Florida <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote:

http://news.independent.co.uk/enviro...cle2449968.ece

I'd be happy to give mine up.....would you?

Sure. I think cell phones are way over used. That can be corrected by
the cell phone companies charging per minute instead of have plans which
give users 5000 (or what ever) minutes a month for xx dollars. Even
though people don't need all that time they use it anyway for silly
phone calls.

Charge by the minute, say .10/minute and I guarantee the cell phone
usage would drop dramatically and save the bees.
My cell phone is a pay as you go....minute by minute...

That is a great way to keep your b/sing down.

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Default Re: OT Are Cell Phones the blame? - 04-15-2007 , 11:15 AM




"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Scott in Florida, 4/15/2007,9:28:24 AM, wrote:

http://news.independent.co.uk/enviro...cle2449968.ece

I'd be happy to give mine up.....would you?

You know by now what I think of cell phones. I wonder if th "global
warming environmentalist" crowd would be willing to give up their
phones if this was proven to be true. Let's see if they are going to
give up their convenience or just demand others give up theirs.
As indicated in my previous post, how about *way less* usage of them opposed
to no usage? (That's given they present a problem... which they might well.
In general, this sort of thing has been in the news for years - re: possible
medical probs for people using them.)

As a sort of analogy (which is actually on topic): Does anyone expect people
to stop driving cars, for ex? Nope. But we do expect much more fuel
efficient/lower emissions cars to be built. A better analogy would probably
be: use of available public transit & car pooling when feasible. IOW, less
usage as opposed to no usage.

Cathy





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Default Re: OT Are Cell Phones the blame? - 04-15-2007 , 11:18 AM




"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote

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On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 08:56:43 -0500, "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com
wrote:

In article <q1a423dnst87a4vf5h09tfeu2i7rj36og6 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
Scott in Florida <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote:

http://news.independent.co.uk/enviro...cle2449968.ece

I'd be happy to give mine up.....would you?

Sure. I think cell phones are way over used. That can be corrected by
the cell phone companies charging per minute instead of have plans which
give users 5000 (or what ever) minutes a month for xx dollars. Even
though people don't need all that time they use it anyway for silly
phone calls.

Charge by the minute, say .10/minute and I guarantee the cell phone
usage would drop dramatically and save the bees.

My cell phone is a pay as you go....minute by minute...
As is mine, & at this point I have over 27 hours racked up from rolled-over
minutes. Wish I could get an even cheaper pre-paid plan (like $5./month!)
or else get a cash rebate on most of the unused minutes...

Cathy

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That is a great way to keep your b/sing down.

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Default Re: OT Are Cell Phones the blame? - 04-15-2007 , 11:22 AM




"Ph@Boy" <user (AT) example (DOT) net> wrote

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Scott in Florida wrote:
http://news.independent.co.uk/enviro...cle2449968.ece

I'd be happy to give mine up.....would you?

That was an interesting article Scott. A long time ago, I used to raise
bees, and harvest their honey. It's alot of work and the bees are very
sensitive to outside disturbances. Hives must be moved at night when all
of the members of that hive are in it, if done during daylight you will
loose all the bees out of the hive at that time because they use the sun's
position for navigation to and from chosen points, most importantly, back
to the hive. Even if you move it only a few feet. In winter months you
must feed them a mix of powdered sugar and penicillin to help ward off any
disease that they may contract. Each hive has a different personality
derived from the queen, and you learn how far you can go with each. Wax
moths are their nemesis, destroying young bee larvae and chewing tunnels
and holes throughout the entire hive. The wax moth larvae can live in the
hives for a very long time and you have to first, relocate whats left of
the entire hive, disassemble each hive and it's components and literally
use a metal pick to remove wax moth larvae. Cleaning out an infestation is
a really a bad job. Maybe it is, but I would be skeptical that cell phone
usage is a problem since they are so sensitive to other biological forces
that I have experienced first hand. IMHO.
The other thing is... is this (the bee problem, to this extent) being found
world-wide, or just in the United States? I merely skimmed through it, but
for ex., the article said that although the numbers have decreased, that the
U.K. isn't seeing the same immediate/pronounced problem that is occurring in
the U.S.

Cathy




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Default Re: OT Are Cell Phones the blame? - 04-15-2007 , 11:49 AM



On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:18:01 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadot (DOT) net>
wrote:

Quote:
"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:d3e423tf7mjri6rrbtsj51b6gv956sj5cm (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 08:56:43 -0500, "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com
wrote:

In article <q1a423dnst87a4vf5h09tfeu2i7rj36og6 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
Scott in Florida <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote:

http://news.independent.co.uk/enviro...cle2449968.ece

I'd be happy to give mine up.....would you?

Sure. I think cell phones are way over used. That can be corrected by
the cell phone companies charging per minute instead of have plans which
give users 5000 (or what ever) minutes a month for xx dollars. Even
though people don't need all that time they use it anyway for silly
phone calls.

Charge by the minute, say .10/minute and I guarantee the cell phone
usage would drop dramatically and save the bees.

My cell phone is a pay as you go....minute by minute...

As is mine, & at this point I have over 27 hours racked up from rolled-over
minutes. Wish I could get an even cheaper pre-paid plan (like $5./month!)
or else get a cash rebate on most of the unused minutes...

Cathy
Look at ATT/Cingular.

Two plans.

One you spend a buck any day you use it plus 10 cents a minute and
all calls to other ATT customers are free.

The second one is purely by the minute.

I use the first, because my Air Force son is on it.

The only gotcha?

Minutes expire if you don't refill by a certain time after you buy
them.

25 bucks lasts 3 months I think.

100 lasts a year. That is what I do. Reload with a hunsky when it
gets down.


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That is a great way to keep your b/sing down.

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Default Re: OT Are Cell Phones the blame? - 04-15-2007 , 11:52 AM



On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:15:35 -0400, "Ph@Boy" <user (AT) example (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:
Scott in Florida wrote:
http://news.independent.co.uk/enviro...cle2449968.ece

I'd be happy to give mine up.....would you?

That was an interesting article Scott. A long time ago, I used to raise
bees, and harvest their honey. It's alot of work and the bees are very
sensitive to outside disturbances. Hives must be moved at night when all
of the members of that hive are in it, if done during daylight you will
loose all the bees out of the hive at that time because they use the
sun's position for navigation to and from chosen points, most
importantly, back to the hive. Even if you move it only a few feet. In
winter months you must feed them a mix of powdered sugar and penicillin
to help ward off any disease that they may contract. Each hive has a
different personality derived from the queen, and you learn how far you
can go with each. Wax moths are their nemesis, destroying young bee
larvae and chewing tunnels and holes throughout the entire hive. The wax
moth larvae can live in the hives for a very long time and you have to
first, relocate whats left of the entire hive, disassemble each hive and
it's components and literally use a metal pick to remove wax moth
larvae. Cleaning out an infestation is a really a bad job. Maybe it is,
but I would be skeptical that cell phone usage is a problem since they
are so sensitive to other biological forces that I have experienced
first hand. IMHO.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing....

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Default Re: OT Are Cell Phones the blame? - 04-15-2007 , 12:17 PM




"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 08:56:43 -0500, "dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com
wrote:

In article <q1a423dnst87a4vf5h09tfeu2i7rj36og6 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
Scott in Florida <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote:

http://news.independent.co.uk/enviro...cle2449968.ece

I'd be happy to give mine up.....would you?

Sure. I think cell phones are way over used. That can be corrected by
the cell phone companies charging per minute instead of have plans which
give users 5000 (or what ever) minutes a month for xx dollars. Even
though people don't need all that time they use it anyway for silly
phone calls.

Charge by the minute, say .10/minute and I guarantee the cell phone
usage would drop dramatically and save the bees.

My cell phone is a pay as you go....minute by minute...

That is a great way to keep your b/sing down.


I keep my b/sing down all by myself. I call it self control.

My plan allows unlimited -- that's calling without any limits -- to any
other cell phone that is also served by my provider. I think I rack up about
100 minutes per month, maybe less.




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