{OT} Gas prices up 66 percent since Jan

#31

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote

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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:35:18 -0400, Cathy F. wrote:

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:05:50 GMT, "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote:

The highest tax rate by any state is NY, at 33.55c per gallon. The
lowest is
Alaska, at 8c per gallon. (Some of the state taxes are sales taxes, so
they
go up with the price of gas.)

I make it a point to drive thru NY without filling up.

Going from what point to what point?

It is bad
enough to have to pay a damned toll just to cross that state....

The Thruway was *supposed* to be free once the initial tolls paid for the
cost of the construction. Hah.

Cathy

Yeah...same here in MA.

Yeah, from here to Boston it's all toll roads - the entire way. Well,
except for the first 3 - 4 miles. OTOH, certainly easy driving - until one
hits Boston itself, that is!

Cathy

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#32

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote

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But crude oil has not gone up 66 percent since January.

So someone's making insane profits at 3 dollars a gallon.

--
Charles of Schaumburg

Gas prices always sky rocket in the summer... and yeah, ofcourse
companies are making insane profits.. they should be allowed to adjust
gas to supply and demand like any other company.. In fact I wouldnt
mind if gas prices went up to 5 dollars a gallon!

You call these profits "insane." Just what kind of profits do you think
oil companies should be allowed to make? How do you figure this out?

How should their profits be compared to companies like utilities, which
often have their rates regulated by the government?

Of course, I am not enjoying my profit from my shares of ExxonMobil at
this time.

Jeff

OK, I presume they were making it ok when gas was 2 dollars a gallon and
crude was where it was.

So you own a piece of the heritage of Johnny Rockefeller, eh?

Gas distributors fix the price at which their retail outlets may sell
for the most part, and this has been true since at least 1991 and
probably a lot longer.

Example: The day BEFORE Saddam Hussein attacked Kuwait in 1990, all the
gasoline retail outlets in the area of Arkansas I was living in, who
were, at that time, selling for 86.9 were told that they HAD TO raise
their price to 99.9 immediately or they would not receive ANY more
shipments by their distributor.

I do not buy Exxon/Mobil specifically because it seems to be the leader
of what used to be called The 7 Sisters and heir to Johnny Rockefeller's
Standard Oil. They are usually the first ones to go up.

I do not buy Citgo because Chavez says our money is evil so he can
surely do without mine.

I do not buy Royal Dutch Shell anymore since I found they help put
Hitler in power in 1933-34. Besides that, I've never had a car that
liked it. Any car I've tried any grade of Shell in bucked like an old
Model T on Wild Bob.

Now who knows what Wild Bob is besides me?

Charles of Schaumburg

You have to ask a question of what is or isnt price gouging. Gas prices
of
86 cents a gallon are as gone as the days when a bottle of coke was 25
cents. Inflation has rissen and despite record profits these gas
companies
are still pumping money back into several departments. It isnt a net
profit gain.

Huh? Profit is profit. It's what remains after expenses. "Pumping money
into departments" is a COGS, and comes out before profits are posted.

OK, is some liberal going to tell me that the gas they'd already purchased
in 1990 suddenly went up in price? This call to raise prices to the
distributors was not part of a delivery. They were simply told to raise the
price on the gas they already had to 99.9 or they wouldn't get anymore.
That looks like 13 cents of gross profit to me. Probably minus a penny for
sales tax. It's all bull.

Charles of Schaumburg

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So, once again, E-M made a PROFIT of $40B. After *all* expenses were met.

With that said, oil is not a infinite source. Even if they lowered it to
86 cents again (with 6 billion people on the earth) it would not last
long.

Higher gas prices are beneficial to oil conservation...

Not to mention oil companies...

#33

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote

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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:43:46 -0400, Mike Hunter wrote:

You are correct. The entity that makes the most off of every gallon of
gasoline YOU buy is YOUR state, at an average of 34c, way more than
anybody else! Number two is the feds at 18.5c. The oil companies around
10c and the station operator around 7c. For the station operator that is
2c more than they earned when the price was 23c a gallon, in the late
fifties.. Station operators will tell you many times, when they get a
tank
truck load of fuel, it costs them more than the GROSS price at which the
sold the previous tank load.

mike

Taxes haven't gone up on Gasoline in my state for a LONG time.

"n5hsr" <n5hsr (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message
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But crude oil has not gone up 66 percent since January.

So someone's making insane profits at 3 dollars a gallon.

--
Charles of Schaumburg

One tax that has gone up: Sales tax. That's usually a percent of the
price, so if the price goes up 66% the state gets 66% more tax even if the
rate stays the same.

We have federal gas tax, state gas tax and state sales tax on our gas here
as in most states.

Charles of Schaumburg

#34

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:35:18 -0400, "Cathy F."
<clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote:

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"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:05:50 GMT, "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote:

The highest tax rate by any state is NY, at 33.55c per gallon. The lowest
is
Alaska, at 8c per gallon. (Some of the state taxes are sales taxes, so
they
go up with the price of gas.)

I make it a point to drive thru NY without filling up.

Going from what point to what point?

I take 84 across to 684 while coming north.

Quote:

It is bad
enough to have to pay a damned toll just to cross that state....

The Thruway was *supposed* to be free once the initial tolls paid for the
cost of the construction. Hah.

Cathy

--

Scott in Florida

#35

Seems a lot of folks "hit" in Boston. Mass has some of the highest
insurance rate in the county LOL

mike

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote

Quote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:38:17 -0400, Cathy F. wrote:

Yeah, from here to Boston it's all toll roads - the entire way. Well,
except for the first 3 - 4 miles. OTOH, certainly easy driving - until
one
hits Boston itself, that is!

Cathy

From the Sunday Globe, about 20 years ago: "Stare Straight Ahead And Gun
It!"

#36

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote

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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:35:18 -0400, "Cathy F."
clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote:

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:05:50 GMT, "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote:

The highest tax rate by any state is NY, at 33.55c per gallon. The
lowest
is
Alaska, at 8c per gallon. (Some of the state taxes are sales taxes, so
they
go up with the price of gas.)

I make it a point to drive thru NY without filling up.

Going from what point to what point?

I take 84 across to 684 while coming north.

Oh, way downstate in the narrow section; as long as one even semi plans
ahead, that should pretty much be a piece of cake to do with no fill-ups
w/in NYS.

Cathy

Quote:

It is bad
enough to have to pay a damned toll just to cross that state....

The Thruway was *supposed* to be free once the initial tolls paid for the
cost of the construction. Hah.

Cathy

--

Scott in Florida

#37

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:37:47 -0400, "Cathy F."
<clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote:

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"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:35:18 -0400, "Cathy F."
clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote:

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:05:50 GMT, "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote:

The highest tax rate by any state is NY, at 33.55c per gallon. The
lowest
is
Alaska, at 8c per gallon. (Some of the state taxes are sales taxes, so
they
go up with the price of gas.)

I make it a point to drive thru NY without filling up.

Going from what point to what point?

I take 84 across to 684 while coming north.

Oh, way downstate in the narrow section; as long as one even semi plans
ahead, that should pretty much be a piece of cake to do with no fill-ups
w/in NYS.

Cathy

Actually the real reason I don't buy in NY is a couple of times I
drove thru lower NYS late at night and could NOT find a gas station
on the Interstate.

From then on, I choose not to do business in NY.....

--

Scott in Florida

#38

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:37:47 -0400, "Cathy F."
clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote:

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:35:18 -0400, "Cathy F."
clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote:

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:05:50 GMT, "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote:

The highest tax rate by any state is NY, at 33.55c per gallon. The
lowest
is
Alaska, at 8c per gallon. (Some of the state taxes are sales taxes, so
they
go up with the price of gas.)

I make it a point to drive thru NY without filling up.

Going from what point to what point?

I take 84 across to 684 while coming north.

Oh, way downstate in the narrow section; as long as one even semi plans
ahead, that should pretty much be a piece of cake to do with no fill-ups
w/in NYS.

Cathy

Actually the real reason I don't buy in NY is a couple of times I
drove thru lower NYS late at night and could NOT find a gas station
on the Interstate.

From then on, I choose not to do business in NY.....
Scott in Florida

Here in NY, we assume that people know how to read a map and know which
towns look a little bigger than others. If idiots from Florida get stranded
on the road, it's their own fault. Too much inbreeding.

#39

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:07:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
<dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:37:47 -0400, "Cathy F."
clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote:

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:35:18 -0400, "Cathy F."
clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote:

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:05:50 GMT, "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote:

The highest tax rate by any state is NY, at 33.55c per gallon. The
lowest
is
Alaska, at 8c per gallon. (Some of the state taxes are sales taxes, so
they
go up with the price of gas.)

I make it a point to drive thru NY without filling up.

Going from what point to what point?

I take 84 across to 684 while coming north.

Oh, way downstate in the narrow section; as long as one even semi plans
ahead, that should pretty much be a piece of cake to do with no fill-ups
w/in NYS.

Cathy

Actually the real reason I don't buy in NY is a couple of times I
drove thru lower NYS late at night and could NOT find a gas station
on the Interstate.

From then on, I choose not to do business in NY.....
Scott in Florida

Here in NY, we assume that people know how to read a map and know which
towns look a little bigger than others. If idiots from Florida get stranded
on the road, it's their own fault. Too much inbreeding.

NO OTHER STATE BETWEEN FLORIDA AND MAINE HAS THE PROBLEM.....

That makes it a NY problem.....

--

Scott in Florida

#40

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:07:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:37:47 -0400, "Cathy F."
clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote:

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:t0nb33hr1pqcft9lg180coqn8pis01747n (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:35:18 -0400, "Cathy F."
clfr (AT) adelphiadotdedot (DOT) net> wrote:

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:aida335p5uifb7qaqdg2vsqg0v69ogo3kt (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:05:50 GMT, "Jeff" <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com
wrote:

The highest tax rate by any state is NY, at 33.55c per gallon. The
lowest
is
Alaska, at 8c per gallon. (Some of the state taxes are sales taxes,
so
they
go up with the price of gas.)

I make it a point to drive thru NY without filling up.

Going from what point to what point?

I take 84 across to 684 while coming north.

Oh, way downstate in the narrow section; as long as one even semi plans
ahead, that should pretty much be a piece of cake to do with no fill-ups
w/in NYS.

Cathy

Actually the real reason I don't buy in NY is a couple of times I
drove thru lower NYS late at night and could NOT find a gas station
on the Interstate.

From then on, I choose not to do business in NY.....
Scott in Florida

Here in NY, we assume that people know how to read a map and know which
towns look a little bigger than others. If idiots from Florida get
stranded
on the road, it's their own fault. Too much inbreeding.

NO OTHER STATE BETWEEN FLORIDA AND MAINE HAS THE PROBLEM.....

That makes it a NY problem.....
Scott in Florida

What highway was this?

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