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{OT} Gas prices up 66 percent since Jan
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Re: {OT} Gas prices up 66 percent since Jan -
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"Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote in message news:UE9Zh.566$IJ3.106 (AT) trnddc07 (DOT) .. "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:so9Zh.7518$B25.5256 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny... "Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote in message news:Qg9Zh.562$IJ3.479 (AT) trnddc07 (DOT) .. In much of the country, there is no mass transportation, and never will be. And, many jobs require the use of a vehicle. A small minority of jobs do require vehicles but there is no reason a profitable company cannot pay for that. As for their not being mass transportation. A majority of the country lives in the inner city where there is mass transportation. Even in Logan Utah there is a bus system. Also, if they didnt yet have bus systems they would be forced to get them. Think of huge areas of the country where homes are few & far apart... |
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Cathy Our addiction to gasoline and low gasoline prices is nothing more than convenience. We love to drive and toot our vehicle all over the place. |
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"Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote in message news  NqdnbK5WZK9tajb4p2dnA (AT) giganews (DOT) com...... Think of huge areas of the country where homes are few & far apart... Think of the huge areas of the country where you can buy Toyota Priuses. They need to learn how to conserve, fuel, too. And if the price of fuel is too much, they can move to a more populated area. Unforunately, the reality is that the price of energy is going up. I think it will continue to go up, as more and more areas of the world become developed, like China, India, and, I hope, Africa. Energy is a limited resource. Jeff |
Living in a rural area is not an excuse for hogging!
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The highest tax rate by any state is NY, at 33.55c per gallon. The lowest is Alaska, at 8c per gallon. (Some of the state taxes are sales taxes, so they go up with the price of gas.) |
enough to have to pay a damned toll just to cross that state....
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"Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote in message news NqdnbK5WZK9tajb4p2dnA (AT) giganews (DOT) com..."Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote in message news:UE9Zh.566$IJ3.106 (AT) trnddc07 (DOT) .. "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:so9Zh.7518$B25.5256 (AT) news01 (DOT) roc.ny... "Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote in message news:Qg9Zh.562$IJ3.479 (AT) trnddc07 (DOT) .. In much of the country, there is no mass transportation, and never will be. And, many jobs require the use of a vehicle. A small minority of jobs do require vehicles but there is no reason a profitable company cannot pay for that. As for their not being mass transportation. A majority of the country lives in the inner city where there is mass transportation. Even in Logan Utah there is a bus system. Also, if they didnt yet have bus systems they would be forced to get them. Think of huge areas of the country where homes are few & far apart... They would be forced to conserve |
don't routinely make side trips for a loaf of bread or some ice cream on a
whim; they already consolidate their shopping trips & errands, and often
consolidate those in turn with their work commute.
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or move to the inner city... |
think. so. If they wanted to live in an urban area, they'd already be
there.
Sure, there needs to be a general move toward conservation of the finite
resources, but in this case you're barking up the wrong tree - it's not a
simple one-size-fits-all deal. Various solutions will fit various
conditions.
Cathy
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:05:50 GMT, "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote: The highest tax rate by any state is NY, at 33.55c per gallon. The lowest is Alaska, at 8c per gallon. (Some of the state taxes are sales taxes, so they go up with the price of gas.) I make it a point to drive thru NY without filling up. |
It is bad
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enough to have to pay a damned toll just to cross that state.... |
cost of the construction. Hah.
Cathy
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"Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote in message news NqdnbK5WZK9tajb4p2dnA (AT) giganews (DOT) com...... Think of huge areas of the country where homes are few & far apart... Think of the huge areas of the country where you can buy Toyota Priuses. |
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They need to learn how to conserve, fuel, too. And if the price of fuel is too much, they can move to a more populated area. |
the Adirondacks, for example - no way, no how are you going to persuade them
to move into a big city which has mass transit. They're up there for the
quality of life/the serenity their surroundings provide. Although many
towns are along state roads, there are parts of the Adirondacks which are so
remote that there's no way there could be adequate bus service. I know of
places where kids need to be brought to their school bus stops by their
parents via snowmobiles in the winter - the buses can't safely get to their
homes.
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Unforunately, the reality is that the price of energy is going up. I think it will continue to go up, as more and more areas of the world become developed, like China, India, and, I hope, Africa. Energy is a limited resource. |
$3.00/gallon here again), in the long run perhapss the higher costs will be
the wake-up calls that finally actually wake people up - for the auto
industry, for alternative energy sources...
Cathy
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Jeff Cathy ... |
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Because of the distances/times involved, people who live out in the boonies don't routinely make side trips for a loaf of bread or some ice cream on a whim; they already consolidate their shopping trips & errands, and often consolidate those in turn with their work commute. |
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or move to the inner city... Right... *forced* to trade the wide open spaces for city living. I. don't. think. so. If they wanted to live in an urban area, they'd already be there. |
transportation or fuel.
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Sure, there needs to be a general move toward conservation of the finite resources, but in this case you're barking up the wrong tree - it's not a simple one-size-fits-all deal. Various solutions will fit various conditions. |
adjusted for inflation is in line with historical prices. What is out of
line is the price of gas in the late 90s and early 00s. Those gas prices
were rather low compared to the other prices.
If they want to use fuel, they are going to have to pay for it.
And, if they get sick with a chronic illness and need to visit the doctor
every week for a few years, as happens from time to time, then they are in
big trouble.
And, the farmers who grow our food are particularly hurt, because they tend
to live in the country (the farm land that was in NYC is now used for other
things) and bring their food into the city or whatever. And so are poor
people who have to travel from job to job.
It's sad, but I don't have the funds to support them.
Jeff
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Cathy Cathy Our addiction to gasoline and low gasoline prices is nothing more than convenience. We love to drive and toot our vehicle all over the place. |
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Because of the distances/times involved, people who live out in the boonies don't routinely make side trips for a loaf of bread or some ice cream on a whim; they already consolidate their shopping trips & errands, and often consolidate those in turn with their work commute. |
then youre going to have to pay more in energy needs but the price is
probablly offset in cheaper living.
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or move to the inner city... Right... *forced* to trade the wide open spaces for city living. I. don't. think. so. If they wanted to live in an urban area, they'd already be there. |
spaces. They better get use to the fact that times are changing and they
arent any better than the person in the inner city.
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Sure, there needs to be a general move toward conservation of the finite resources, but in this case you're barking up the wrong tree - it's not a simple one-size-fits-all deal. Various solutions will fit various conditions. Cathy Cathy Our addiction to gasoline and low gasoline prices is nothing more than convenience. We love to drive and toot our vehicle all over the place. |
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:59:06 +0000, Go Mavs wrote: "n5hsr" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:asednWXSOp-Yv6jbnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:b69Zh.1158$KP1.332 (AT) trnddc02 (DOT) .. "Go Mavs" <GoMavz (AT) GoMavz (DOT) com> wrote in message news  %8Zh.3179$2V1.1677 (AT) trnddc08 (DOT) .."n5hsr" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:nP2dnVZID738eqnbnZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... But crude oil has not gone up 66 percent since January. So someone's making insane profits at 3 dollars a gallon. -- Charles of Schaumburg Gas prices always sky rocket in the summer... and yeah, ofcourse companies are making insane profits.. they should be allowed to adjust gas to supply and demand like any other company.. In fact I wouldnt mind if gas prices went up to 5 dollars a gallon! You call these profits "insane." Just what kind of profits do you think oil companies should be allowed to make? How do you figure this out? How should their profits be compared to companies like utilities, which often have their rates regulated by the government? Of course, I am not enjoying my profit from my shares of ExxonMobil at this time. Jeff OK, I presume they were making it ok when gas was 2 dollars a gallon and crude was where it was. So you own a piece of the heritage of Johnny Rockefeller, eh? Gas distributors fix the price at which their retail outlets may sell for the most part, and this has been true since at least 1991 and probably a lot longer. Example: The day BEFORE Saddam Hussein attacked Kuwait in 1990, all the gasoline retail outlets in the area of Arkansas I was living in, who were, at that time, selling for 86.9 were told that they HAD TO raise their price to 99.9 immediately or they would not receive ANY more shipments by their distributor. I do not buy Exxon/Mobil specifically because it seems to be the leader of what used to be called The 7 Sisters and heir to Johnny Rockefeller's Standard Oil. They are usually the first ones to go up. I do not buy Citgo because Chavez says our money is evil so he can surely do without mine. I do not buy Royal Dutch Shell anymore since I found they help put Hitler in power in 1933-34. Besides that, I've never had a car that liked it. Any car I've tried any grade of Shell in bucked like an old Model T on Wild Bob. Now who knows what Wild Bob is besides me? Charles of Schaumburg You have to ask a question of what is or isnt price gouging. Gas prices of 86 cents a gallon are as gone as the days when a bottle of coke was 25 cents. Inflation has rissen and despite record profits these gas companies are still pumping money back into several departments. It isnt a net profit gain. Huh? Profit is profit. It's what remains after expenses. "Pumping money into departments" is a COGS, and comes out before profits are posted. So, once again, E-M made a PROFIT of $40B. After *all* expenses were met. |
what is an appropriate profit margin?
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With that said, oil is not a infinite source. Even if they lowered it to 86 cents again (with 6 billion people on the earth) it would not last long. Higher gas prices are beneficial to oil conservation... Not to mention oil companies... |
called stock.
Jeff
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"Cathy F." <clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote in message news:qvednTKgxPaEpKjb4p2dnA (AT) giganews (DOT) com... Because of the distances/times involved, people who live out in the boonies don't routinely make side trips for a loaf of bread or some ice cream on a whim; they already consolidate their shopping trips & errands, and often consolidate those in turn with their work commute. Well there is a price for a way of living. If you live out in the boonies then youre going to have to pay more in energy needs but the price is probablly offset in cheaper living. |
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or move to the inner city... Right... *forced* to trade the wide open spaces for city living. I. don't. think. so. If they wanted to live in an urban area, they'd already be there. Too bad! Life isnt fair. Not everyone can afford to live in wide open spaces. They better get use to the fact that times are changing and they arent any better than the person in the inner city. |
Cathy
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| Sure, there needs to be a general move toward conservation of the finite resources, but in this case you're barking up the wrong tree - it's not a simple one-size-fits-all deal. Various solutions will fit various conditions. Cathy Cathy Our addiction to gasoline and low gasoline prices is nothing more than convenience. We love to drive and toot our vehicle all over the place. |
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